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Painsama
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Just saw a video and apparantly Derrick Poundstone deadlifted 405 36 times. I have heard a lot about hi rep sqauts and the gains they yield but does anyone ever do hi rep deads? If so could u share some of your experiences/records/ gains.

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redroast
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Deadlift for reps is sometimes one of the strongman events, I think that is why he trains that. If its the video I think it was, there was a "gym competition" last year on long island where the money was for as many reps with 405 as possible. He walked in and took the cash.

So I guess it depends what your goals are. Do you want to get better at deadlifting a light weight for max reps or do you want to get better at pulling max weight. As this is the powerlifting forum, I would have to think it's the latter.

I suppose high reps would work to increase your 1 rep max in the deadlift, but I can think of better ways to improve it than doing 20 reps with a light weight.

Oh, and I have done max reps deadlifts in strongman competitions with relatively light weight. To me its a test of conditioning, not of strength. I suppose its pretty much the same for high rep squats.

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Bmacres
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I like to do them with rack pulls. It adds a good amount of mass to my upper back and gets the forearms pretty good as well. More of a bodybuilder's perspective but effective nonetheless. I have heard that high rep deadlifts are good for conditioning the CNS, though I can't quote anybody.

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pushharder
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On a whim a few months ago I strayed from my usual diet of doubles and triples and knocked out 17 at 385. It kicked my ass for over a week. Yes, my CNS was whining for over seven days.

I really, really think a 8 or 10 x 3 or even 15 x 2 is a much better route for building mass and strength.

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grettiron
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High rep deads are a good time, nothing more IMO. Certainly wouldn't do them more that once or twice per month, max.

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RCKM5K
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I've got no reason to train high rep deads but have ocassionally tried them...

My fear is that with high reps on deads (assuming the last few reps are close to failure) is that fatigue could lead to shitty form and injury...

For me reps don't correlate as stonrgly to my one rep max for dl as they might on other lifts...

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ouroboro_s
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At the same time Push did them, I did too. It was 1.75 x body weight for 20. It was for nothing more than shits and giggles. I would never do something like that near a meet.

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HARA
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Hi rep deads are a good way to safely see "what gives first"

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DoubleDuce
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I've essentially been doing boring but big assistance. 5 sets of 10 at 50%-ish of max (I've been going lighter on the deads). Even though it's light, it's challenging. Bruises the crap out of my shins. But it seems to work well, I'm definitely getting stronger.

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StormTheBeach
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What a pussy. I did 315 for 58.


High rep deadlifts strength your taint matrix. This matrix includes your balls.

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DoubleDuce
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StormTheBeach wrote:
What a pussy. I did 315 for 58.


High rep deadlifts strength your taint matrix. This matrix includes your balls.


lol. What can you do with 405?

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daraz
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A guy pulled twice a week for a while and eventually did 700 and he competed under 200, real strong but got banned

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gurbob
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58 reps....dayumn! id have gotten bored.

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CrewPierce
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redroast wrote:
Deadlift for reps is sometimes one of the strongman events, I think that is why he trains that. If its the video I think it was, there was a "gym competition" last year on long island where the money was for as many reps with 405 as possible. He walked in and took the cash.

So I guess it depends what your goals are. Do you want to get better at deadlifting a light weight for max reps or do you want to get better at pulling max weight. As this is the powerlifting forum, I would have to think it's the latter.

I suppose high reps would work to increase your 1 rep max in the deadlift, but I can think of better ways to improve it than doing 20 reps with a light weight.

Oh, and I have done max reps deadlifts in strongman competitions with relatively light weight. To me its a test of conditioning, not of strength. I suppose its pretty much the same for high rep squats.


Agreed with the statement that it tests your conditioning not strength.

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CrewPierce wrote:
redroast wrote:
Deadlift for reps is sometimes one of the strongman events, I think that is why he trains that. If its the video I think it was, there was a "gym competition" last year on long island where the money was for as many reps with 405 as possible. He walked in and took the cash.

So I guess it depends what your goals are. Do you want to get better at deadlifting a light weight for max reps or do you want to get better at pulling max weight. As this is the powerlifting forum, I would have to think it's the latter.

I suppose high reps would work to increase your 1 rep max in the deadlift, but I can think of better ways to improve it than doing 20 reps with a light weight.

Oh, and I have done max reps deadlifts in strongman competitions with relatively light weight. To me its a test of conditioning, not of strength. I suppose its pretty much the same for high rep squats.


Agreed with the statement that it tests your conditioning not strength.


So a more conditioned athlete can pull more reps with 700lbs than a stronger athlete?

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CrewPierce
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StormTheBeach wrote:
CrewPierce wrote:
redroast wrote:
Deadlift for reps is sometimes one of the strongman events, I think that is why he trains that. If its the video I think it was, there was a "gym competition" last year on long island where the money was for as many reps with 405 as possible. He walked in and took the cash.

So I guess it depends what your goals are. Do you want to get better at deadlifting a light weight for max reps or do you want to get better at pulling max weight. As this is the powerlifting forum, I would have to think it's the latter.

I suppose high reps would work to increase your 1 rep max in the deadlift, but I can think of better ways to improve it than doing 20 reps with a light weight.

Oh, and I have done max reps deadlifts in strongman competitions with relatively light weight. To me its a test of conditioning, not of strength. I suppose its pretty much the same for high rep squats.


Agreed with the statement that it tests your conditioning not strength.


So a more conditioned athlete can pull more reps with 700lbs than a stronger athlete?


Me thinks you missed the "light weight" in there. If you load a bar with 225 and have two 200 pound guys pull it for max reps, yes the better conditioned one will pull more reps.

Prime example, I did a Crossfit meet and despite the fact that I could out deadlift the other guys in the competition by 200 pounds those little fuckers beat me on reps. Their conditioning was simply better than mine.

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RCKM5K wrote:


My fear is that with high reps on deads (assuming the last few reps are close to failure) is that fatigue could lead to shitty form and injury...

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I dont deadlift huge weight but..... the 2 times ive ever actually strained my lower back was doing high rep deadlifts with a mixed grip.

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Field
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CrewPierce wrote:


Prime example, I did a Crossfit meet and despite the fact that I could out deadlift the other guys in the competition by 200 pounds those little fuckers beat me on reps. Their conditioning was simply better than mine.


I would be interested in extra detail on this.

You guys HAd to have been doing a sht ton of deadlifts in order for you to not win something like that.

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CrewPierce
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Field wrote:
CrewPierce wrote:


Prime example, I did a Crossfit meet and despite the fact that I could out deadlift the other guys in the competition by 200 pounds those little fuckers beat me on reps. Their conditioning was simply better than mine.


I would be interested in extra detail on this.

You guys HAd to have been doing a sht ton of deadlifts in order for you to not win something like that.

I can deadlift 600, the guy who won never went heavier than 405

They put 225 on the bar and I did 53 or 54 reps before time ran out and the guy who won did 61

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Proto Man
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im a big believer in deadlifting for reps. maybe not 36, but definitely sets of 8, 10, 12, 15...they've done wonders for my deadlift max and overall size and strength. oh yeah, and they're great for your nutsack too.

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MattyG35
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I think high rep deadlifting would be preferable for RDLs, and not max effort style of lift, if you get what I mean. The whole purpose of high rep squats or high rep dumbbell rows is to build mass, so I think a movement where the eccentric can be controlled should be preferred.

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winston43
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high reps des over 10 repseven 8 . are not useful . beter do hyperextensions . with a light barbell on the regular extension bench not the 45 degrees.

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BecometheFuse
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Using the BBB template for 531, I do high rep deads after my heavy squat sessions, and do the high rep squats after my heavy deadlifts. Has been working great for me.

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gorangers0525
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winston43 wrote:
high reps des over 10 repseven 8 . are not useful . beter do hyperextensions . with a light barbell on the regular extension bench not the 45 degrees.


So false.

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