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The Pencil Neck wrote:
I'm not a big fan of the "principle of muscle confusion" but if it works for you, great. Knock yourself out. OTOH, I'm not a bodybuilder or going for bodybuilding types of results. But, when did Horton come up with that principle? I ask because it's been one of Weider's Principles since the 60's.
I'm not sure where or when Horton came up with the principle of muscle confusion, that's just where I heard it. I've been working it for eight weeks plus and have another three weeks to go, plus a week off. That will take me to the end of February.
Now, granted, if you do the same workout every time, your body acclimates. But isn't that acclimation a good thing. That's your body responding to the stress. If you do a single workout, your body won't acclimate and you're not going to get stronger. If you don't do the same workout multiple times, then your body doesn't really adapt.
I understand what you are saying here. I worked out there that principle was the result and I did get results as well.
What you're looking at as a good thing, the amount of time it takes before you don't feel it anymore, is something that I consider a bad thing. For the first couple of years I was working out, I believed that I could judge how good my workouts were based on how sore I was and how LONG I was sore. But in those years, I didn't make a lot of progress.
I hear what you are saying. I am under the impression that you are to constantly feel it. Which I assume is the reason for the week off every three weeks, to allow for the healing. I'm still waiting to determine my progress at the end of the training routine. You may be right, and now that you have brought it to my attention I will be looking hard at the results.
Then I tried Korte's 3x3 program where you squat, bench, and deadlift 3x a week. That first week, I was the sorest I'd ever been. I thought I was going to have to stop doing the routine. But after that first week, I adapated. And I wasn't sore the rest of the routine and I made more progress on my squat than I'd made prior to that.
Now this Korte's 3x3 program does interest me. I will be doing a power and strength routine in March and this maybe just what I need. I have in the past had difficulties with my bench press because of an old shoulder problem, which has improved a lot. So I would very interested in hearing more on it. Are you saying squat, bench and deadlifts three times a week. And is it a max out or progressive workout.
Now, I'm not a big proponent of Korte's 3x3 for powerlifters because I don't think it places enough stress on heavy lifts and there's too much volume. But it did teach me a lot about how to schedule workouts and set me on the path that I'm on today. And, except for this recent routine where I'm trying something very different with volume and scheduling, I'm never sore and I make progress.
I'm not a powerlifter or bodybuilder per say. I need power and strength in my legs. I believe my legs are full of slow twitch fibers. They won't get big, which funny as it may sound is very good for what I do. I'm not worried about putting on size since my legs really are not that big. So I'm all ears on any advice on working legs.
Now, what I'm saying here seems to really fit in with a lot of what Dr. Siff wrote in Supertraining. Especially his graphs on the responses to training.
This Dr. Siff's Supertraining is it in the forums or a book. Thanks Pencil Neck.
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