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westdale warrior
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Join date: Dec 2006
Location: Ontario, CAN
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come may il be moving again from a house in the student slums to an apartment building. although i relish the chance to once again stand on a balcony and feed my male instinct to oversee my lands i am losing my garage. my garage here at school is only used by me so i took it upon myself to string my heavy bag up from the rafters and it has been so for the passed year. now i will have no place to hang my bag and any of the local stores only have bag stands that i can either tell right away are two flimsy or have terrible internet reviews. however their is an exercise room in the building im moving into. i have lived in this building before so i know its probably only me and three asain guys who from what i can tell seem to be ninjas that use the space and its very very open.

im wondering if any one here has had any luck constructing their own bag stand it seems like it would have to be a free standing structure seeing as im not allowed to bolt it to a wall (if i could i would do so in my apartment and be done with it) any input would be much appreciated i dont want to go bag to one of those free standing sand or water filled buggers they just fall over.

thanks

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Da Man reloaded
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Join date: Nov 2010
Location: Ohio, USA
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Do you have enough room to construct a false ceiling? Four posts going up to near the ceiling, an X pattern between them, perimeter members. Essentially all the edges of a cube with an extra X on the top. Build that out of 2X4 or 4X4s (I would go 4x4 vertical posts, 2X4 bracing). Then slap a sheet of plywood/particle board on the top for added reinforcement. Problems - frikkin HUGE to leave enough space for you to move around the bag, fair amount of work, would have to be disassembled to move it, etc. Just a wild thought to consider.


If you are thinking more of the traditional corner hanger-
Would your bag be free hanging, or tethered to the base? Tethered would be easier to deal with because of less swinging, but I personally dont like them.

The obvious issue is tube strength. Are you a good welder or know someone that is? Or are you going to use steel pipe and fittings? Given a constant wall thickness, the larger the diameter the better. Given a constant diameter, the thicker the wall the better.

The 2 other issues that pop into my head right away are the cantilevered nature of the setup and the radial/lateral stability. Unfortunately the cantilever cant be avoided if you actually want to be able to hit the bag. I would try to use 2 hangers - 2 cantilevers meeting at the bag. Hopefully this would give great strength and aid in the radial/lateral stability. I think a 30?° angle between the two would still give plenty of striking room around the bag.

Now the lateral stability. The only way to deal with this is width/diameter of the base, unfortunately. Connecting the cantilevered arms to the base with some corner bracing and run the base as wide and deep as you can fit.

My initial thoughts, they might be crazy. I might try to sketch something up to make more sense.

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westdale warrior
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Join date: Dec 2006
Location: Ontario, CAN
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hmmm i had toyed with the idea of the cube but yes like you say it would need to be massive! i suppose i could deal with a tethered bag I do like the swing to get me moving and working range but some times it simply moves to much.

i do have a couple of friends that weld out in the oil fields for a living so they should be able to help me out

your cantilever idea got me to thinking of an almost swing set like design maybe with the two tepee like supports at each end then string it up from chain, hell if i made it long enough i could hand a double end bag aswell

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kmcnyc
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Join date: Nov 2006
Location: New York, USA
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are there any beams- or sophets or two wals that you can 'spread'

I make television and film for a living- there is allot of ways we rig gear in peoples homes-
we make 'goal posts' out of pipe and what we call cheese-boroughs you have seen them on scaffolding

or we make 'spreaders' out of lumber and pipe - think of telescopic rods you put curtains on

think if you have a corner or an area with walls maybe like 6 to 8 feet and without screwing shit into the wall
you can rig a pipe or 2x4 2x6 to hang your bag off of.

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westdale warrior
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Join date: Dec 2006
Location: Ontario, CAN
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thats intriguing but im not quite sure i fully understand

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kmcnyc
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Join date: Nov 2006
Location: New York, USA
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Yes- Its not something easy to explain

we have or make hardware for everything
this pic is of a 2x4 spreader-

measure the distance between two walls say 6-8 feet
attache the metal cups to the 2x4 and then wedge it from wall to wall
at the height you need.
use the screw jack portion to keep it tight.
if you need slide a piece of rubber or padding to keep the wall from damage.

like a chin up bar for your doorway.


they come in different sizes and even ones to do it an angle.

maybe not your ideal solution but just some - different ways to do it.

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westdale warrior
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Join date: Dec 2006
Location: Ontario, CAN
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problems solved! i ended up coming across a lucky post on kijiji and aside from the mother of all deals i turned it into a solution for my bag problem.

for 300 bucks i got a nice squat rack (the gem of the deal), a descent bench, and olympic EZ bar, 165 lbs in oly plates, and a frikken smith machine with a plate loaded lat tower on it. the guy lived in the middle of nowhere about 2.5 hours north of me in horse and buggy land and i jumped on the add about an hour after it went up.

so from the horizontal square tubular steel bar holding pullies for the lat tower i just picked up a couple U joints and another 6 foot long 2x4 piece of tubular steel and bobs your uncle ive got a bag stand with an amazingly strong base that wont move and i can add pullups hanging leg raises lunges and front squats between rounds. also beginning to experiment with bag work rounds while wearing my 60 lb xvest i know it has little carry over but its a good change up from farmers walks and xvest walking (shinsplints from hell)

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