Join date: Nov 2005
Aussie Davo wrote:
the champ wrote:
He's pretty funny but not much of a trainer I guess... After all, those are his pupils
No what he said is absolutely right
Some people just aren't athletic in the remotest sense and will plateau early and never improve.
I have a client like that. Found out late in his adulthood that he likes Muay Thai.
His brother is a mate of mine so he put him on to me.
Fresh off a divorce where he was told what to do and when to do it and never 'got any', he got a new lease on life with his improved financials, a trip to Thailand and an abundance of freedom.
So he decides to do privates with me 4 times a week.
Ok, I'll take your cash.
No athleticism whatsofuckingever!
BUT, he deeply believed he could fight or learn it and eventually jump in the ring.
I've seen worse than him but a fighter, he'd never be that's for sure.
No sport, no social games even.... ever! None at all in his whole childhood and teenage years.
It just does not fucking work.
Anyway he kept stressing that he wanted to fight. My answer was that I'd decide when and not him.
6 months into it, 4 times a week training and he actually showed some improvements in technique, co-ordination and strength.
Still hounding me that he wanted to fight I kept refusing.
He faked being injured and having to wait it out as per doctors requests but I knew he just wanted to gym surf to somewhere that would boost his ego. And that he did! He found a place that told him he could fight in a month and began his training there. COuple of weeks into it and he tears his groin and breaks ribs in sparring.
Put him out for 6 months (fragile bitches take longer to heal).
Anyway, nearly a year later and he wants back in.
Price went up and training will be harder.
I kept it real with this guy to make sure he doesn't get hurt. If you lull mother fuckers like the above into a false sense that they are great and awesome, they'd get their poo pushed in on the street thinking that their classes in mooooeeeyyy taaaaay are going to make them a weapon.
Best thing you can do is humiliate them and humble them into acknowledging out aloud that they are crap, obviously depending on the person not so derogatively but enough to keep them grounded.
Kids need the same too. 12-13 years old, they walk around here thinking they can fuck with anyone. I take my young kids to footy on the weekends and there's a 5 year old chucking tantrums and no one had the balls to tell him to shut up. I grabbed the little fucker and whispered a few words to him that made him shit his pants and behave.
I think it is more a question of coach-pupil relationship.
There is a socio-cultural gap between him and these "nerds", just as with an old-school korean teacher that I had.
Some of these guys might actually develop decent technique if you break it down for them step-by-step and babystep-drill the shit out of it.
I've taught clean technique to geeks and ladies who were as unathletic as it gets, it can be done, at least partly.
Of course, that doesn't mean that they could actually use it during sparring - but at least they understand what they're supposed to do and look ok when hitting a bag, in contrast to Mr.Uppercut from the video.
I suppose a guy like Eric Kelly instinctively wants to teach the advanced stuff like principles, tactics, finesse and not feel like a babysitter.
After all, motivated, athletic males get the boxing basics in 2-3 months if they train 5 times a week.