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jjackkrash
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I'm curious who thinks they know what actually happened to this day. Didn't this event involve a spook den? As soon as I saw that a CIA safe house or operational facility was at the center of this I assumed any public information about the event would be a load of bullshit to cover for something else, whatever that something else might be. Shit, information exposing the "cover up" is, likely, itself part of a cover for something else.

http://thelead.blogs.cnn.com/...enghazi-attack/

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Bismark
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Aragorn wrote:
Bismark wrote:
Aragorn wrote:

I want accountability. The only US Ambassador to ever be killed, the highest official voice in foreign countries. And they didnt even fucking try to stop it.


Ambassadors killed in the line of duty.

--Adolph Dubs, in Afghanistan, 1979 (murdered by Settam-e-Melli, an Afghani terrorist organization)
--Francis E. Meloy Jr., in Lebanon, 1976 (kidnapped by Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine members and later found murdered)
--Rodger P. Davies, in Cyprus, 1974 (murdered by Greek Cypriot gunmen)
--Cleo A. Noel Jr., in Sudan, 1973 (murdered by murdered by the Black September, a Palestinian terrorist organization)


I owe a mea culpa then. I was unaware and should have checked before speaking instead of letting my frustration get the better of me.


Not at all. Benghazi is just the latest death of a US Ambassador. Diplomacy has historically been undervalued in US foreign policy, and diplomats suffer for it. For example, the Pentagon has more lawyers than the State Department has diplomats. Why negotiate when you can kill is the attitude I suppose.

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K2000
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CLINK wrote:
If Obama's responsible for Benghazi, then Bush is responsible for 9/11.



Right on.

Also, Obama called Benghazi "terrorism" the next day, during a press conference. How quickly you forget... During the presidential election debate, Romney tried to call Obama out for not calling it terrorism, and got humiliated on national TV. "Please continue, governor..." I think the election was over, after that.

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Brett620 wrote:
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SexMachine wrote:
Also one of the soldiers on the roof had a laser designator. He could've directed air strikes on the insurgents.


Given the proximity of the platoon size element of the assaulting body of militants to American personnel, close air support would have been danger close to say the least.


That's the question I want answered. WHO decided not to rescue our boys given the size, scale and scope of the attack was unknown? Who told our military to stand down??

Simple question.


Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta and Joint Chief of Staff General Martin E. Dempsey testified before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on February 7, 2013, about the September attacks on the U.S. Embassy in Benghazi, Libya and the response of the Defense Department.

http://www.cfr.org/...ary-2013/p29939

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Bismark
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Noone?

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SexMachine
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Bismark wrote:
Noone?


http://www.washingtontimes.com/...th-benghazi-op/

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pittbulll
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YAWN :)

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Bismark
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Leon Panetta:


"In consultation with Chairman Dempsey and AFRICOM Commander General Ham, I directed several specific actions:

A Marine Fleet Antiterrorism Security Team (FAST) platoon, stationed in Spain to prepare to deploy to Benghazi;
A Second FAST platoon to prepare to deploy to the Embassy in Tripoli;
A special operations force, which was training in Central Europe, to prepare to deploy to an intermediate staging base in Southern Europe; and
A special operations force based in the United States to deploy to an intermediate staging base in Southern Europe.
Some have asked why other types of armed aircraft were not dispatched to Benghazi. The reason is because armed UAVs, AC-130 gunships, or fixed-wing fighters with the associated tanking, armaments, targeting and support capabilities were not in the vicinity of Libya and because of the distance, would have taken at least 9 to 12 hours if not more to deploy. This was, pure and simple, a problem of distance and time.

The quickest response option available was the Tripoli-based security team. Within hours, this six-person team, including two U.S. military personnel, chartered a private airplane and deployed to Benghazi. Within 15 minutes of arriving at the Annex facility, they came under attack by mortar and rocket propelled grenades. Members of this team, along with others at the Annex facility, provided emergency medical assistance and supported the evacuation of all personnel. Only 12 hours after the attacks began, all remaining U.S. government
personnel had been safely evacuated from Benghazi.

Looking back, our actions in the immediate aftermath of these attacks have been subject to intense scrutiny and review. Let me share with you the conclusion that the Accountability Review Board reached: The interagency response was timely and appropriate, but there simply was not enough time given the speed of the attacks for armed U.S. military assets to have made a difference. Senior-level interagency discussions were underway soon after Washington received initial word of the attacks and continued through the night. The Board found no evidence of any undue delays in decision making or denial of support from Washington or from the military combatant commanders. Quite the contrary: the safe evacuation of all U.S. government personnel from Benghazi twelve hours after the initial attack and subsequently to Ramstein Air Force Base was the result of exceptional U.S. government coordination and military response and helped save the lives of two severely wounded Americans."

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pushharder
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It doesn't matter one whit what your opinion on Limbaugh and Palin is the logic in this article is impeccable.

http://www.breitbart.com/...t-Off-the-Table

"Contrary to some less than informed opinion, 'high crimes and misdemeanors' ? the legal standard for impeachment ? refers not to indictable criminal offenses but to profound breaches of the public trust by high-ranking officials," McCarthy wrote. "Once the standard is understood, it becomes easy to see that the president and his underlings have committed numerous, readily provable impeachable offenses. "

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pushharder
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Pirro is very, very good in general and particularly here:

http://www.breitbart.com/...e-You-Really-On

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pushharder
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An argument from the right against impeachment:

http://www.breitbart.com/...egy-for-the-GOP

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MaximusB
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I think people can see that this president is mostly full of shit, so the impeachment argument is somewhat moot at this point. Conservatives were proven correct on a number of issues, it just took some time to show that.


A recent poll take shows Romney would win if the election were held today, by 9 points. Romney is by no means a darling candidate, but much better than our current Commander in Grief.

"Obama won the popular vote 51 percent to 47 percent in 2012, but a CNN/ORC International poll this past week showed Romney winning 53 percent to 44 percent if a rematch were held today."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/...2637_story.html

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pushharder
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Congress Should Censure Obama, Not Impeach

http://www.newsmax.com/...8/04/id/586747/

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