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karite36
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Join date: Mar 2011
Location: New York, USA
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Hey my fellow barrel chested, car flipping, rock eating badasses, I have a question:

My gym only has up to 215lb/97.5kg stones. What could I use to help train for heavier stones, as in NAS, I need to load up to a 360lb onto a 50 inch platform.

I was thinking, beside lifting the 215 to a higher platform, but what about the lower platform?

I was thinking Zerchers, lifting the stones without lapping, and casting heavier stone; sadly, the 3rd option costs money.

Any suggestions?

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Mike T.
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Join date: Jan 2005
Location: North Carolina, USA
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What about overhead work?

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karite36
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Mike T. wrote:
What about overhead work?


That's a given, so is deadlifting, squatting, and all other events.

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spar4tee
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Join date: Sep 2010
Location: District of Columbia, USA
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Zerchers are a bet. What about continental cleans? Hip thrusters or pull through like movements?

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Shakes
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Join date: Dec 2007
Location: North Carolina, USA
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karite36 wrote:
Hey my fellow barrel chested, car flipping, rock eating badasses, I have a question:

My gym only has up to 215lb/97.5kg stones. What could I use to help train for heavier stones, as in NAS, I need to load up to a 360lb onto a 50 inch platform.

I was thinking, beside lifting the 215 to a higher platform, but what about the lower platform?

I was thinking Zerchers, lifting the stones without lapping, and casting heavier stone; sadly, the 3rd option costs money.

Any suggestions?


Heavy (strict) barbell rows or SLDL's for the pick, front squats and/or hang cleans for the loading portion.

You may want to try to travel to another gym at least once before your contest to attempt/load some 20" stones (typically in the 300-400 lbs range).

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karite36
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Join date: Mar 2011
Location: New York, USA
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Shakes wrote:
karite36 wrote:
Hey my fellow barrel chested, car flipping, rock eating badasses, I have a question:

My gym only has up to 215lb/97.5kg stones. What could I use to help train for heavier stones, as in NAS, I need to load up to a 360lb onto a 50 inch platform.

I was thinking, beside lifting the 215 to a higher platform, but what about the lower platform?

I was thinking Zerchers, lifting the stones without lapping, and casting heavier stone; sadly, the 3rd option costs money.

Any suggestions?


Heavy (strict) barbell rows or SLDL's for the pick, front squats and/or hang cleans for the loading portion.

You may want to try to travel to another gym at least once before your contest to attempt/load some 20" stones (typically in the 300-400 lbs range).


I wish I new of one in Brooklyn...

Great advice, I was more concerned with the straddle if anything, that's the part you really can't train without heavy stones.

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Shakes
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Join date: Dec 2007
Location: North Carolina, USA
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karite36 wrote:

I wish I new of one in Brooklyn...

Great advice, I was more concerned with the straddle if anything, that's the part you really can't train without heavy stones.


There are quite a few options within a 45 minute drive of where you live, do you have a vehicle or would you be relying on public transportation?

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spar4tee
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Location: District of Columbia, USA
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Shakes wrote:
karite36 wrote:
Hey my fellow barrel chested, car flipping, rock eating badasses, I have a question:

My gym only has up to 215lb/97.5kg stones. What could I use to help train for heavier stones, as in NAS, I need to load up to a 360lb onto a 50 inch platform.

I was thinking, beside lifting the 215 to a higher platform, but what about the lower platform?

I was thinking Zerchers, lifting the stones without lapping, and casting heavier stone; sadly, the 3rd option costs money.

Any suggestions?


Heavy (strict) barbell rows or SLDL's for the pick, front squats and/or hang cleans for the loading portion.

You may want to try to travel to another gym at least once before your contest to attempt/load some 20" stones (typically in the 300-400 lbs range).

Do you know of any around the DC area or near Savannah, GA?

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karite36
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Shakes wrote:
karite36 wrote:

I wish I new of one in Brooklyn...

Great advice, I was more concerned with the straddle if anything, that's the part you really can't train without heavy stones.


There are quite a few options within a 45 minute drive of where you live, do you have a vehicle or would you be relying on public transportation?


I'm 16, I obviously don't have a car.

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Shakes
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spar4tee wrote:
Do you know of any around the DC area or near Savannah, GA?


There is a gym in Herdon, VA called "The Edge" and they have a great collection of strongman equipment. Here is their website: http://trainingattheedge.com/c...

I do not know of anyone down in Savannah but if you were willing to drive a little bit I can get you in touch with some guys in the Macon area (about 3 hours each way).

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Shakes
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karite36 wrote:
I'm 16, I obviously don't have a car.


There is a NAS teen event with a 360 lbs stone? Is it the last stone in a series or a stone over bar for reps?

I will check to see if any of the gyms are accessible via train.

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karite36
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Shakes wrote:
karite36 wrote:
I'm 16, I obviously don't have a car.


There is a NAS teen event with a 360 lbs stone? Is it the last stone in a series or a stone over bar for reps?

I will check to see if any of the gyms are accessible via train.


Most shows, with the exception of silver level, don't have a Teen class because most teens don't compete anyway. So I'll be competing in the Men's Open, and the 360 is on the lowest platform (48").

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DoubleDuce
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Join date: Jul 2008
Location: Tennessee, USA
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Years back I remember reading about Mark Philippi doing plate stack rows for Atlas assistance. You put a 10 pound plate on the floor, stack 45 pound plates on top of it then bend over, grip the bottom 45 and do bent over rows like you would with a barbell.

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spar4tee
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Shakes wrote:
spar4tee wrote:
Do you know of any around the DC area or near Savannah, GA?


There is a gym in Herdon, VA called "The Edge" and they have a great collection of strongman equipment. Here is their website: http://trainingattheedge.com/c...

I do not know of anyone down in Savannah but if you were willing to drive a little bit I can get you in touch with some guys in the Macon area (about 3 hours each way).

Thanks. I'll look into it.

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Chad Coy
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Join date: Apr 2003
Location: Indiana, USA
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Go on the NAS site and email WILLIE or DIONE they could direct you to someone closeto you....stacking the plates and rowing is good gym option.....get a sand bag...sand is cheap and any army surplus store will have a duffle bag...you can actually make it loadable by using smaller bags...lift it long ways as and that will be like a bigger stone....nice thing is there is not tacky clean up!

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DoubleDuce
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Location: Tennessee, USA
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Aw hell, my post got edited for linking to a forbidden site. I had posted the actual phillippi article.

Here is a copy and paste of the article on a non-competitive site:

savagefitnessandselfdefense.yuku.com/topic/313?f=1#.TwcCMPJ53X4

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karite36
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DoubleDuce wrote:
Aw hell, my post got edited for linking to a forbidden site. I had posted the actual phillippi article.

Here is a copy and paste of the article on a non-competitive site:

savagefitnessandselfdefense.yuku.com/topic/313?f=1#.TwcCMPJ53X4


I read that article a WHILE back (when I had no idea about training). Some of that stuff is ok, but a snatch for the keg toss? I don't know what they think a snatch is, but it's a VERY different move.

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Kalle
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Join date: Feb 2006
Location: California, USA
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karite36 wrote:
DoubleDuce wrote:
Aw hell, my post got edited for linking to a forbidden site. I had posted the actual phillippi article.

Here is a copy and paste of the article on a non-competitive site:

savagefitnessandselfdefense.yuku.com/topic/313?f=1#.TwcCMPJ53X4


I read that article a WHILE back (when I had no idea about training). Some of that stuff is ok, but a snatch for the keg toss? I don't know what they think a snatch is, but it's a VERY different move.



a muscle snatch? Seems like the best gym lift to use to me.....

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karite36
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Kalle wrote:
karite36 wrote:
DoubleDuce wrote:
Aw hell, my post got edited for linking to a forbidden site. I had posted the actual phillippi article.

Here is a copy and paste of the article on a non-competitive site:

savagefitnessandselfdefense.yuku.com/topic/313?f=1#.TwcCMPJ53X4


I read that article a WHILE back (when I had no idea about training). Some of that stuff is ok, but a snatch for the keg toss? I don't know what they think a snatch is, but it's a VERY different move.



a muscle snatch? Seems like the best gym lift to use to me.....


A keg toss is in an arc, while a snatch is vertical.

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spar4tee
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karite36 wrote:
Kalle wrote:
karite36 wrote:
DoubleDuce wrote:
Aw hell, my post got edited for linking to a forbidden site. I had posted the actual phillippi article.

Here is a copy and paste of the article on a non-competitive site:

savagefitnessandselfdefense.yuku.com/topic/313?f=1#.TwcCMPJ53X4


I read that article a WHILE back (when I had no idea about training). Some of that stuff is ok, but a snatch for the keg toss? I don't know what they think a snatch is, but it's a VERY different move.



a muscle snatch? Seems like the best gym lift to use to me.....


A keg toss is in an arc, while a snatch is vertical.

A muscle snatch would require a backwards lean to get the bar overhead otherwise you'll knock yourself out. The same muscles are used in a similar manner.

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gogetit
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Join date: Dec 2011
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karite36 wrote:
Hey my fellow barrel chested, car flipping, rock eating badasses, I have a question:

My gym only has up to 215lb/97.5kg stones. What could I use to help train for heavier stones, as in NAS, I need to load up to a 360lb onto a 50 inch platform.

I was thinking, beside lifting the 215 to a higher platform, but what about the lower platform?

I was thinking Zerchers, lifting the stones without lapping, and casting heavier stone; sadly, the 3rd option costs money.

Any suggestions?




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TheEdge2.0
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Join date: Jan 2012
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[quote]Shakes wrote:
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
Do you know of any around the DC area or near Savannah, GA?[/quote]

There is a gym in Herdon, VA called "The Edge" and they have a great collection of strongman equipment.

Thanks for the shout OUT Shakes....we've got some great things happening at the Edge this month: We have our members training to participate in the HAMPTON VA SPORTS EXPO Strongman Contest, and we are hosting the 1st "World's Strongest Man Trainer Certification" Program. Our fellow Strongman and WSM 2011 Competitor Nick Best is teaching! Be sure to check it out !!

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spar4tee
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TheEdge2.0 wrote:
Shakes wrote:
spar4tee wrote:
Do you know of any around the DC area or near Savannah, GA?


There is a gym in Herdon, VA called "The Edge" and they have a great collection of strongman equipment.

Thanks for the shout OUT Shakes....we've got some great things happening at the Edge this month: We have our members training to participate in the HAMPTON VA SPORTS EXPO Strongman Contest, and we are hosting the 1st "World's Strongest Man Trainer Certification" Program. Our fellow Strongman and WSM 2011 Competitor Nick Best is teaching! Be sure to check it out !!

Any events planned for this summer? I checked your site and haven't seen anything listed for the rest of 2012. I go back to school next week on the same day as the certification program.

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Shakes
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TheEdge2.0 wrote:
Thanks for the shout OUT Shakes....we've got some great things happening at the Edge this month: We have our members training to participate in the HAMPTON VA SPORTS EXPO Strongman Contest, and we are hosting the 1st "World's Strongest Man Trainer Certification" Program. Our fellow Strongman and WSM 2011 Competitor Nick Best is teaching! Be sure to check it out !!


No problem Barry - this is Tom Mutaffis.

Will try to make it up that way for at least one Virginia/Maryland contest later this year.

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