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Obese People In the Gym
 

BD123
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I was fat as hell when I first hit the gym. 295 of gut and ass, probably even higher than that at some points. People would look at me like I was some type of crazy walrus that some inconsiderate marine biologist had misplaced in their gym. I was drenched and dripping with sweat (always wiped down the machines though) and running around trying to circuit train in a packed out gym. I'm sure people laughed and I never really cared, I would've laughed too, I'm sure I looked freaking hilarious!

Ended up buying some more weights and a bench to add to some equipment I already had and now I just do everything at home, not because of the things people would say or think but because they would slow me down when I was trying to move through a circuit. Also old people and the various fungi that they carry. Seriously though why are old dudes just chilling out in the locker room with their balls hanging out, sitting on the benches. Anyway...

I weigh 225 now... Bottom line, fat people shouldn't go to the gym they should buy some dumbbells and circuit train at home. When you can see your feet go back to the gym and switch to packing on muscle. You don't need those stupid classes or Elliptical machines... Cardio and Aerobics are good for a four minute tabata sequence before you lift to get the blood flowing, anything more than that is trying to put lipstick on a pig. If your diet's not right on top of everything else you might as well just save the money you spend on the gym for a Rascal and some bigger sweatpants.

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emdawgz1
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BD123 wrote:

I weigh 225 now... Bottom line, fat people shouldn't go to the gym they should buy some dumbbells and circuit train at home. When you can see your feet go back to the gym and switch to packing on muscle. You don't need those stupid classes or Elliptical machines... Cardio and Aerobics are good for a four minute tabata sequence before you lift to get the blood flowing, anything more than that is trying to put lipstick on a pig. If your diet's not right on top of everything else you might as well just save the money you spend on the gym for a Rascal and some bigger sweatpants.


This, is the DUMBEST thing i've ever heard!

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BD123
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emdawgz1 wrote:
BD123 wrote:

I weigh 225 now... Bottom line, fat people shouldn't go to the gym they should buy some dumbbells and circuit train at home. When you can see your feet go back to the gym and switch to packing on muscle. You don't need those stupid classes or Elliptical machines... Cardio and Aerobics are good for a four minute tabata sequence before you lift to get the blood flowing, anything more than that is trying to put lipstick on a pig. If your diet's not right on top of everything else you might as well just save the money you spend on the gym for a Rascal and some bigger sweatpants.


This, is the DUMBEST thing i've ever heard!



Why don't you elaborate on that?

Was it that fat people are wasting their time and money going to a gym? I think most people are wasting their time and money going to the gym if they can't do 100 pushups. Do you really need access to all of that equipment? With the small gym I've put together I can hit all the core lifts, no one gets in my way here and I don't have to add an extra 20 minutes to my day driving to a gym.I do have to buy more weights to add on about once a month now but it's still less than a membership for a decent gym.

Was it that cardio and aerobics are a waste of time for obese people? That's a pretty widely held opinion... It's just too much for obese people to be able to sustain to see the kind of results as compared to high rep, light weight, zero rest, daily resistance circuit training. Cardio and aerobics are great for conditioning and weight loss in fit, average and slightly "out of shape" people but the strain it puts on an obese persons heart and joints just makes it inappropriate. It's like the diet coke at the end of the supersize value meal...

Apparently my stupidity helped me transform myself from a fat slob to a somewhat close to fit slob in about 6 months...70 pounds lost and counting while gaining muscle mass.

Please if you have something to actually add to the conversation be my guest. If you want to just throw out insults, save it.

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njrusmc
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^Sound advice, but I personally like the weight room feel. I spent about 100 bucks on used gym equipment (olympic bar and 400 lbs of weights) and I've only used it like 5 times at home. I always suck ass at home but in the gym I'm always better. I just like being in the gym, I guess. Some people are the opposite, some people have no preference. The biggest dudes in the gym motivated me to train harder even though I never spoke to any of them. I just wanted to be big like them ... and now I (kind of) am. If I had been home I might not have had a good understanding of my goals, if that makes sense.

edit - I was never fat, I was very skinny instead. Always focusing on getting bigger versus leaner.

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BD123
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njrusmc wrote:
^Sound advice, but I personally like the weight room feel. I spent about 100 bucks on used gym equipment (olympic bar and 400 lbs of weights) and I've only used it like 5 times at home. I always suck ass at home but in the gym I'm always better. I just like being in the gym, I guess. Some people are the opposite, some people have no preference. The biggest dudes in the gym motivated me to train harder even though I never spoke to any of them. I just wanted to be big like them ... and now I (kind of) am. If I had been home I might not have had a good understanding of my goals, if that makes sense.

edit - I was never fat, I was very skinny instead. Always focusing on getting bigger versus leaner.


Yeah if that works for ya then it's definitely worth it. For mass building, strength training the gym makes a lot of sense. I'm getting to that point now and will probably be looking for a gym. I want to start doing some of the Olympic lifts and the standard set that I have (yeah... I bought them when I was a dumb kid) just doesn't cut it with all the torque building up, I'll probably pay a trainer there for a session or two to check on my form. So yeah, don't get me wrong, a gym definitely has some benefits if you find the right one. For me, at the time, it just wasn't necessary, wasn't a good gym and added more hassle than benefit for the type of training to meet my goal of fat loss.

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Ares013
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emdawgz1
If that picture is of yourself, you are doing Obese right. Holy hell!

And the circuit training for fat asses is also an approved message. If you are working on you chest fly form instead of being able to do 100 push ups or sit ups, or unable to do a proper prison squat you don't need a gym membership or personal trainer. You need to man up and get good at the basics. Not saying you need to see your toes, but you do need a modicum of base strength and stamina to start any proven effective program or you will flounder and feel bad about yourself.

Doc P

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Zero
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Just to add, this is what it looks like from the other side.

http://jezebel.com/...ym-without-fear

How To Hit The Gym Without Fear


For the novice, gyms can be a little scary. They're full of machines, and people watching you, and it can feel like every second you're doing something wrong. And even if you're an experienced gym rat, a new facility or routine can present some social challenges. Luckily, we're here to help.

Below, a few tips to help newbies and old-timers alike have a great gym experience.

Go on tour.

I talked to Ragen Chastain, gym aficionado and blogger at Dances With Fat, who offers this advice for anyone considering a new gym:


Go and get a tour before you join, and really pay attention to how people are, what different shapes and sizes of people there might be, and how people are interacting with each other. Go with a gym where you feel comfortable with the vibe there.

She adds,


Go around and find a gym where you're comfortable immediately when you walk in. Don't try to make yourself something else for the gym, or feel like when you start going to the gym you'll become a different person who'll fit in. Find a place where it feels like you fit in right away.

Take a class.

Says Chastain, "Once you choose a gym, a lot of gyms will do an introductory program [...], and I highly recommend taking that." She points out that a lot of gym anxiety stems from things like not knowing how to use the machines, and a quick introduction to all of them will make you feel more at ease. Our own MorningGloria adds that if the gym doesn't have a specific introductory program, you can ask someone at the front desk to show you around. Another option:


If you want a more-than-basic education, sign up for a session with a personal trainer who operates out of the gym. They'll help you familiarize yourself with the environment and come up with a routine for you to follow so that you know what you're doing.

Chastain endorses this approach too, but adds, "make sure you're clear with the trainer what your goals are. If you're a Health at Every Size person and you're goal isn't weight loss, be clear about that ? whatever it is you're trying to do."

Bring a friend

Says Chastain,


I'd look at possibly joining with a friend or some friends. People tend to do healthy habits more when they do them with a group of friends anyway, and it can help with the scare factor if you're at least there with some people who you know and who are supporting you. You could also try to join a friend's gym, where they already know what's going on.

MoGlo adds,


A male friend and I used to go to the gym together and we'd have treadmill races and then we'd go through the weight machines together and spot each other. My boyfriend isn't as much of a gym rat, but we'll go together and do our own thing for an hour and then reconvene and get a smoothie. Gym time doesn't have to be SERIOUS BUSINESS FEEL THE BURN time. It can be fun, and relaxing, and it doesn't have to be intimidating.

When it comes to machines, be considerate.

Says MoGlo: "Pay attention to your gym's rules for cardio machine occupancy time limits. Some gyms don't care if you're on the elliptical for an hour, others will limit your elliptical time to 30 minutes. Even if you don't like the guidelines, respect them. It's rude to break the rules of the house." And when using weight machines: "Sit and relax for a bit between sets, but don't camp out. [...] The bench press is not a chair."

Chastain offers some more specifics:


When you switch back and forth [on weight machines] it's called setting in or repping in. If someone is lifting weights and they're resting between sets, it's polite to let somebody else come in and work while you're resting. [...] But if you're looking at somebody and they're using a racked weight machine, and they've been lifting 550 pounds and you're planning to lift twenty, then it's not polite to ask to rep in because they're going to have to move 530 pounds and put it back on. So you want to rep in with somebody who's doing something similar to you, or who's on a machine that's easily adjusted.

Once you know which machine you want to use, she says, "wait til they're on their rest set and say, 'can I set in?' or 'can I rep in?' and they'll probably say yes." Oh, and do everyone a favor and wipe your sweat off the machines after you use them: "you should bring a towel and water, but if you're going to forget something, forget the water, because the towel is for other people."

Same goes for pools.

I'm no expert on weight machines, but I have patronized public pools in three different states, and I can tell you a couple of things about how to get along with your fellow swimmers. First, choose the correct lane. Many pools label their lanes "slow, "medium," and "fast," but if the lanes are unlabeled, those at the edges of the pool are usually slower than those toward the center. If you haven't done much swimming before or think you are a slow swimmer, the slow lanes are best. Slow swimmers in faster lanes can mess up other people's strokes and make it hard for them to get a good workout. Similarly, if you know you're speedy, it's not a good idea to pick the slow lane just because it has fewer people in it ? you may end up getting backed up behind slower swimmers, smacking them in the feet with your hand as you try to swim fast, and generally being frustrated.

Second, pool etiquette usually dictates that if only two people share a lane, they split it in half. If three or more people need to share (and this is usually the case of public pools), they circle. This means everybody is swimming up one side of the lane and then down the other, one after another. This is why it's helpful if everyone's going at around the same speed, but inevitably, there will be small differences. There are a number of ways to deal with this that are a little difficult to describe without a pool at hand, but one way that's not so great is to try to surge past the person in front of you by going into the other side of the lane. That's kind of like passing another car on a two-lane road ? it's possible, but it can cause a lot of problems. It can also annoy everyone involved. And when annoyed, your fellow swimmers will start to talk shit about you ? I've seen it. The best course of action at all times is to remember that the pool is shared space, and if that means you can't go quite as fast as you want to, that's how it has to be.

A word on changing.

Locker rooms are a little strange, in that they're a semi-public place in which it's okay to be naked. I'm always worried that I'll violate some kind of unspoken nudity rule, so I usually do most of my changing in stalls of some kind ? some locker rooms have cool combined shower/changing rooms which are ideal for this purpose. Says MoGlo,


I'm really shy about being naked, so for a long time I'd go after work and change as quickly as I could in a bathroom stall. I don't care much anymore, but, generally speaking, try to keep the nudity contained as a courtesy to other patrons. Get naked if you need to, but don't stroll around naked, unless you're in a sauna or steam room or another nakedtime type place.

I'd add that, depending on the locker room, there will probably be at least one person who does kind of stroll around naked, and there's not much you can do about that. You can, however, limit your own nudity to whatever makes you most comfortable ? if there are no changing stalls and you want to change in a bathroom stall, that's your prerogative. Nobody should feel like they have to be naked in front of strangers in order to work out.

It's okay to talk to people, but be respectful.

Says MoGlo,


Don't hit on people who are trying to exercise. If you want to flirt with someone, wait until they go to the water fountain or are walking between areas of the gym, or flirt with them in a group class. There are few things more annoying than being in the middle of a treadmill run and having a stranger tap you on the shoulder to say something that would be better saved for a bar. General rule: if someone has their headphones on, that's a sign that they don't want to interact.

I'd add that people generally don't take kindly to unsolicited advice while they're working out. If someone tries to tell you what to do at the gym, and you're not interested, Chastain suggests, "if you are somebody who feels like you want to do a teachable moment, you can stop and do a teachable moment about whatever your program is and why you're not doing what that person would advise you to do." However, if you'd rather just get on with your workout, say something like "I'm on a program, and I'm really trying to concentrate, so if you don't mind, I need to be able to focus."

Be confident, but relax.

No matter what your level of fitness, you have as much right to be in a gym or pool as anyone. Says MoGlo,


Don't be afraid to take up space and use the machines; you're paying the same per-month membership fee as they are and you have every right to lift a lighter weight if you'd like. Don't let people stare you out of the weight room. You belong there, too.

At the same time, know that most people probably won't even notice what you're doing. MoGlo explains,


[A]t the end of the day, remember that most people at the gym aren't there to look at people; they're there to work on themselves. It's not a beauty contest and even if you do something mortifying like trip over your own feet and shoot backwards off of a treadmill, chances are you won't ever see those people again, and if you do, they won't remember you.

And while it's important to be considerate of others when you're at the gym, you're not really there to impress them. You're there to work out, and hopefully to have some fun.

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lawndarts
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you have to start some where

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etali
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I lift weights at home, rather than in a gym. I do train martial arts, though, and I remember a really fat kid starting the mixed classes (older kids+adults) last year. His first class, he had to bow out of the warmup after jogging a couple of laps because he couldn't cope - he was wheezing, panting, and had turned purple. He kept trying to join back in, though, and he kept coming back every week. Nobody teased him, people just said OK, join back in when you're ready. He did a bit more every class.

After a few months, he was no longer HUGE, and today, a bit more than a year on, he's just kinda chunky - and pretty strong for his age. I've got way more respect for a kid like him than I do some of the adults that start who are already in OK-ish shape, but half-ass all the bits of the class that require some effort.

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ditillo2
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"What do people think of obese people when you see them in the gym working their ass off?"

You mean superheavyweight powerlifters?


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Apoklyps
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Don't care how fat someone is. What I really don't like is fair-weather exercisers (e.g. the post-New Year's flood) because they are a genuine waste of space. I don't really like working out with regular people in general (because I think I make much better progress and learn a lot more when I work out with the hardcore crowd), but nobody deserves to be made fun of for their fitness/athletic goals, whatever they may be. Except curlbros. Until a sporting organization is developed to test who has the "strongest cheat curl with wimpiest legs", make fun of them with impunity and without mercy.

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Ginavl425
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This thread was on my mind a lot at the gym yesterday.

When I hit the 6th set of the Weds Velocity Diet workout all my injuries from the last two years screamed at me. Even though I was dead-lifting medium, when you are lifting a weight 80-90 times in one session you lift a bit lighter, the three previously broken bones in my foot felt like they were on fire. As I got myself into the half way mark on the side plank the six surgical scars on my abs sent stabbing pain through my entire torso.

When I did the standing shoulder press, all four radial ends in lower arm in both arms from two broken arms last year, stung like a mother effer. My face was red, I was sweating and breathing through grit teeth, this shit hurt like hell!

And the jack asses who were flinging around 40 pound dumbbells with exaggerated body English and absolutely no bodily control of their weights were staring at me. I know this because as I was focusing on the spot on the mirror for the dead-lift I would make eye contact with them. I already know that two plus years of injuries and surgery, bed-rest from a baby and a battle with osteoarthritis has wrecked havoc on my body. Most fat people in the gym know they are fat, I know it's a shock.

MAYBE instead of looking at my body you pay attention to YOUR form and YOUR own shit because that fat chick in the gym just might have been lifting for nearly twenty years and has a clue and is laughing inside at what an idiot you look like trying to lift way beyond your abilities.

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kiwiinmn
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It's not right to make fun of anyone really, no matter the time place or predicament. It's a shame that too many gyms now are so staff sparse, personal trainer heavy with cardio equipment increasingly becoming the establishments best friend as more clients cannot afford to regularly make use of trainers.

Think about it for just one minute... anyone that has pretty much never been to a gym before can jump on a piece of cardio equipment and flounder their way thru a pre programmed workout with a low chance of injury. How many people can walk into a gym and with no or little experience or help figure out how to put together a good sex, age and ability appropriate weight lifting program?... none

So it makes perfect sense that the obese, the elderly, the less capable and the un educated will gravitate to the bikes, treadmills, ellipticals etc because that best suites their comfort levels and knowledge base.

So don't laugh at them, encourage them, make a positive comment to them if the opportunity presents itself, offer help and knowledge if your able, just try and do a little something to reinforce a positive experience for them at the gym, it will increase the rate of sticktuitiveness thereby increasing the rate of physical activity in the country.

Those that should be laughed at at the gym are the trainers who have their obease clients on the floor trying to do crunches and doing freakin v sits on the end of a bench... ha

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BigEddieCalzone
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I'm 51, disabled, and used to weigh 466 lbs. I come into the gym in my power wheelchair. Friends have gotten together to get me a personal trainer so I can get help using the weights and rebuilding the muscle that was lost in a coma 10 years ago.

If I had to worry about every jackass who wasn't working hard enough and found the time to make fun of me, I'd never get anything done. (More than once, other guys training next to me laugh when they see that I'm working harder than they are.) In fact, because of my trainer and THIS board, I discovered that I was shockingly low in testosterone (you'd have to triple my scores just to get to the lowest number on the scale) and the belly fat and hardgainer status are disappearing fast.

This is something that affect more morbidly obese men than you could possibly imagine. Biochemically, we are SCREWED and we need medical intervention to lose weight fast enough without harming ourselves.

So yeah, laugh to yourselves if you gotta, but encouragement does a hella lot more to keep them coming in and fighting the war.

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Wezcattoy
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I've been the obese guy at the gym....and now I'm just the chubby guy at the gym.

My experience always was that if people looked at me disapprovingly or had a snide comment while I was working out, I just turned up my music and went harder. I always saw it as motivation.

"That's why I'm here" sort of mentality.

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odins_maiden
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I used to be a fat girl, my spare tire was 44 inches, now my waist is down to 31ish. Still not happy though, I've become addicted to the gym and the changes, there is always work to do... I don't hate fat people, I just get frustrated by the ones in my family and friend circle.

They have watched me change my entire body (size 22 to 6/7), they watch me go play in the beautiful weather and my comfort with wearing smaller/tighter/more revealing clothes and what do they do? Nothing. I am sad that they can't do any of the fun stuff I have planned for this year! A nude run, run or dye, tough mudder... I don't want to sit on the couch, munch on junk food and watch movies EVERY SINGLE TIME we hang out, but they aren't willing to even go for a walk with me.

And don't even get me started on the anger that flares up when they start to WHINE about something they don't like about their body. Don't like the cottage cheese on your thighs?? Then do something about it!

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AliveAgain36
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Join date: Apr 2013
Location: Indiana, USA
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About 18 months ago I was fat..
I went to the gym and starting eating and sleeping better.
People probably made fun of me.
I did shit wrong at first.
I did a lot of research.
I do less wrong shit now.
I can lift pretty heavy shit and run for a pretty long time.
I'm not fat anymore.

Fuck the people that made fun of me.

If you'e fat, you don't have to be. And fuck the people that make fun of you.

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