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scottkoscielniak
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Join date: Oct 2011
Location: Maryland, USA
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As I look over the forums I cant help but feel this rage creeping in when I see certain things. I just wish certain things would never be said anymore in a powerlifting forum. I know you guys feel the same way so please chime in with things better left out of a powerlifting forum.

For me:

The term Butt-wink... ok we cant find anything manlier then the term butt-wink. It just give the mental imagery of someones chocolate starfish winking at you. Can someone with a better imagination please reword this action. Low back curve just sounds soo much better

Adding shit that like it is gear that really does not matter...For example
Deads
315x2
365x2
Added chalk
405x1

really, added chalk? If your not "adding chalk" to deadlifts at some point you just should play in traffic. Same thing with "added wrist wraps" Just stick to adding things that really make a difference like briefs, bench shirt, squat suit with or without straps up...

Finally terms like ATG squat. I hate this, why cant it be just a squat. If you break parallel then it passes and is called a squat. You do not get a 4th white light for your taint grazing the floor. When someone asks about my total I never heard the question "how low was your squat" even though my reply would be "my balls tea-bagged the devils forehead, that how low" I just never got this question. Its either I got 500 or missed it.

feel free to add on!

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T3hPwnisher
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Join date: Feb 2007
Location: California, USA
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Calling depth on gym squats

Calling depth on youtube videos not from an official angle

Any "gear vs raw" debate

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scottkoscielniak
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and another, if you have never done a meet you do not have a total. Gym lifts dont count in the sport of powerlifting. I squatted 495 in the gym and missed 501 at my meet...they didnt give me 495 on my score card because I did that in the gym.

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KyleKeough
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Location: Iowa, USA
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My theory is that a good percentage (read: NOT all) of the people who do chalkless deadlifts, ATG squats, and bench presses with both hands tied behind their back are justifying their mediocrity to themselves by increasing the difficulty of an exercise rather than getting stronger. Because so what if Donnie Thompson squats 1265 high in a quadruple-ply suit; I bet he can't no-no-no-no-no squat 135 ATG with perfect technique and abs like me, right?

But none of this stuff is ever going to be eliminated, because it is so engrained into the online powerlifting community. This will probably end up being nothing more than a public airing of grievances, but I've got my popcorn ready and I'm looking forward to it.

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gurbob
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Location: Kansas, USA
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The word "Core". die plz.

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scottkoscielniak
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KyleKeough wrote:
My theory is that a good percentage (read: NOT all) of the people who do chalkless deadlifts, ATG squats, and bench presses with both hands tied behind their back are justifying their mediocrity to themselves by increasing the difficulty of an exercise rather than getting stronger. Because so what if Donnie Thompson squats 1265 high in a quadruple-ply suit; I bet he can't no-no-no-no-no squat 135 ATG with perfect technique and abs like me, right?

But none of this stuff is ever going to be eliminated, because it is so engrained into the online powerlifting community. This will probably end up being nothing more than a public airing of grievances, but I've got my popcorn ready and I'm looking forward to it.



I started this to be an airing of grievances on purpose. I figured we can all have a little fun with this.

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frankjl
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Referring to every single lift of yours as "raw" and "natural". The over whelming majority of lifters are both raw and natural, so it's not like you're doing anything special in that regard.

Saying conjugate system / West Side is for geared lifters only, because the extra layers of supportive material make such a big difference on your bodies response to training stimulus.

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frankjl
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frankjl wrote:
Referring to every single lift of yours as "raw" and "natural". The over whelming majority of lifters are both raw and natural, so it's not like you're doing anything special in that regard.

Saying conjugate system / West Side is for geared lifters only, because the extra layers of supportive material make such a big difference on your bodies response to training stimulus.


Also, any 5/3/1 threads. Not that I have anything against the program (or Jim or anyone who uses it), I just feel like it's the simplest program in the world to do and it's been beaten to death. It's. Not. That. Hard.

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T3hPwnisher
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Referring to your lifts as "RAW" rather than "raw".

Unless you lift in 100% RAW, there is no need for that.

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tattoo'd'popeye
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Location: Missouri, USA
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- people who think ammonia is needed for every single accessory lift. Hang on, gotta get a hit before I bust out my 4 pull up max singles.

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KyleKeough
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Not necessarily a T-Nation forum thing, but I'll pile on: people who promote themselves as world-record holders after setting the WAPLFA 114-lb. Masters III Novice record in the strict curl amuse me.

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infinite_shore
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Anything related to multiply lifting. Just ask Kirk K.

Am I doing it right?

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kgildner
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Eww, chocolate starfish?

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VTBalla34
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Location: District of Columbia, USA
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KyleKeough wrote:
Not necessarily a T-Nation forum thing, but I'll pile on: people who promote themselves as world-record holders after setting the WAPLFA 114-lb. Masters III Novice record in the strict curl amuse me.


Don't be hatin on the strict curl now! Its about the only powerlifting event I am good at.

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detazathoth
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Join date: Jan 2007
Location: Massachusetts, USA
Posts: 5499

I enjoy every one of these recommendations except infinite shore's.

Eliminating these things will incentive others (definitely me) to want to post more in here.

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leafs2
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Location: Ontario, CAN
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Not T-Nation but other forums, Downplaying a lifters success based on body composition (height, body fat etc..). Heavy weight is heavy weight.

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csulli
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Location: Tennessee, USA
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Lol. That OP was fuckin funny. Spot on too.

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The3Commandments
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The "look at how fat that guy deadlifting 800+ pounds is!!" stuff is literally so stupid that I have a hard time imagining anyone over the age of 18 saying it.

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Caltene
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scottkoscielniak wrote:
As I look over the forums I cant help but feel this rage creeping in when I see certain things. I just wish certain things would never be said anymore in a powerlifting forum. I know you guys feel the same way so please chime in with things better left out of a powerlifting forum.

For me:

The term Butt-wink... ok we cant find anything manlier then the term butt-wink. It just give the mental imagery of someones chocolate starfish winking at you. Can someone with a better imagination please reword this action. Low back curve just sounds soo much better

Adding shit that like it is gear that really does not matter...For example
Deads
315x2
365x2
Added chalk
405x1

really, added chalk? If your not "adding chalk" to deadlifts at some point you just should play in traffic. Same thing with "added wrist wraps" Just stick to adding things that really make a difference like briefs, bench shirt, squat suit with or without straps up...

Finally terms like ATG squat. I hate this, why cant it be just a squat. If you break parallel then it passes and is called a squat. You do not get a 4th white light for your taint grazing the floor. When someone asks about my total I never heard the question "how low was your squat" even though my reply would be "my balls tea-bagged the devils forehead, that how low" I just never got this question. Its either I got 500 or missed it.

feel free to add on!


Adults like you that don't know the difference between "your" and "you're".

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anonymous_burn
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Join date: Dec 2010
Location: Pennsylvania, USA
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People who point out other peoples' trivial grammar mistakes.

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Fletch1986
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Join date: Aug 2007
Location: Texas, USA
Posts: 4861

anonymous_burn wrote:
People who point out other peoples' trivial grammar mistakes.


That would be people's not peoples'! If you wanted to use the apostrophe that bad at the end you should have said persons'. :)

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marlboroman
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Join date: Jun 2006
Location: Wisconsin, USA
Posts: 1382

hahahaha

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browndisaster
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A lot of the really good information here gets diluted by all the bs posts:

-people at my strength level giving advice. How so-and-so got his squat from 185 to 225 isn't useful. I'm ok with being humble and coming here to ask questions instead of answering them
-5/3/1 questions...put them in the big 5/3/1 thread or don't ask them. It'd be nice if mods would delete 5/3/1 threads
-butthurt over using straps, chalk, wraps, belts, etc...as long as I'm not taping tennis balls behind my knees, who cares. Now that I ignore that BS advice I handle heavier weights and am not getting hurt.

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shffl
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Join date: Dec 2007
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Posts: 304

Reading a couple articles and thinking they know everything there is about gaining strength.

Oh, and the inflated egos.

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t.collin.smith
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Join date: Feb 2013
Location: Georgia, USA
Posts: 83

Yes! Things like this piss me off. Not really a lifting term, but I hate the saying "it is what it is..." No shit.
Oh and giving anything over 100%

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