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Sooner03
Level 5

Join date: Jun 2011
Location: Oklahoma, USA
Posts: 178

  • Age: 21
  • Height (inches): 76
  • Weight (pounds): 204
  • Occupation: Student
  • Primary fitness goal: Lose fat
  • Secondary fitness goal: Gain muscle
  • Calories consumed on training days: 3000
  • Calories consumed on non-training: 2250
  • Carb grams consumed on training days: 150
  • Carb grams consumed on non-training days: 75
  • Days per week I train: 5
  • The time of day I train is: Noon/mid-afternoon
  • When I train, my gym is: Not crowded
  • I have access to the following pieces of equipment: Bands

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Sooner03
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Join date: Jun 2011
Location: Oklahoma, USA
Posts: 178

Hey guys,

LONG time lurker here that finally decided to take the plunge and try Indigo. I've been an avid reader of T-Nation for around 2 years and have lifted regularly since I was 17.

I don't drink milk, eat any carbs besides rice, potatoes, and the occasional oatmeal and fruit. I've been a long time low carber aside from my periworkout nutrition and am really excited to up my carbs a LOT to try and get bigger while maintaining my current level of body fat. Being a long time lurker I have read tons of stuff by Chris about the evils of most carbs and I feel great after keeping them away from my diet for the past 6ish months. I feel like I've really got my periworkout nutrition nailed and I have a spot on diet.

I'm currently doing some Intermittent Fasting while leaning up for spring break. I've gone down from a really big (for me) 225lbs to my current 205lbs in the past 3 months and really like the level of leanness and vascularity I've achieved. Not to mention clothes fit me much better since I'm 6'4" and even at 225 had a 32inch waist! I basically "pulse" leucine throughout the day in two 5-10g pulses, and have a really large meal after my periworkout nutrition (about dinner time).

This is pretty much CT's pulse feast method without going through tubs and tubs of MAG-10. I really don't want to give up IF in it's entirety due to the great effects I feel it can have for long term health and insulin response. I do want to get all I can out of Indigo though, so I am more than willing to split it up into 2 meals and my periworkout stuff.

I can't think of much more to post and have to run to class soon... Pictures will go up later today when I find some batteries for my camera. Glad to join the phenomenon that is Indigo, this should be fun = P

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HawaiiTunya
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Join date: Aug 2007
Location: Hawaii, USA
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Aloha Sooner,

Welcome to the Indigo 'ohana'.

Sounds like you have a great base with which to start but I have been posting this in the new logs, hope it helps. :-)

Helpful Hints:

1. Don't wait to up your carbs
2. Get rid of any unhealthy carbs...keep them all clean
3. Get rid of wheat; though not a requirement, but most of us have switched over to gluten free products and recipes. A lot of us use rice based cereals like Cream of Rice or Rice & Shine; some use Cream of Buckwheat, or even Quinoa flakes.
4. Get rid of dairy/milk and switch over to Unsweetened Almond Milk or Unsweetened Coconut Milk, both are AWESOME!
5. Be leary of too much Oatmeal as the Avenin in it will have the same affect as the gluten does in wheat
6. Don't drink any form of Tea (Red, Black, White, Green) this will block the effects of Indigo-3G.
7. Don't take any concentrated forms of greens like Superfood, etc.
8. You don't need to take a fat burner while using Indigo-3G
9. Start saving money up now because you'll need to buy new clothes
10. Enjoy the ride...you'll want to just keep going, but be aware of how your body is feeling. A lot of us learned early on that Indigo-3G allows us to just keep going and we did, but then we fried our CNS. We have all since learned to take a break from time to time and do some Neural recharging type workouts.
11. Ask lots of questions over in the LiveSpill.
12. (like BiP says) Get lots of good quality sleep.
13. (like BiP says) Use Neural Charge workouts - you could devote one day a week to them, doing 1 or 2, or once every could of months do an entire week of NC only, or neural charge and high frequency strength work
14. (like BiP says and I totally agree) Drink 1-2 scoops Power Drive post workout, especially after NC workouts. Very good for neural recovery

Oh yeah...BTW

15. (Worth mentioning again) There is a guy on Indigo that you have to be leery of, especially be careful when you open up his log, he goes by Hip Scar. He seems like a nice enough person, nothing really abnormal about him except well ... he takes a lot of 'black box' pictures. Make sure you're in a location that other people cannot view your screen.
16. Another member to be watchful of is seph89 he is a little bit out there and always is spouting off BBBBBRRRRRAAAAAIIIIINNN CAAANNNNDDYYYYYYY and at times can give TMI. :-)
17. Oh yes...fruit...only eat it early in the morning's.
18. Drop all forms of 'fruit' juices. Full of sugar's.

Come over to the daily Live Coaching lab as there is a ton of amazing information shared every day; along with the the information we tend to spill lots of antics, razzing general harassment of our fellow teammates...all in good fun.

Again, welcome to the 'ohana'.

Tunya

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Chris Shugart
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Welcome aboard! Be sure to hit us with any questions you may have in the daily "Live Coaching" Training Lab on the front page of TNation. We'll be sure to see them there.

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Sooner03
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Join date: Jun 2011
Location: Oklahoma, USA
Posts: 178

Pictures as promised. Just finished my peri-workout stuff so my stomach feels like it's about to explode! Ha. All pointers or advice are encouraged. Never posted anything on a forum before so I'm all in.

Indigo-3G is coming in on Friday, I'm taking Saturday and Sunday off to take the gf out and let myself rest before hitting it hard with Indigo-3G the next week. I will post periworkout nutrition in more detail and some more info once I get the 3g and start lifting with it. Thanks to all that look and happy lifting!

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Sooner03
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Sooner03
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Join date: Jun 2011
Location: Oklahoma, USA
Posts: 178

Indigo came in early this morning! I just couldn't wait until Monday with it sitting on my shelf so I went in for a light full body workout since I'm recovering from an upper respiratory infection and wow.... I felt like I could go all day. Upped my periworkout nutrition and really had awesome pumps and a good lift. Starting CT's Hypertrophy I program on Monday should be a good ride. For the remainder of Indigo I will be using roughly these periworkout parameters (Adjusting based on how I feel and what I'm seeing in the mirror regarding size and leanness):

Now I know what is optimal but I've made the best of what I can with my limited college student budget... Biotest supps are far and away the best but student loans and a part time job make it tough to afford all I want. Feel free to point me different ways if my substitutes are off...

-70mins from workout: 4 caps Indigo

-20mins from workout: 35g Myofusion protein, 5g arginine, 3g taurine, 3g creatine mono, 5g leucine, 30g ric oligodextrin, 20g dextrose, banana

During workout: 2 scoops MAG-10, 6 grams dicreatine malate

20-30 mins after workout: 35g Myofusion protein, 25g rice oligodextrin, 30g dextrose, 5g leucine, 3g creatine mono


I was pretty vascular before this, coming off a stint of great intermittent fasting and fat loss... but post indigo I am blown away. I had shoulder vascularity before but I'm already seeing some in my abs and even in my delts and triceps. I guess this stuff wasn't just hype!

I worked out around 10am. Afterwards, today's lunch consisted of (Indigo 60mins before):
4 whole eggs, 2 whites
Large bowl of broccoli, cauliflower, and carrots
Very lean pork chop found in the fridge
Handful of raw almonds
4 unsalted rice cakes (28g carbs)
1/2 cup steel cut oats, with dash of cinnamon, a few pecans, and a tbsp of nat PB. (54g carbs)

Going out with the girlfriend tonight to Genghis Grill. That should be fun with Indigo in the system... bring on the rice! I appreciate any pointers/critiques any of you Indigo vets have or anyone in general.

More descriptions of workouts and actual lifts along with any other supplements taken when I truly start the program Monday.

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Sooner03
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Join date: Jun 2011
Location: Oklahoma, USA
Posts: 178

Today's food choices: (still trying the the 16/8 intermittent fast w/Indigo)

10g Leucine 7:30am

Lunch- (1:00pm)
4 caps Indigo-3G 60 mins prior
Lean pork loin
Broccoli & Cauliflower mix
Boiled white potatoes (Approx 115g carbs)
1 tbsp natty PB
1 mini sized Reeses cup (Couldn't resist it.... damn candy bowl at my parent's house)
2g fish oil, 2,000 IU Vit D, 1g vit C, 3g milk thistle, 5g Leucine

Dinner- (6:30pm)
4 caps Indigo-3G 50 mins prior
Stir fry (1 Zucchini, 1/2 Green bell pepper, 2 jalapenos, 6 whole eggs) sauteed in coconut oil
1/4 lb Venison patty (Grilled)
11 Rice cakes (7g carbs per, 7*11=77g carbs)
Rice cakes dipped into mix containing: 1/8c coconut flour, 1 scoop vanilla protein, & almond milk
2g fish oil, 2,000IU Vit D, 1g Vit C, 3g milk thistle, 5g Leucine

2g Zinc taken right before bed. (I love vivid dreams)

Did ab workout and 12 jumps this morning during the fast, along with a small yoga session and lots of stretching. Also did some yard work rolling and laying sod.

Beginning Hypertrophy 1 program tomorrow. Really looking forward to getting started.

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Sooner03
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Location: Oklahoma, USA
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Been pretty busy lately but tried to write down everything from the past few days. Loving the indigo so far... Eating 300g+ carbs a day and getting leaner. It's nice to look and feel "full" rather than the flatness I've gotten accustomed to doing low carb.

I had a hard time getting weights right in the hypertrophy program since I had no idea what my 12RM was. I also wasn't used to the explosive type lifting on the HFSW for so many reps. 4 days into it though I'm loving the results.

Monday workout: Bench Pattern
A. Military Press - 105x3x10
B. Front Squat - 135x3x10
C. Bench Press - 195x3x10
D. Floor Press - 195x4x8, 185x8-4-2
E1. Squeeze Press - 50x3x8
E2. Wide-grip Bench Press - 135x3x8
F1. DB Power Flies - 50x3x8
F2. Bodyweight Dips - 3xmax
Abs and 10 mins cardio post-workout (3.4mph walk at 10% incline)
14 jumps done throughout, mostly in between HFSW sets

Tuesday workout: Squat Pattern
A. Military Press - 105x3x10
B. Front Squat - 135x3x10
C. Bench Press - 195x2x10 , 205x1x10
D. Leg Press - 400x4x8, 400x8-4-2 (weight is arbitrary here, it differs so much on different machines for me)
E1. Lunges/Alternating Legs - 40x3x8 (40lbs each hand)
E2. DB Squat - 40x3x8
F1. Leg Extensions - 200x3x8
F2. Bodyweight Squats - 3 x max
Abs and 14 jumps done throughout

Wednesday workout: Structural Lats/Biceps
A. Kayak Row - 100x3x6/side
B. Straight arm pulldown (Rope) - 45x3x8
C. Lat Pulldown (Supinated) - 160x3x8
D. DB Pullover - 65x3x8
E. DB Hammer Curl - 45x3x8 Active Rest - tricep extensions
F. Preacher Curl - 90x3x8 AR - DB Tricep Extension
G. Seated DB curl double low contraction - 30(per arm)x3x8 AR - Close grip pushups
Abs and 14 jumps down throughout

Thursday workout: Overhead Press Pattern
A. Military Press - 105x3x10
B. Front Squat - 135x3x10
C. Bench Press - 195x3x10 235x1x5
D. Seated BB shoulder press - 135x4x8, 135x8-4-2
E1. Seated DB lateral raises - 30/arm x 3 x 8
E2. Seated DB front raise - 25/arm x max
E3. Cuban Press - 20/arm x max
F1. Restart DB lateral raise - 30/arm x 3 x8
F2. Standing DB lateral raise - 30/arm x max
Abs and 14 Jumps done throughout. AR hammer curls done throughout

I've been experiencing increased work capacity and can handle my active rest much easier. I'm usually pretty gassed by the end of each workout but Indigo has me ready and willing to go at it the next day. I'm a little sore in the shoulders because of the HFSW which I'm not used to, but it's nothing consistent stretching and some foam rolling won't cure.
Weight is up about 3 lbs in 5 days, which I'm attributing to being "fuller" because of all the carbs. I'm seeing veins in my lats and quads which has NEVER happened before.

Diet has stayed fairly consistent, I haven't had anything bad but unfortunately didn't write down my meals monday and tuesday. Here's Wednesday's and today's info:

Wednesday:

Periworkout-
Pre - 25g Myofusion, 5g leucine, 5g AAKG, 3g creatine mono, 3g taurine, 25g dextrose, 25g rice oligodextrin
Intra - 2 scoops MAG-10, 5g dicreatine malate, 20g dextrose
Post - 25g Myofusion, 5g leucine, 3g creatine mono, 25g dextrose, 30g rice oligodextrin

Lunch - 2 tilapia filets pan seared, asparagus, 30g carbs steel cut oats, 70g carbs of rice cakes (indigo 50 mins prior)

Dinner - Stir fry containing 4 whole eggs, 2 chicken breasts, large zucchini, half large bell pepper. Large sweet potato, 6 rice cakes (42g carbs). Slice of flax seed protein bread with sugar free strawberry preserves for desert. Indigo 50 mins prior

Thursday:

Periworkout (Same as above.) Indigo 45 mins prior

Lunch- 1/2 lb venison, 12 rice cakes (84g carbs), spinach

Dinner - TBD. Probably identical to stir fry from last night

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BobFather5
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Join date: Mar 2003
Location: Nebraska, USA
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Hey Sooner! Huge Husker fan here, but Sooners are my #2, if NU can't win it all I cheer for OU! Anyway, had to stop by and wish you well on your Indigo trip, follow the programs and you will succeed like never before. Looks to me like you have an outstanding base to build on! Will be following your progress!

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Sooner03
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Location: Oklahoma, USA
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I appreciate it, man! Have to say, the Husker fans I've been around in years past at games are some of the classiest, most intelligent fans I've seen. It's always a great game, but too bad we won't see another match up for a while = /

Super busy with exams so I will try and post when I can. My diet stayed clean over the weekend. Lots of chicken, rice, and veggies. Keeping carbs around the 250-300 range. I weighed in at 210 after only ONE week on Indigo. That's a solid 6 lbs in 6 days! Also, both arms have grown 1/2" and both quads are up 1". I plan on doing some updated pics after 2-3 weeks.

Still following the Hypertrophy I program and did an arm spec workout on Day 6. I'll get back to more detailed entries once these pesky exams are done.

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HawaiiTunya
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Sooner03 wrote:
I appreciate it, man! Have to say, the Husker fans I've been around in years past at games are some of the classiest, most intelligent fans I've seen. It's always a great game, but too bad we won't see another match up for a while = /

Super busy with exams so I will try and post when I can. My diet stayed clean over the weekend. Lots of chicken, rice, and veggies. Keeping carbs around the 250-300 range. I weighed in at 210 after only ONE week on Indigo. That's a solid 6 lbs in 6 days! Also, both arms have grown 1/2" and both quads are up 1". I plan on doing some updated pics after 2-3 weeks.

Still following the Hypertrophy I program and did an arm spec workout on Day 6. I'll get back to more detailed entries once these pesky exams are done.


Sounds like you're getting some great progress.

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Sooner03
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Started week 2 of the program today and felt great. A NC workout and jumps yesterday really had me feeling electric and ready to go. Food choices today were:

Meal 1: 2 Chicken breasts, 115g white rice, big spinach salad, small bite of natural PB
Meal 2: 2 chicken breasts, 49g carbs rice cakes with sugar free preserves (so a few more incidental carbs), and some green beans. Also a handful of raw almonds
Periworkout: MAG-10, 125g of dextrose and rice oligodextrin, and scoop of whey in almond milk about 20 mins after the workout

Meal two was approx 75 mins after the workout.

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Sooner03
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Thanks, HT!

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Sooner03
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Did squat pattern workout today per the program. I was able to do everything except for the 4th set of bench press. I'm guessing I was still worn out from the pressing yesterday. Other than that everything felt great.

Meal 1: Chicken breast, tuna, steel cut oats (75g carbs), rice cakes (28g carbs), spinach
Meal 2: 1/2 large zucchini, 1 cup broccoli, 1/2lb 95/5 beef, 3 eggs, 3 small baked potatoes (90ish g carbs?)
Periworkout: 2 scoops MAG-10, 115g carbs. 35g whey 20 mins after workout, meal 2 approx 75 mins after workout

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Sooner03
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Been a little lax on the log lately, super busy with school unfortunately. Shock week is fun but man the workouts are long! Seeing a slight stall in weight gain/fat loss but that's to be expected after such a fast initial change. Still pushing carbs around 300g+ and enjoying the carbed up workouts. I'll try and get some 3 week pictures up this weekend and post diet stuff when I can.

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Sooner03
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For some reason I had an extra pill sitting in the bottom of the bottle yesterday so I took 5 Indigo and bumped my periworkout nutrition up to about 145g of carbs. The pumps were insane. Shock week is kicking my butt right now.. in a good way! I'm loving it.

Weight is still about 208. I don't feel like I'm leaning out quite as much in my stomach and lower back as much as I am in the arms, shoulders, and legs but that is to be expected.

Yesterday's meals were:

Meal 1 - 1.5 cups rice (135g carbs), 7 eggs (4 whole, 3 whites)
Periworkout (mentioned above) 1 scoop anaconda, 2 scoops MAG-10, 145g carbs
Meal 2 - Large sweet potato, 4 rice cakes (28g carbs), 2 chicken breasts, 1 tbsp natural pb

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Sooner03
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3 week progress pic (Didn't work out today so I feel a little less "full" but I'm happy with the results thus far)

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Sooner03
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Today's rice flour experiments: (obviously already got into the bread)

Vanilla protein powder and pecan bread with cinnamon on top
Unsweetened cocoa blueberry muffins
PB2 and oatmeal cookies

These all tasted great! Replaced the butter with coconut and olive oil, sugar with splenda, added a little more eggs and some protein powder to most of them, etc. Every serving works out to 10-15g carbs and about 10g protein. Great way to get in my indigo carbs without the monotony!

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Sooner03
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Location: Oklahoma, USA
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Peak week bench press pattern today: (Weighed in at 212 lbs)

Bench Press - 235 x 3 x 6
Military Press - 130 x 3 x 6 140 x 1 x 5 (extra set because I felt good and explosive)
Front Squat - 175 x 3 x 6

Floor Press - 215 x 2 x 8 , 215 x 2 x 8-4-2

Superset 1:
Squeeze Press - 45 x 3 x 12
Wide Grip Bench Press - 135 x 3 x 12

Superset 2:
Power Fly - 45 x 3 x 12
Dips - 3 x max

Felt pretty good and energized after the workout so I threw in a bicep superset: (10 secs between exercises, 60 seconds between sets)

Reverse Cable Curl - 4 x 12
Wide Grip Cable Curl - 4 x max
Narrow Grip Cable Curl - 4 x max

12 mins treadmill walk postworkout @ 10% incline, 3.5mph


Meals today: Indigo 60 mins prior to breakfast, lunch, and periworkout

Breakfast: 100g carbs rice, 6 eggs (4 whole, 2 whites), spinach

Lunch: 1 large chicken breast, rice cakes (77g carbs), 1 tbsp natty pb, 1 tbsp PB2 mixed into shake with 30g whey.

Periworkout: 2 MAG-10, 1 ANACONDA, 115g carbs

Dinner: 45-60 mins after finishing the workout
1/3 lb ground venison, large helping of carrots and green beans, 7 rice cakes (49g carbs)

Approx 350g carbs today. I'm not super worried about protein and fat. I eat a good piece of meat or eggs at every meal and when I cook I do it in coconut oil. I figure I'll give Indigo-3G the nutrients and let it do the rest since I don't have the time to stress over my macros with school and work right now.

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Sooner03
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I feel like my shoulders and lats have really developed over the past 3 weeks. Someone close to me that sees me a lot said I was getting a new look. When I asked about it they said I looked more athletic and powerful... Hooray recognition!! All vanity aside, loving the Indigo-3G experience. I'm gaining weight and muscle without gaining fat.

Really working on my jumps and explosiveness and I must say I feel much more athletic and powerful all day long. I was able to stuff a basketball 2 handed for the first time since freshman year of college the other day.. while weighing about 20 more lbs than I did then. I'm begging my gym owner to buy a set of rings and a new bar. We'll see how that goes!

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Sooner03
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Finished up the Hypertrophy 1 program today. I was really happy with the results. I'm up to 214 lbs and really feel like I'm getting better at my explosiveness. It took some time for me to get used to quitting while still having quite a bit in the tank.

10 lbs in a month with only a little bit of BF gain is very impressive. I plan to add some sprinting and steady state cardio to compensate for no prowler while pushing carbs and cals up in the next month to try and hit 220-225 by mid-May when I start my internship.

Today's nutrition:

Breakfast 7am (4 caps Indigo-3G 60 mins prior) - 6 eggs (4 whole), spinach, 1 cup white rice (~100g carbs)

Periworkout nutrition, 12pm, 4 caps Indigo 60 mins prior: 2 MAG-10, 1 ANACONDA, 115g carbs

Lunch (60 mins after workout; about 2:30pm) - 2 chicken breasts, 7 rice cakes (49g carbs)

Dinner 7pm, 4 caps Indigo-3G 60 mins prior - 1/2 lb ground beef (93/7), 1.25 cups white rice (125g carbs), handful of almonds

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Sooner03
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Everything is still going well, up to 216 lbs. Here is Monday and Tuesday's workouts as well as today's food:

Monday - Bench Pattern
Military Press - 105x3x8
Back Squat - 205x3x8
Bench Press - 205x3x8

Close Grip Bench Press - 175x4x8 175x1x8+4 (Range drop set on the last one)

Decline Bench Press - 195x3x8
No rest to Decline DB flies - 40x3x10

Incline DB Press - 80x3x8 SUPERSET Incline DB power flies - 35x3x10

Tuesday - Squat Pattern

Military Press - 105x3x8
Back Squat - 205x3x8
Bench Press - 205x3x8

DB Squat (Heels elevated on 25lb plates) - 100lbs 4x8, 4x8+4 (range drop)

Bulgarian Split Squat - 30lbs/hand 3x8 SUPERSET Leg Extension single leg 3x8

Leg Press - 350x3x8 SUPERSET Body weight squats 3xMAX


Squats were pretty light but felt great being more explosive and not grinding out reps.


Breakfast - 7 eggs (4 whole), spinach, 1 Cup Rice (100g carbs)
Lunch - 2 Chicken Breasts, 7 rice cakes (49g carbs), large sweet potato
Snack - Protein shake (50g whey), slice of rice bread (~20g carbs) with nat PB and sugar free preserves
Periworkout - 2 scoops MAG-10, 1 scoop ANACONDA, 100g carbs
Post WO meal - Turkey, broccoli, 7 rice cakes (49g carbs)

5g Leucine before every meal, 4g fish oil throughout the day, 2g vitamin C, 5000 IU Vit. D

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Sooner03
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Also did 25 mins fasted steady state cardio this morning, abs, and 14 jumps throughout both workouts.

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