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G0D123
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BUDs wrote:
DACistheman wrote:
@BUDs, thanks for the info. I would imagine using both is better or is it just personal preference? If its just personal preference ill just stick with nolva and see how I like it. So for my PCT you recommend tapering off something like 40/40/20/20/10/5? and adding a low dose of adex throughout my PCT like .25mg E3d? i thought adex with PCT is a bad idea because it keeps your e levels too low so id definitely want to keep it at a low dose



It's mostly preference yes. I feel I recover better using both. So you can try one, then next time try the other or both and see what you like.

That taper looks good. For the adex I would run .25mb EOD the first week then .125mg EOD for the next 3 weeks, then half of that for week, then half of that the next.



btw did you know nolva reduce blood serum levels of arimidex so basically it renders it useless thats why you have aromasin but dosage can be really tricky for pct.. cause arom is a way more powerful drug..

maybe you could dose adex slightly higher to counter the reduced plasma levels when using nolva maybe use 0.5 to get the benefit of 0.125 or 0.25 equivalent.. havent tried it or read about it anywhere just my common sense, but my pct starts in 2 weeks from sunday i might give it a shot if i have some adex left..

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Mr. Walkway
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G0D123 wrote:
Mr. Walkway wrote:
G0D123 wrote:
so my suggestion would be to start off with no ai since its your very first cycle and see where you go..


FUCKING IDIOTS!!! WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE?!!



Mr Walkaway i have been watching you for a while now & all you do is curse around and dont really contribute to teh thread.. you have a roid rage, its time you "Walk away"..


you should read a bit more closely.. as you learn more about steroids, and the effects they have on our bodies, you will begin to see that what I am saying is actually quite significant

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BUDs
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G0D123 wrote:
BUDs wrote:
DACistheman wrote:
@BUDs, thanks for the info. I would imagine using both is better or is it just personal preference? If its just personal preference ill just stick with nolva and see how I like it. So for my PCT you recommend tapering off something like 40/40/20/20/10/5? and adding a low dose of adex throughout my PCT like .25mg E3d? i thought adex with PCT is a bad idea because it keeps your e levels too low so id definitely want to keep it at a low dose



It's mostly preference yes. I feel I recover better using both. So you can try one, then next time try the other or both and see what you like.

That taper looks good. For the adex I would run .25mb EOD the first week then .125mg EOD for the next 3 weeks, then half of that for week, then half of that the next.



btw did you know nolva reduce blood serum levels of arimidex so basically it renders it useless thats why you have aromasin but dosage can be really tricky for pct.. cause arom is a way more powerful drug..

maybe you could dose adex slightly higher to counter the reduced plasma levels when using nolva maybe use 0.5 to get the benefit of 0.125 or 0.25 equivalent.. havent tried it or read about it anywhere just my common sense, but my pct starts in 2 weeks from sunday i might give it a shot if i have some adex left..



Not quite right there.

By your thread and comments I don't really think you really should be shelling out advice.

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c.m.l.
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Not to nut jockey but WW is one of the few noteworthy people who police this part of the forum. B4 I got on there was alot of good people here, I remember learning alot from BushidoBadBoy.

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G0D123
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BUDs wrote:

Not quite right there.

By your thread and comments I don't really think you really should be shelling out advice.


lets leave my thread out of this.. incase you dint read, im up a solid +12 kgs with this week..


and which part of it was really "Not quite right there" ?? without suggesting anything and just nitpicking is not gonna help me or the OP, ur just wasting everybody's time..

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G0D123 wrote:
BUDs wrote:

Not quite right there.

By your thread and comments I don't really think you really should be shelling out advice.


lets leave my thread out of this.. incase you dint read, im up a solid +12 kgs with this week..


and which part of it was really "Not quite right there" ?? without suggesting anything and just nitpicking is not gonna help me or the OP, ur just wasting everybody's time..



So your what? 170lbs now? Which I know already you'll lose everything just based on your thread.

And the part I was referring to was your whole post. My intention wasn't to criticize you and in fact I was helping, I was helping the OP by correcting your post.

Your not far off but Nolva won't render adex useless, it can decrease the effectiveness of adex by 38% but were talking pct here not on cycle dosing, so losing a little effectiveness isn't gonna hurt.

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BUDs wrote:
G0D123 wrote:
BUDs wrote:

Not quite right there.

By your thread and comments I don't really think you really should be shelling out advice.


lets leave my thread out of this.. incase you dint read, im up a solid +12 kgs with this week..


and which part of it was really "Not quite right there" ?? without suggesting anything and just nitpicking is not gonna help me or the OP, ur just wasting everybody's time..



So your what? 170lbs now? Which I know already you'll lose everything just based on your thread.

And the part I was referring to was your whole post. My intention wasn't to criticize you and in fact I was helping, I was helping the OP by correcting your post.

Your not far off but Nolva won't render adex useless, it can decrease the effectiveness of adex by 38% but were talking pct here not on cycle dosing, so losing a little effectiveness isn't gonna hurt.


we will see about the "losing everything" part ill let you know first..

and bitch please you read teh first line and immediately write a reply, read teh second para you piece of shit..

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G0D123 wrote:
BUDs wrote:
G0D123 wrote:
BUDs wrote:

Not quite right there.

By your thread and comments I don't really think you really should be shelling out advice.


lets leave my thread out of this.. incase you dint read, im up a solid +12 kgs with this week..


and which part of it was really "Not quite right there" ?? without suggesting anything and just nitpicking is not gonna help me or the OP, ur just wasting everybody's time..



So your what? 170lbs now? Which I know already you'll lose everything just based on your thread.

And the part I was referring to was your whole post. My intention wasn't to criticize you and in fact I was helping, I was helping the OP by correcting your post.

Your not far off but Nolva won't render adex useless, it can decrease the effectiveness of adex by 38% but were talking pct here not on cycle dosing, so losing a little effectiveness isn't gonna hurt.


we will see about the "losing everything" part ill let you know first..

and bitch please you read teh first line and immediately write a reply, read teh second para you piece of shit..



Huh?

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G0D123
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G0D123 wrote:

btw did you know nolva reduce blood serum levels of arimidex so basically it renders it useless thats why you have aromasin but dosage can be really tricky for pct.. cause arom is a way more powerful drug..

maybe you could dose adex slightly higher to counter the reduced plasma levels when using nolva maybe use 0.5 to get the benefit of 0.125 or 0.25 equivalent.. havent tried it or read about it anywhere just my common sense, but my pct starts in 2 weeks from sunday i might give it a shot if i have some adex left..


you just read the first line, BUDs and immediately hit up a reply.. you should start reading entire paras you know.. its a good exercise for your eyes, my friend , and your brain..

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G0D123
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BUDs wrote:

That taper looks good. For the adex I would run .25mb EOD the first week then .125mg EOD for the next 3 weeks, then half of that for week, then half of that the next.


0.125mg could be still possible, but 0.0625 & 0.03125mg how would yo do that on a 1 mg tablet ? or are you talking about liquidex here ?

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Dieseldave
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G0D123 wrote:
and something no one suggested, ffs include dbol at 20 or 30 mg for 4-5 weeks you will gain slightly more muscle mass than test e alone..

if you dont add dbol , dont expect strength to go up immediately from test e alone.. for me it took 5 weeks for it to kick in and teh first 5 weeks were depressing cause i dint feel on roids and just looked fat.. i dint even feel like eating mad (but i did) cause i just dint feel like on roids.. dont forget liver supps !


You barely managed 130g protein a day on your 'cycle'


You are polluting these boards and insulting respected members

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c.m.l.
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Dieseldave wrote:
G0D123 wrote:
and something no one suggested, ffs include dbol at 20 or 30 mg for 4-5 weeks you will gain slightly more muscle mass than test e alone..

if you dont add dbol , dont expect strength to go up immediately from test e alone.. for me it took 5 weeks for it to kick in and teh first 5 weeks were depressing cause i dint feel on roids and just looked fat.. i dint even feel like eating mad (but i did) cause i just dint feel like on roids.. dont forget liver supps !


You barely managed 130g protein a day on your 'cycle'


You are polluting these boards and insulting respected members


x2

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Bauber
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Dieseldave wrote:
G0D123 wrote:
and something no one suggested, ffs include dbol at 20 or 30 mg for 4-5 weeks you will gain slightly more muscle mass than test e alone..

if you dont add dbol , dont expect strength to go up immediately from test e alone.. for me it took 5 weeks for it to kick in and teh first 5 weeks were depressing cause i dint feel on roids and just looked fat.. i dint even feel like eating mad (but i did) cause i just dint feel like on roids.. dont forget liver supps !


You barely managed 130g protein a day on your 'cycle'


You are polluting these boards and insulting respected members


But I am sure he is hooge and made monster gains guys. He takes 130 grams of protein a day on cycle. He is fucking jacked guys.

P.S. I know girls who take more protein in than that a day.

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G0D123
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Bauber wrote:
Dieseldave wrote:
G0D123 wrote:
and something no one suggested, ffs include dbol at 20 or 30 mg for 4-5 weeks you will gain slightly more muscle mass than test e alone..

if you dont add dbol , dont expect strength to go up immediately from test e alone.. for me it took 5 weeks for it to kick in and teh first 5 weeks were depressing cause i dint feel on roids and just looked fat.. i dint even feel like eating mad (but i did) cause i just dint feel like on roids.. dont forget liver supps !


You barely managed 130g protein a day on your 'cycle'


You are polluting these boards and insulting respected members


But I am sure he is hooge and made monster gains guys. He takes 130 grams of protein a day on cycle. He is fucking jacked guys.

P.S. I know girls who take more protein in than that a day.



yea i know, really funny right ?? hahaha

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G0D123
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Dieseldave wrote:
G0D123 wrote:
and something no one suggested, ffs include dbol at 20 or 30 mg for 4-5 weeks you will gain slightly more muscle mass than test e alone..

if you dont add dbol , dont expect strength to go up immediately from test e alone.. for me it took 5 weeks for it to kick in and teh first 5 weeks were depressing cause i dint feel on roids and just looked fat.. i dint even feel like eating mad (but i did) cause i just dint feel like on roids.. dont forget liver supps !


You barely managed 130g protein a day on your 'cycle'


You are polluting these boards and insulting respected members




G0D123 wrote:
Bauber wrote:
Dieseldave wrote:
G0D123 wrote:
and something no one suggested, ffs include dbol at 20 or 30 mg for 4-5 weeks you will gain slightly more muscle mass than test e alone..

if you dont add dbol , dont expect strength to go up immediately from test e alone.. for me it took 5 weeks for it to kick in and teh first 5 weeks were depressing cause i dint feel on roids and just looked fat.. i dint even feel like eating mad (but i did) cause i just dint feel like on roids.. dont forget liver supps !


You barely managed 130g protein a day on your 'cycle'


You are polluting these boards and insulting respected members


But I am sure he is hooge and made monster gains guys. He takes 130 grams of protein a day on cycle. He is fucking jacked guys.

P.S. I know girls who take more protein in than that a day.



yea i know, really funny right ?? hahaha

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installglass
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Dieseldave wrote:
G0D123 wrote:
and something no one suggested, ffs include dbol at 20 or 30 mg for 4-5 weeks you will gain slightly more muscle mass than test e alone..

if you dont add dbol , dont expect strength to go up immediately from test e alone.. for me it took 5 weeks for it to kick in and teh first 5 weeks were depressing cause i dint feel on roids and just looked fat.. i dint even feel like eating mad (but i did) cause i just dint feel like on roids.. dont forget liver supps !


You barely managed 130g protein a day on your 'cycle'


You are polluting these boards and insulting respected members


FTW

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