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JGrace55
Level 10

Join date: Feb 2010
Posts: 118

  • Age: 18
  • Height (inches): 75
  • Weight (pounds): 235
  • Occupation: Student
  • Primary fitness goal: Gain muscle
  • Secondary fitness goal: Improve performance
  • Calories consumed on training days: 3000
  • Calories consumed on non-training: 3000
  • Carb grams consumed on training days: 250
  • Carb grams consumed on non-training days: 250
  • Days per week I train: 3
  • The time of day I train is: Morning
  • When I train, my gym is: Crowded
  • I have access to the following pieces of equipment: Prowler/Sled, Large tire, Bands

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JGrace55
Level 10

Join date: Feb 2010
Posts: 118

I recently got my first shipment of Indigo-3G and have been trying to plan my meals in a way that allows for maximum effect.

How many grams of carbs should I have per day? And at what times?
I am currently taking Indigo-3G at 630 (before breakfast), 1215 (lunch), and 400 (workout)

Need to gain 1-2 lbs/month for the next year.

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JGrace55
Level 10

Join date: Feb 2010
Posts: 118

The survey must have reset at some point. I train 7 days/week in the afternoon in a non-crowded gym

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HawaiiTunya
Level 10

Join date: Aug 2007
Posts: 4711

Aloha JGrace,

Welcome to the Indigo 'ohana'. Look forward to seeing where you go with your Indigo experience.

Make sure to come over to the Live Coaching Lab. Here is the link for today's Spill: http://www.T-Nation.com/...ing-topics/1796 ... if you have any questions the Coaches and your other teammates are there to lend a hand. Try to ask your questions on the Spill as the Coaches don't always make it to the logs. :-)

At the top of each Spill are instructions, sometimes a mini-article and several helpful links to get you started in the right direction.

Again, welcome aboard.

Tunya

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Barachiel
Level 10

Join date: Sep 2008
Posts: 961

Welcome to the ohana Jgrcae.

Be sure to read the links that Chris left in your other log, It should answer many of your eating questions. any thing you are unclear about post up here or in the Live Spill and we will all pitch in to help.

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Chris Shugart
Director of Content

Join date: Oct 2002
Posts: 17379

Good to see your log up!

Indigo Resources:


Store Page and Autoship Info

Original Indigo-3G Article

What To Expect

Basic Carb Guide

Things to Avoid While on Indigo-3G

Long Term Usage Strategies

5 Tips for New Indigo Users

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JGrace55
Level 10

Join date: Feb 2010
Posts: 118

Ok, quick update. A typical day for me looks like:

6:00-Indigo-3G

7:15-Ten eggs (scrambled) and Two servings hull-less barley (68g carbs)

10:30-FINiBAR (41 g Carbs) and Almonds

12:00-Indigo-3G

1:30-Ground Bison and Two Servings Converted White Rice (68g carbs)

4:00-Indigo-3G

4:40-Begin peri-workout (2 scoops ANACONDA, 45g carbs)
6:30-End peri-workout (26g carbs)

8:00-Chicken/Tilapia, Vegetable (Broccoli/Brussel Sprouts), Black Beans

11:00- Casein

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JGrace55
Level 10

Join date: Feb 2010
Posts: 118

Haven't noticed much of a change, but that is to be expected

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JGrace55
Level 10

Join date: Feb 2010
Posts: 118

A little more definition in the arm maybe?

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JGrace55
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Join date: Feb 2010
Posts: 118

Good Back shot

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JGrace55
Level 10

Join date: Feb 2010
Posts: 118

While I've added about 300 extra carbs to my super-low carb diet, I dropped a couple of pounds. Will that weight come back pretty quickly?

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Anechoic
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Join date: Jul 2008
Posts: 576

Hey JGrace, nice to see your log up here.

As for the guick drop in weight, that is normal. Most of us have experienced it early on. The weight will pile on pretty quickly if you keep on training and eating smart.

Don't go crazy about the weight though. Best would be to use measurements and overall increase in strength and performance. Notice how certain clothes will fit you in the coming weeks. Those are the main things to look out for, rather then scale weight.

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JGrace55
Level 10

Join date: Feb 2010
Posts: 118

Anechoic, thanks for the response!

That's great to hear. While I agree that the scale is a less useful arbiter of success, I will be a college football player the fall of 2013 and, sadly, the scale matters a lot in their eyes. I need to go in at about 245-250, so I need about a 20 lbs of lean muscle gain in the next year.

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JGrace55
Level 10

Join date: Feb 2010
Posts: 118

No pictures today. But weighing about 233. Did some measurements:

Thigh 25
Calf 16.25
Bicep 15
Forearm 13
Neck 16.75
Chest 43.75
Shoulders 51
Waist 37
Hips 38

My legs are terribly undersized and I'm working on that. One thing that came out in my measurements was that my right arm is much smaller than my left arm. I kind of expected this but I wanted to know how I can fix it ASAP.

Thanks for any advice!

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JGrace55
Level 10

Join date: Feb 2010
Posts: 118

I'm gonna try and post some pictures either tonight or tomorrow afternoon. However, I had a question: I'm about three weeks in and really haven't seen a terrible amount of improvement (especially in my love handles).

I recently looked into Kiefer's Carb Back Loading strategy and was wondering if it would work well with Indigo? It would seem like an optimal combination to me, but I have been wrong many times before, and I don't want to spend the money on an e-book if I won't be using it.

Thanks for any help in advance!

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JGrace55
Level 10

Join date: Feb 2010
Posts: 118

Ok, quick food list and typical day of eating:

Wakeup (8:00)-Indigo-3G
Meal 1 (9:00)-10 eggs, 1.5 cups Barley (60g Protein, 51g Carbs)
Meal 2 (11:00)-Chicken/Steak, 1.5 cups Converted White Rice (50-60g Protein, 45g Carbs)
Indigo-3G (1:00)
Meal 3 (2:00)-Chicken/Steak, 1.5 cups Converted White Rice (50-60g Protein, 45g Carbs)
Indigo-3G (4:00)
Meal 4 (peri-workout: 400-630)-ANACONDA, FINiBAR, After Glow, Re-Grow (80g Protein, 130g Carbs)
Meal 5 (8:00)-Chicken/Steak, Brussel Sprouts/Broccoli (50-60g Protein)
Meal 6 (11:00)-Casein (50g Protein)

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JGrace55
Level 10

Join date: Feb 2010
Posts: 118

Food list

Protein:
Chicken
Steak
Ground Bison
Salmon (occasionally)

Carbs:
Converted White Rice
Sweet Potatoes
Barley
Steel Cut Oatmeal

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Chris Shugart
Director of Content

Join date: Oct 2002
Posts: 17379

I don't know what a couple of those supplement are. Your timing looks good with Indigo. Most foods choices are solid, though many who avoid wheat also avoid barely (same category, contains gluten etc.) Not a "rule" to avoid that with Indigo, just something many have had success with, including me. Something to tweak if you need to. Buckwheat is a better sub. You could use some healthy fats in there too. Nothing wrong with meat and eggs, but maybe add some fish oil like Flameout or other good fats like FA3, or just add some foods with a wider variety of the good stuff.

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JGrace55
Level 10

Join date: Feb 2010
Posts: 118

Alright awesome. Thanks for your help!!! I'll try and make those changes ASAP. Would it be better for me to order Flameout or FA3? I've never really understood the difference

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HawaiiTunya
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Posts: 4711

JGrace55 wrote:
Alright awesome. Thanks for your help!!! I'll try and make those changes ASAP. Would it be better for me to order Flameout or FA3? I've never really understood the difference


I would go with Flameout; difference between the two is that FA3 is organic virgin coconut oil, certified organic olive oil, and borage oil. Flameout is made from a highly concentrated fish oil.

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Chris Shugart
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Join date: Oct 2002
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Most people are lacking in omega-3's, so I too would choose Flameout if getting only one, then try to eat more foods with the other types of fats found in FA3, which is a bit easier: olive, coconut, etc.

Here's the full info:

Flameout: http://www.t-nation.com/...ts/flameout.jsp

FA3: http://www.t-nation.com/...lements/fa3.jsp

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JGrace55
Level 10

Join date: Feb 2010
Posts: 118

Ok, ordered some Flameout over the weekend. Should be getting here soon

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JGrace55
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Join date: Feb 2010
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Thought I'd post what I've eaten so far today for critique:

815 Indigo
900 9 oz Sirloin, 1 cup converted rice
1100 30 g whey, 1 tbsp all natural peanut butter
1215 turkey bacon, chicken, 1.5 cups brown rice
Will dose Indigo again at 200

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JGrace55
Level 10

Join date: Feb 2010
Posts: 118

Ok, I came off full dose of Indigo recently and am just starting a new training cycle.

I will still be using Indigo however and would like a place to log my workouts, so I thought I'd start anew.

Age: 18
Height (inches): 75
Weight (pounds): 232
Occupation: Student
Primary fitness goal: Gain muscle/Improve Squat
Secondary fitness goal: Improve Standing Overhead Press
Calories consumed on training days: 4000
Calories consumed on non-training: 3500
Carb grams consumed on training days: 300
Carb grams consumed on non-training days: 300
Days per week I train: 7
The time of day I train is: Afternoon
When I train, my gym is: Busy (not terrible though), also have access to a more basic gym that would be completely open
I have access to the following pieces of equipment: Prowler/Sled, Large tire, Bands

Recent One Rep Maxes:
Bench: 405
Squat: 455
Press: 185
Deadlift: 545
Row: 225

However, I just came off a pulled hamstring that sidelined me for a couple weeks and am being forced to move my bench grip much narrower. I will be doing a 5s cycle... So, I plan to use "working maxes" of:

Bench 325x5
Squat 360x5
Row 200x5
Press 155x5
Deadlift 430x5

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JGrace55
Level 10

Join date: Feb 2010
Posts: 118

Beginning on Monday (07/23/2012):

Squat (5x5)
170-210-250-295-335

Bench (5x5)
150-190-225-265-300

Row (5x5)
95-115-140-160-185

Auxiliary-QUADS
Bulgarian Split Squat (10, 3x12)
60 lbs

Single-Leg Extensions (4x8)
160 lbs

Triple DROP Hack Squat (8 reps)
3-2-1 Plates

Heel-Elevated Ski Squat (Wall Sit)
20 seconds then move down ~2 inches (x5)

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