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naturalbuilder
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hello , I need some serious help here , sorry my username is wrong as I was natural bodybuilder when I created this account but not now , I got some juice

my cycle was a short one - test prop and anavar for 6 weeks
I shot test prop once in 3 days and anavar 30 mg everyday
I used 20 mg nolvadex during the cycle to prevent gyno and bloating was less , I gained 7 kg of mass in 6 weeks - now I am 103 kg bodyweight 12% bodyfat

I start my PCT 4 days after my test prop shot - I am doing nolva only PCT 20 mg everyday for past 2 weeks
I see no increase in my libido , I assume test prop and anavar completely left my body as these two drugs have short half life
I am also using horny goat weed and tribulus to boost natural test levels + nolvadex 20 mg - still my libido is dull

I don't have access to clomid ! I have access only to nolvadex , is this a problem ? will nolva only PCT improve natural test levels , last week I got my bloodwork done - the estrogen levels were under control but natural test levels were just 99 ng/dl

I hear few bro science saying clomid is the real test booster during PCT and nolvadex is more of a estrogen blocker, help would be much appreciated

thanks in advance

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SHREDTODEATH
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naturalbuilder wrote:
hello , I need some serious help here , sorry my username is wrong as I was natural bodybuilder when I created this account but not now , I got some juice

my cycle was a short one - test prop and anavar for 6 weeks
I shot test prop once in 3 days and anavar 30 mg everyday
I used 20 mg nolvadex during the cycle to prevent gyno and bloating was less , I gained 7 kg of mass in 6 weeks - now I am 103 kg bodyweight 12% bodyfat

I start my PCT 4 days after my test prop shot - I am doing nolva only PCT 20 mg everyday for past 2 weeks
I see no increase in my libido , I assume test prop and anavar completely left my body as these two drugs have short half life
I am also using horny goat weed and tribulus to boost natural test levels + nolvadex 20 mg - still my libido is dull

I don't have access to clomid ! I have access only to nolvadex , is this a problem ? will nolva only PCT improve natural test levels , last week I got my bloodwork done - the estrogen levels were under control but natural test levels were just 99 ng/dl

I hear few bro science saying clomid is the real test booster during PCT and nolvadex is more of a estrogen blocker, help would be much appreciated

thanks in advance

Couple of questions why did you use a SERM and not an AI on cycle, I know alot of bros have done this in the past but thought everyone had moved past this.

Why not run your nolva 40/40/20/20?

In my experience your libido wont jump right back, give your boys time to come back online. also how long have you been running PCT?

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Mr. Walkway
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naturalbuilder wrote:
hello , I need some serious help here , sorry my username is wrong as I was natural bodybuilder when I created this account but not now , I got some juice

my cycle was a short one - test prop and anavar for 6 weeks
I shot test prop once in 3 days and anavar 30 mg everyday
I used 20 mg nolvadex during the cycle to prevent gyno and bloating was less , I gained 7 kg of mass in 6 weeks - now I am 103 kg bodyweight 12% bodyfat

I start my PCT 4 days after my test prop shot - I am doing nolva only PCT 20 mg everyday for past 2 weeks
I see no increase in my libido , I assume test prop and anavar completely left my body as these two drugs have short half life
I am also using horny goat weed and tribulus to boost natural test levels + nolvadex 20 mg - still my libido is dull

I don't have access to clomid ! I have access only to nolvadex , is this a problem ? will nolva only PCT improve natural test levels , last week I got my bloodwork done - the estrogen levels were under control but natural test levels were just 99 ng/dl

I hear few bro science saying clomid is the real test booster during PCT and nolvadex is more of a estrogen blocker, help would be much appreciated

thanks in advance



-tribulus and HGW are worthless
-nolvadex at 20mg/day is sufficient but 40mg is slightly better
-you are supposed to feel like shit, have no testosterone, and no libido during pct

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naturalbuilder
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Mr. Walkway wrote:
naturalbuilder wrote:
hello , I need some serious help here , sorry my username is wrong as I was natural bodybuilder when I created this account but not now , I got some juice

my cycle was a short one - test prop and anavar for 6 weeks
I shot test prop once in 3 days and anavar 30 mg everyday
I used 20 mg nolvadex during the cycle to prevent gyno and bloating was less , I gained 7 kg of mass in 6 weeks - now I am 103 kg bodyweight 12% bodyfat

I start my PCT 4 days after my test prop shot - I am doing nolva only PCT 20 mg everyday for past 2 weeks
I see no increase in my libido , I assume test prop and anavar completely left my body as these two drugs have short half life
I am also using horny goat weed and tribulus to boost natural test levels + nolvadex 20 mg - still my libido is dull

I don't have access to clomid ! I have access only to nolvadex , is this a problem ? will nolva only PCT improve natural test levels , last week I got my bloodwork done - the estrogen levels were under control but natural test levels were just 99 ng/dl

I hear few bro science saying clomid is the real test booster during PCT and nolvadex is more of a estrogen blocker, help would be much appreciated

thanks in advance



-tribulus and HGW are worthless
-nolvadex at 20mg/day is sufficient but 40mg is slightly better
-you are supposed to feel like shit, have no testosterone, and no libido during pct


thanks for the reply sir , actually it has been 2 weeks I am doing my PCT - nolvadex 20 mg a day and still no improvement in libio
in the past I did a short cycle like this but I used clomid for PCT , I felt slight increase in my libido after 1 week and in 2 weeks I can see big difference in my libido , clomid worked in 2 weeks - in fact I just did 50 mg o clomid for 2 weeks and increase in libido

but with nolvadex for PCT there is no boost in libido , is this usual ?

this is the brand of nolvadex I am using - http://www.flexyx.com/...O/Oncomox.html, is that a good brand? I believe I should not tell the source here

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SHREDTODEATH wrote:
naturalbuilder wrote:
hello , I need some serious help here , sorry my username is wrong as I was natural bodybuilder when I created this account but not now , I got some juice

my cycle was a short one - test prop and anavar for 6 weeks
I shot test prop once in 3 days and anavar 30 mg everyday
I used 20 mg nolvadex during the cycle to prevent gyno and bloating was less , I gained 7 kg of mass in 6 weeks - now I am 103 kg bodyweight 12% bodyfat

I start my PCT 4 days after my test prop shot - I am doing nolva only PCT 20 mg everyday for past 2 weeks
I see no increase in my libido , I assume test prop and anavar completely left my body as these two drugs have short half life
I am also using horny goat weed and tribulus to boost natural test levels + nolvadex 20 mg - still my libido is dull

I don't have access to clomid ! I have access only to nolvadex , is this a problem ? will nolva only PCT improve natural test levels , last week I got my bloodwork done - the estrogen levels were under control but natural test levels were just 99 ng/dl

I hear few bro science saying clomid is the real test booster during PCT and nolvadex is more of a estrogen blocker, help would be much appreciated

thanks in advance

Couple of questions why did you use a SERM and not an AI on cycle, I know alot of bros have done this in the past but thought everyone had moved past this.

Why not run your nolva 40/40/20/20?

In my experience your libido wont jump right back, give your boys time to come back online. also how long have you been running PCT?


I used SERM nolvadex instead of something like arimidex which is slightly expensive , nolvadex is cheap as dirt and prevented gyno well and I invested that money In anavar which gave me amazing vascularity

I have been running nolvadex 20 mg pct for past 2 weeks , I lost 1 kg - just slight muscle loss and bit loss in strength in my compound lifts

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naturalbuilder
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i have one more question , I saw some studies which said nolvadex reduces igf-1 levels , is that a negative of nolvadex over clomid? will that affect my gains ?

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Mr. Walkway
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naturalbuilder wrote:
i have one more question , I saw some studies which said nolvadex reduces igf-1 levels , is that a negative of nolvadex over clomid? will that affect my gains ?


yes and not really..

clomid is standard pct nowadays.. re-test your testosterone a month after pct to see how things go. if they are still bad, run another pct with clomid

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Mr. Walkway wrote:
naturalbuilder wrote:
i have one more question , I saw some studies which said nolvadex reduces igf-1 levels , is that a negative of nolvadex over clomid? will that affect my gains ?


yes and not really..

clomid is standard pct nowadays.. re-test your testosterone a month after pct to see how things go. if they are still bad, run another pct with clomid


yesterday I got my bloodwork done , the test level was 401 ng/dl , 2 weeks back when I stopped AAS my test levels were as low as 90 , I used nolvadex for 2 weeks and it did showed improvement in test levels, 400 ng is slightly below average test level , the doc told 600 above is the optimal level for my age 24

I got improvement in my test levels but no improvement in my libido , I wonder why is that

increase in test levels should lead to increase in libido right ?

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Mr. Walkway
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naturalbuilder wrote:
Mr. Walkway wrote:
naturalbuilder wrote:
i have one more question , I saw some studies which said nolvadex reduces igf-1 levels , is that a negative of nolvadex over clomid? will that affect my gains ?


yes and not really..

clomid is standard pct nowadays.. re-test your testosterone a month after pct to see how things go. if they are still bad, run another pct with clomid


yesterday I got my bloodwork done , the test level was 401 ng/dl , 2 weeks back when I stopped AAS my test levels were as low as 90 , I used nolvadex for 2 weeks and it did showed improvement in test levels, 400 ng is slightly below average test level , the doc told 600 above is the optimal level for my age 24

I got improvement in my test levels but no improvement in my libido , I wonder why is that

increase in test levels should lead to increase in libido right ?



your estrogen may be high.. it's really hard to say without looking at your blood work

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McDouche
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Nolva always kills my libido

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