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SWHaUnTsMe: morning HT. I think we can do a little work to change that, unless you like it that way. It's only bad if you start asking and answering your own questions, right?

MikeTheBear: I also have sore abs after front squats. I realize that this is also an isometric-type exercise since the abs are assisting in stabilizing the upper body, but I would not place the demands placed on the abs during a heavy front squat in the same category as planks.

MikeTheBear: I get what you're saying about the ab roller, and I too have noticed that it is very easy to turn this into a glorified plank. This is why I try really hard to pull with my abs so that my back does actually round at the finish of the movement. Does doing the roller this way may it better in your opinion?

judge_jab: What do you think about swiss ball weighted crunches with their extra range of motion?

gatoazul: The one thing I like at my gym is the freemotion abdominal machine. It has a rounded pad to position on one's back and great support to keep the hips out of the movement (which are bend overs, not crunches). Used to have to use the lat pulldown machine for these.

sandos: Good stuff. I sometimes throw in hanging leg raises as they are really hard for me at by body weight. I try to bring my feet all the way up to the bar, not just up to my waist. I'm not arching at the beginning tho, since I am hanging. Do you have an opinion of these? Also, for the ab roller, I am sore for days with those. It's gotta be doing something!

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