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pushmepullme
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Kalle wrote:
Marsuiz has had many different heights listed over the years.


S'cuz he squats and it shrinks you.

I'm 5'5" and while all the women I've competed against have been the same height, it's definitely easier to get a stone over a yoke at 48" when you're 6'1".

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Kalle
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pushmepullme wrote:
Kalle wrote:
Marsuiz has had many different heights listed over the years.


S'cuz he squats and it shrinks you.

I'm 5'5" and while all the women I've competed against have been the same height, it's definitely easier to get a stone over a yoke at 48" when you're 6'1".



Oh I know, Like I say i'm 5'7 on a deload week 5'6 the rest of the time. Who knows how short when training heavy yoke.....

Yeah being short the stone over 54" yoke at nats robbed me of 2 reps. I need to learn how to press stones lol

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lforrester
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At 16 it feels like you have to be winning everything right now........otherwise what's the point? ....right?........fitness in any form is a lifelong journey, years spent perfecting technique, training assisstors and ....developing will do far more for you than loading as much weight as possible and doing maximal lifts at 16!

You wondered if you will be tall enough well you haven't finished growing yet, and all these maximal lifts this early could even stunt growth, ultimately limiting your chances at any world titles! My advice would be spend the next 2 years preparing (technique work, steady strength improvements, place a focus on flexibility and core strength) then when you hit 18 you may have gained another inch or two, you will be stronger, more flexible and technique work will make the lifts easier and safer!

Then when you hit 18-19 you will be a demon ready to take the wsm by storm! You obviously have a natural talent for the sport with big lifts that young, don't spoil it by trying to do everything too soon!

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karite36
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lforrester wrote:
At 16 it feels like you have to be winning everything right now........otherwise what's the point? ....right?........fitness in any form is a lifelong journey, years spent perfecting technique, training assisstors and ....developing will do far more for you than loading as much weight as possible and doing maximal lifts at 16!

You wondered if you will be tall enough well you haven't finished growing yet, and all these maximal lifts this early could even stunt growth, ultimately limiting your chances at any world titles! My advice would be spend the next 2 years preparing (technique work, steady strength improvements, place a focus on flexibility and core strength) then when you hit 18 you may have gained another inch or two, you will be stronger, more flexible and technique work will make the lifts easier and safer!

Then when you hit 18-19 you will be a demon ready to take the wsm by storm! You obviously have a natural talent for the sport with big lifts that young, don't spoil it by trying to do everything too soon!


Thanks.

2 things though.

1. Find me one piece of medical research that postulates a negative correlation between height and lifting. The thought that it would force the epiphysis to close by way of damage, or possibly overproduction of DHT has to many holes to be believed if you understand Functional Matrixes, and that DHT is regulated, unless the use of AAS comes into question. So, no, it doesn't work like that unless I use AAS, or break the end of any long bones, or my spine, which could be a career ending injury in it's own right.

2. "Core Strength" is the stupidest term in the strength world, what your saying by that is that I should emphasize abs over everything else, which would cause an acquired lumbar kyphosis if taken to far. Balance is key. To be the "Total Athlete". Flexibility, Speed, Strength, etc all culminate to create a Pudzianowski-type athlete, and fit my philosophy. You want strong abs? Do bodyweight curls (gymnastic move), Savikas presses, and events.

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spar4tee
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lforrester wrote:
You wondered if you will be tall enough well you haven't finished growing yet, and all these maximal lifts this early could even stunt growth

<----- this guy is impressed that someone actually posted this. Good job sir.
/sarcasm

Height can be diminished as a result of spinal compression due to its fluid properties, however, the loss is marginal and barely noticeable maybe an inch at the most (probably would have a little discomfort at that point) but it is quickly remedied with hydration of the spine. There is no irrefutable evidence that the activity of lighting weights stunts growth.

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prostrongmanzack
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I would not sweat being short, no excuses, just go out and slay them all the same.

I am 5'8"

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spar4tee
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prostrongmanzack wrote:
I would not sweat being short, no excuses, just go out and slay them all the same.

I am 5'8"


Thank you Zack.

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karite36
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[quote]prostrongmanzack wrote:
I would not sweat being short, no excuses, just go out and slay them all the same.

I am 5'8"



Fucking beastly bro.

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karite36
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Fucking beastly bro.

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Painsama
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When i was 16 i was 5-10 now im 20 and 6-1.5 so dont sweat it you can still grow. As far as the leverages are concerned at your current height i dnt even know because im an aspiring powerlifter i just like cruising the different forums lol. But i would think u should just worry about what u can control like the other guy said. I have very long legs so sqauts suck for me. im a beginner and still tryna learn proper form and reaching depth. So i stretch and practice because thats what i can do, got no way of making my legs shorter lol. And u are freakin strong lol

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Kalle
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[quote]prostrongmanzack wrote:
I would not sweat being short, no excuses, just go out and slay them all the same.

I am 5'8"




Couldn't be a better reply!

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sumabeast
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height is the one variable that you con do absolutely nothing about, so no sense stressing over it. If your heart is set on a thing then go for it.
5'10 aint too bad for strongman, there have been shorter competitors at top level: Franco, Andy Stumpy Raines, and other at 5'8

i do think that if the pros continue as they have been going last few years, what i mean is competitors over 6'5 400+lbs, then they might wanna consider weight divisions on the pro level. Local amateur shows already do this.
this last WSM Poundstone faced 3 or 4 guys over 6'5 400lbs, and he was at limit of what most folks consider BIG but still within realm of normal at 6'2 350ish lbs.
what's a strongman to do?

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AntonioFlores
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i hate these threads....yes having a certain body type might help but so what???? results are what counts??? like for example maurice greene is not a typical sprinter(5f 9 and short legs) but he is one of the best of the sport

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dalle
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hey man dont sweat it , you will probably grow more, and if you dont end up with as much size as some of the freaks in this sport, focus on speed and agility etc. Like mariusz did.

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prostrongmanzack
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Height is a MAJOR advantage in strongman, especially at that level and in that class, but if you want it bad enough it will not even be a factor. Turn your weaknesses into strengths, this includes height. So long as there is not a STONE LOAD FOR HEIGHT in WSM there is a real chance for shorter guys to win.


Than again Brad Dunn is pretty short and is a BEAST at stone for height...

*-saw this thread kicking up again and thought I'd give my 2 cents.

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MAXpower92
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karite36 wrote:
lforrester wrote:
At 16 it feels like you have to be winning everything right now........otherwise what's the point? ....right?........fitness in any form is a lifelong journey, years spent perfecting technique, training assisstors and ....developing will do far more for you than loading as much weight as possible and doing maximal lifts at 16!

You wondered if you will be tall enough well you haven't finished growing yet, and all these maximal lifts this early could even stunt growth, ultimately limiting your chances at any world titles! My advice would be spend the next 2 years preparing (technique work, steady strength improvements, place a focus on flexibility and core strength) then when you hit 18 you may have gained another inch or two, you will be stronger, more flexible and technique work will make the lifts easier and safer!

Then when you hit 18-19 you will be a demon ready to take the wsm by storm! You obviously have a natural talent for the sport with big lifts that young, don't spoil it by trying to do everything too soon!


Thanks.

2 things though.

1. Find me one piece of medical research that postulates a negative correlation between height and lifting. The thought that it would force the epiphysis to close by way of damage, or possibly overproduction of DHT has to many holes to be believed if you understand Functional Matrixes, and that DHT is regulated, unless the use of AAS comes into question. So, no, it doesn't work like that unless I use AAS, or break the end of any long bones, or my spine, which could be a career ending injury in it's own right.

2. "Core Strength" is the stupidest term in the strength world, what your saying by that is that I should emphasize abs over everything else, which would cause an acquired lumbar kyphosis if taken to far. Balance is key. To be the "Total Athlete". Flexibility, Speed, Strength, etc all culminate to create a Pudzianowski-type athlete, and fit my philosophy. You want strong abs? Do bodyweight curls (gymnastic move), Savikas presses, and events.


Sounds like you are very educated, you certainly know what you're doing.

1. you are 100% right. when you reach puberty your long bones are basically done growing so you have nothing to worry about anyway. If youre lucky maybe you'll get another inch or two.

2.kyphosis is right. stay balanced.

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holyrolla56
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I'm just 5"7 . And I'm not at all concerned about it. Can't change it,just make it work youngsta

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karite36
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That feel when coming back to posts I made and feeling retarded...

Getting ready for NJs Strongest Man on Mar 16th!
Competing as a LW.

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Drake37
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Good luck! Go kick ass!

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karite36
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Thanks man, it's gonna be a goddamn breeze.

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spar4tee
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LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

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GSUbarbell
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pretty simple

height advantages
more mass
easier getting stone to platform or sandbag loading events ect
typically better deadlift if arms are long and there is alot of deadlift type events in strongman


heigh disadvantage
overheadpress is tougher with longer arms
typically tougher to squat if legs are long
harder to carry some objects due to physics of having a long torso


it pretty much evens out, but im thinking that the mass you can hold at 6'3+gives you huge advantage while staying athletic and thick compared to shorter fellas, BUT I DONT BELIEVE IN FUCKING EXCUSES

people told me i was to tall to squat good i hit 675, they told me i was to long to be thick as bodybuilder, now im thicker than guys 5'8 so shut your critics up and make no excuses on anything you have in your mind as shortcomings

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GSUbarbell
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also i have been told that alot of these guys lie about height
especially poundstone, katona, shaw look at the heights they put and notice how alot of there heights dont seem to match up
6'0 on tv may be 5'9 notoruis for lying about height

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Reed
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I am not a pro by any means but I refuse to let my height hold me back from kicking ass in the Strongman game. I'm 5'7" at best and haven't found many events my height has hurt me in. Most loading events are to 4ft platform that's only chest height being super tall here is advantages but unless your 5ft even your gonna be ok.

Anything going over head has less distance to travel, anything being picked has a shorter pick, it def easier for us to squat properly I feel you can stabilize better in the yoke.

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