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BigMbot
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Which is better, the titan series or the Rage X?
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robo1
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titan
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Hanley
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robo1 wrote:
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Lol!!!
For single ply gear, Titan is the market leader. Inzer are probably ahead multiply tho.
From reading your other thread it appears you're new to all this, so single ply, and thus Titan, is probably what you want.
Get an F6.
I have an F6 and Katana of the same size (44, I'm 100kg) and can touch 35ish kg less in the F6 and still get great support (140kg versus 175kg)
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BigMbot
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Haha, yea everything is new to me.
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novaeer
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I don't know where in the state you live, but if you're new to powerlifting and living in Connecticut, you should consider going to Southside Barbell in Milford. Check out EliteFTS for information. That gym is full of strong and knowledgeable folks.
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BigMbot
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Really, I had no idea southside was in CT, but yea I live in bethel.
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Matt
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BigMbot wrote:
Which is better, the titan series or the Rage X?
I don't think that can be answered by anyone other than you. I am a Titan shirt guy for sure. Most of my partners use my old Titan shirts. We found out last night that one of them does better in a RageX that he acquired than Titan. RageX doesn't do shit for me, but the Fury I get a ton out of.
I say you need to try shit out to see what works for you.
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NASAKYCHAIRMAN
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BigMbot wrote:
Which is better, the titan series or the Rage X?
A few great reasons to buy an INZER RAGE X:
1. Stretchy-Back makes the Rage X more effective and easier to get into.
2. Great carry-over from the bottom of the bp to the top of the bp.
3. This type of material allows the shirt to last longer than other bp shirts.
4. Extra Reinforced front shoulder seams add support and security for this radical design.
5. Rage X will boost your confidence because you'll be able to handle more than you ever did before.
6. You'll notice an instance increase in your bench press.
7. The biggest bp has been done in the Inzer Rage X!
TRAIN HARD
"BIG WILLIE" J.T. HALL
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W.E.C
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Truth is they are pretty similar.
The RageX and the F6 are probably the closest match, with the Fury being a bit better for flatter archers and the Katana being a stiffer material.
As Matt said, you'll have to take them for a run to see what works best.
As a first shirt though, any of them will do fine.
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LSUPOWERDC
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if you are new to equipment, i would recommend using a titan fury because titan shirts aree a bit more forgiving and will teach you how to use a a shirt....if you can, get hand me downs of both and try them out, then decide for yourself
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BigMbot
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W.E.C wrote:
Truth is they are pretty similar.
The RageX and the F6 are probably the closest match, with the Fury being a bit better for flatter archers and the Katana being a stiffer material.
As Matt said, you'll have to take them for a run to see what works best.
As a first shirt though, any of them will do fine.
Yes, I would like to try out shirts, but I dont know anyone who uses them.
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jackreape
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Lots of great info in this thread...
-Inzer is for sure better and more experienced in double ply and open back shirts.
-Titan is for most a better single ply closed back option.
-You need to train, get strong, then get some shirts and practice in the shirt. Yeah, practice! As Louie Simmons says, there is a shirt and a bottle of test on his dresser and they can't lift anything.
-Some folks do better in one shirt than the other. Sometimes changing gear can be a huge mental help. And sometimes it doesn't work.
Some other thoughts:
-Denim is great if you have great tricep strength but poly gives less pop of chest but more lockout help, although newer shirts like rage x and katanas make the difference much less of chest.
-My Katana takes about 50lbs more to touch than the same size (stock) F6. The F6 takes about 25lbs more than a same size Fury. Katana is a great shirt but has small margin of error. i open in an F6 and do second and third in a Katana.
-Titan stuff breaks in much faster but doesn't last as long as a meet shirt. Sleeves are smaller in comparable size Rage x.
jmo
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futurepharm
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Just because I'm curious, in a bench shirt do you actually have to PULL the bar down to your chest to go all the way down?
I just have no experience with it and would like to know.
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BigMbot
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Im not expirienced either, but from what Ive read on here that it is very difficult to get the weight down to your just, it even leaves cuts and bruises, but Im not sure if you PULL it.
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TimZ
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futurepharm wrote:
Just because I'm curious, in a bench shirt do you actually have to PULL the bar down to your chest to go all the way down?
I just have no experience with it and would like to know.
From my experience DON'T pull the bar. My partner almost dropped 405 on his face when it came out of the groove on his katana.
Titan:
Single ply Katana all the way. 150 lbs of carry over
old f6 still gets 110 lbs
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jackreape
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futurepharm wrote:
Just because I'm curious, in a bench shirt do you actually have to PULL the bar down to your chest to go all the way down?
I just have no experience with it and would like to know.
In denim or a double poly open back maybe you need to pull it down, but you need an experienced bencher to show you that.
For most, instead of pulling the bar down, they need to flare the lats(fires them and gives better bar bath stability, tuck the elbows(correct groove and takes some tension out of chest plate), then try to stick sternum up to meet bar. If you lift head off bench to help touching, you MUST NOT round the shoulders forward.
Benching used to be the easy lift between squat and deadlift, no wit is the most technical.
A pain in the ass, until those white lights come on and you are hugging your lift off guy!
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quagmeyer
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What does everyone think is best: Inzer double Phenom or Inzer dbl denim?
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Stronghold
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Iv got a 42 single ply katana with a scooped neck. Im thinking that once I get it to touch (its a hell of a shirt) I will be looking at 100+ lbs of carryover out of it (400+ lbs). Definitely sold on these shirts and the amount of support through the entire lift is awesome.
I cant handle enough weight in it to be able to avoid pulling the bar down though, like I said, its a hell of a shirt.
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Frank.S
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100lbs out of a katana isn't great carryover. Its better then nothing, but I assure you once you learn the shirt you can get a whole lot more then that.
Ive used plenty of katanas and rage-xs. IMO
titan is ahead in the singleply gear
inzer has the slight nod in multiply. But its still close.
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Frank.S wrote:
100lbs out of a katana isn't great carryover. Its better then nothing, but I assure you once you learn the shirt you can get a whole lot more then that.
Ive used plenty of katanas and rage-xs. IMO
titan is ahead in the singleply gear
inzer has the slight nod in multiply. But its still close.
Well...considering my raw bench is just under 300, 400 is a pretty decent jump. I hope youre right about getting a lot more out of it though.
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UHCougar05
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quagmeyer wrote:
What does everyone think is best: Inzer double Phenom or Inzer dbl denim?
Well, I've never used the Phenom, but I have used the DD and I only get about 90lbs out of it. The Phenom will help more with the lockout than the DD will. The DD usually gives out at about 3-4 board height (At least mine does).
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slattimer
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quagmeyer wrote:
What does everyone think is best: Inzer double Phenom or Inzer dbl denim?
Double phenoms are low performing shirts. Get the Super Phenom if you want to go poly. Denims are great too, but you have to get the radical cut to get decent top end support.
Super Duper Phenom is pretty much the best multiply shirt on the market right now.
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slattimer
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Rule of thumb on bench shirts:
Modern single poly's are equivalent in carryover to the double denim shirts.
Modern double poly's will generally exceed the performance of any denim.
Single poly--If you are at least 198 pounds and not getting at least 100 pounds carryover, you are not doing it right or the shirt doesn't fit. Good benchers in single poly should be able to get 200 pounds carryover.
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AllerCuzine
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I think that inzer rage x is just as good as the f6 and the fury. I have seen people get between 150-200 out of a stock rage x and people get less out of the titan stuff. I have used a phenom single ply and got around 100lbs out of the shirt but that is hard to do and the shirt doesn't last, don't buy a phenom. It is also my experience that the titans are harder to learn and less forgiving.
In the end the it comes down to finding the best shirt to fit your style of benching. Talk to some of the more knowledgeable people in your gym or go to south side.
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Steel Nation
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AllerCuzine wrote:
I think that inzer rage x is just as good as the f6 and the fury. I have seen people get between 150-200 out of a stock rage x and people get less out of the titan stuff. I have used a phenom single ply and got around 100lbs out of the shirt but that is hard to do and the shirt doesn't last, don't buy a phenom. It is also my experience that the titans are harder to learn and less forgiving.
The Katana is harder to learn. The F6 is cake.
I have no experience with Inzer gear but I like my F6 just fine.
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