Men of genius do not excel in any profession because they labor in it, but they labor in it because they excel.—William Hazlitt

I heard a definition of genius in 2010 that's made me question the concept. But it boils down to genius not being a talent as much as it's a passion.

Genius knows no boundaries, but the wise do and they are wise for knowing what bounds their intellect.

-DB Cooper

...and here I thought that real men of genius were the ones portrayed in the Bud Light commercials.

Smart does what it can, Genius does what it must

Oh wow

Interesting study purporting to show that boys with an IQ above 130 had significantly lower testosterone levels than boys of average intelligence:

http://majorityrights.com/...pubertal_iq.pdf

IMO limits are what whiners worry about.

Genius has its limits stupidity has none...lol

[quote]DBCooper wrote:
[quote]bassist127 wrote:
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
Genius knows no boundaries, but the wise do and they are wise for knowing what bounds their intellect.

-DB Cooper [/quote]


There are no limits to what someone can achieve, but there are limits to what someone already knows. Perhaps you missed that distinction. My point is that it is important that, while we may be able to achieve anything, we don't KNOW everything and we will never KNOW everything.[/quote]

Limits to what one already knows? There is no limit to what you know. What do you mean by limit? I think what you are trying to say is there are limits to knowing everything, because we don't have the kind of brain power that is able to know everything there is to know plus there is always new findings say in the natural sciences. A human being is not in the position to have universal knowledge. Even Geniuses like Einstein didn't possess a knowledge of what the sciences of his time entailed, true he was a ground breaker in his field, but everything in physics? I doubt that. Just like the American linguist Noam Chomsky knows pretty much everything there is to know as it stands currently in linguistics he will be the first to admit that his knowledge of medical sciences is lacking. THe problem with these kinds of discussions is that they are not specific enough from the get go. But yeah they do get us into thinking.

[quote]silee wrote:
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
[quote]bassist127 wrote:
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
Genius knows no boundaries, but the wise do and they are wise for knowing what bounds their intellect.

-DB Cooper [/quote]


There are no limits to what someone can achieve, but there are limits to what someone already knows. Perhaps you missed that distinction. My point is that it is important that, while we may be able to achieve anything, we don't KNOW everything and we will never KNOW everything.[/quote]

Limits to what one already knows? There is no limit to what you know. What do you mean by limit? I think what you are trying to say is there are limits to knowing everything, because we don't have the kind of brain power that is able to know everything there is to know plus there is always new findings say in the natural sciences. A human being is not in the position to have universal knowledge. Even Geniuses like Einstein didn't possess a knowledge of what the sciences of his time entailed, true he was a ground breaker in his field, but everything in physics? I doubt that. Just like the American linguist Noam Chomsky knows pretty much everything there is to know as it stands currently in linguistics he will be the first to admit that his knowledge of medical sciences is lacking. THe problem with these kinds of discussions is that they are not specific enough from the get go. But yeah they do get us into thinking. [/quote]

Rather, the issues with these and any discussions whatsoever is that they are exercises of language conducted via language- they are attempts to step outside of language with language and are consequently meaningless.

Correlation is not causation in the apparent High IQ/Low testosterone theory.
Maybe Bookworms don't have time for good diets and exercise....I've known dumbasses
that don't have time for good diets and exercise as well and I'm sure they have Low T
because at least one told me he needs boner pills to satisfy wifey.

[quote]TyroneSlothrop wrote:
[quote]silee wrote:
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
[quote]bassist127 wrote:
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
Genius knows no boundaries, but the wise do and they are wise for knowing what bounds their intellect.

-DB Cooper [/quote]


There are no limits to what someone can achieve, but there are limits to what someone already knows. Perhaps you missed that distinction. My point is that it is important that, while we may be able to achieve anything, we don't KNOW everything and we will never KNOW everything.[/quote]

Limits to what one already knows? There is no limit to what you know. What do you mean by limit? I think what you are trying to say is there are limits to knowing everything, because we don't have the kind of brain power that is able to know everything there is to know plus there is always new findings say in the natural sciences. A human being is not in the position to have universal knowledge. Even Geniuses like Einstein didn't possess a knowledge of what the sciences of his time entailed, true he was a ground breaker in his field, but everything in physics? I doubt that. Just like the American linguist Noam Chomsky knows pretty much everything there is to know as it stands currently in linguistics he will be the first to admit that his knowledge of medical sciences is lacking. THe problem with these kinds of discussions is that they are not specific enough from the get go. But yeah they do get us into thinking. [/quote]

Rather, the issues with these and any discussions whatsoever is that they are exercises of language conducted via language- they are attempts to step outside of language with language and are consequently meaningless.
[/quote]

I agree with you about the specificity of these type discussions... and with your Chomsky remark and yeah they do get us thinking...

But i specifically like your remark about language, sounds Wittgensteinian to me. Or I think it could be put this way, when we attempt to step outside of language we enter into metaphysics. We can relate to what is being said but we can never have any confirmation of that. That's my metaphysical take here... lol