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Apoklyps
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flipcollar wrote:
Apoklyps wrote:
akmcsnarfy wrote:
...........and i win


If you've already won, you can race me to a 405 x 10 deadlift (no straps).


Is this a real challenge you're doing? I've never hit 405 for max reps, but I've hit 365 for 15 I think. My guess is I'd probably tap out around 8 right now. I'll try it tonight.


Ish. It was from a T-Nation article (http://www.T-Nation.com/free_online_article/most_recent/deadlift_challenge_405_x_10) and I figured I was close enough to give it a shot sometime within the next few months.

That's pretty close. I did 177.5kg (=391lbs) x 11 last week, but with straps on the last 3 reps, so I think I could probably get about 7 without straps.

As far as TnG vs deadstop, I don't really care lol. I'm doing deadstop, but it doesn't really matter because it's an accomplishment whichever way you get it.

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flipcollar
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Apoklyps wrote:
flipcollar wrote:
Apoklyps wrote:
akmcsnarfy wrote:
...........and i win


If you've already won, you can race me to a 405 x 10 deadlift (no straps).


Is this a real challenge you're doing? I've never hit 405 for max reps, but I've hit 365 for 15 I think. My guess is I'd probably tap out around 8 right now. I'll try it tonight.


Ish. It was from a T-Nation article (http://www.T-Nation.com/free_online_article/most_recent/deadlift_challenge_405_x_10) and I figured I was close enough to give it a shot sometime within the next few months.

That's pretty close. I did 177.5kg (=391lbs) x 11 last week, but with straps on the last 3 reps, so I think I could probably get about 7 without straps.

As far as TnG vs deadstop, I don't really care lol. I'm doing deadstop, but it doesn't really matter because it's an accomplishment whichever way you get it.



I did this deadstop last night, no straps. Got to 5, and probably could have gotten an ugly 7, but since I wasn't going to hit 10 for sure, went ahead and stopped the set. THE RACE IS ON

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Apoklyps wrote:
akmcsnarfy wrote:
...........and i win


If you've already won, you can race me to a 405 x 10 deadlift (no straps).


I don't pull conventional but you can DL and I'll snatch DL with straps haha

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Apoklyps
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Alrighty, time for my update:

Today was 5/3/1+ day for the deadlift, and the weight coincidentally just happened to be 185kg (408lbs). I managed 8 reps without straps, then threw in a 15s rest/pause while I put on straps, and ground out another rep.

Very happy with my performance today (yes, I know I programmed my DL training max a little low lol). At this rate I should be able to hit it in 1-2 mesocycles.

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LoRez
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Bump.

Besides Apoklyps and Flip and me, is anyone from this thread even on this site anymore?

Does anyone else want in?

I'm a couple months or so away from a 315 squat. Turns out 20-rep squats don't translate at all to singles.

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Apoklyps
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Hah sure, I'll be in. Deadlift stagnated and I kind of quit deadlifting for awhile, so we'll see when I get around to that 405 x 10. Been focusing on other goals. Bench is up to probably 275ish (my best guess), so it's slow, but it's coming. I want to get 315+ in comp by November. I've been rebuilding my squat from the ground up, working on high bar squatting exclusively for awhile, so I'll be in on that for 5 x 5 x 315 high bar. I did 7 x 5 x 130kg last Friday.

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Massthetics
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in for deadlift.

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1 Man Island
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sorry bud, I'm still on my cut. I was going to transition off, but pulled a hamstring, so I'm cutting for at least another month.

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I will be in. I have an end of year goal of 1000 lb total from my 5RMs. How do we do this? Give a month to month progress update?

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jbpick86 wrote:
I will be in. I have an end of year goal of 1000 lb total from my 5RMs. How do we do this? Give a month to month progress update?


I have no idea. Just updating whenever you get a PR should work.

I'll still be updating things in the normal PRs thread though.

I guess this thread is sort of "I'm working toward a 315-based goal and here's my progress".

My deadlift should be above 315 by now. My bench isn't at 225 yet. But my squat has a bit of time to get there.

315 rep PRs can go in here too.

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LoRez
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Apoklyps wrote:
I'll be in on that for 5 x 5 x 315 high bar. I did 7 x 5 x 130kg last Friday.


Ugh... switching units on me. Have to pull out the calculator, lol.

(It's 286 for anyone else wondering.)

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LoRez wrote:
jbpick86 wrote:
I will be in. I have an end of year goal of 1000 lb total from my 5RMs. How do we do this? Give a month to month progress update?


I have no idea. Just updating whenever you get a PR should work.

I'll still be updating things in the normal PRs thread though.

I guess this thread is sort of "I'm working toward a 315-based goal and here's my progress".

My deadlift should be above 315 by now. My bench isn't at 225 yet. But my squat has a bit of time to get there.

315 rep PRs can go in here too.


Yeah, I am pretty low right now myself. Started low and moving slow on purpose to try to accumulate a base for a little while. Work sets today will be 220x5x5 squat, 175x5x5 bench, and 270x5 dead. So I still have a long, long way to go.

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Apoklyps
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LoRez wrote:
Apoklyps wrote:
I'll be in on that for 5 x 5 x 315 high bar. I did 7 x 5 x 130kg last Friday.


Ugh... switching units on me. Have to pull out the calculator, lol.

(It's 286 for anyone else wondering.)


Or you could join a PL fed (e.g. IPF) that uses kgs. You get used to them FAST. I used to hate kgs, but I've gotten used to them quickly and don't really need to convert between lbs and kgs anymore. The joys of being bilingual lol.

To make things nice and confusing, my gym has both lb and kg plates.

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LoRez
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Well, so much for the race to 315 deadlift part. Just did 315 for 3, dead-stop. And 335 for 1.

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Jarvan
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Lorez, I call absolute BS on your 210lbs squat for 20 reps.

Just absolute heinous horseshit

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LoRez
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Jarvan wrote:
Lorez, I call absolute BS on your 210lbs squat for 20 reps.

Just absolute heinous horseshit


Lol, why's that?

It's not even an impressive number for 20 reps.

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Jarvan
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I dunno, I think it is quite impressive. If you did indeed accomplish 20 reps with 210lbs in one set

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LoRez
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Jarvan wrote:
I dunno, I think it is quite impressive. If you did indeed accomplish 20 reps with 210lbs in one set


And this is why I personally question your advice regarding squatting.

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Jarvan
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So... for you, being the guy possesses this 'non-impressive' 20 rep squat, should be giving advice instead? Cmon man. Stahhhhp it.

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LoRez
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Jarvan wrote:
So... for you, being the guy possesses this 'non-impressive' 20 rep squat, should be giving advice instead? Cmon man. Stahhhhp it.


That was 8 months ago. I've done a bit more squatting since then. I did about 650 squats in the month of February.

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Jarvan
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so where do you stand today?

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Apoklyps
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Alright so here's an update:

Did my daily high bar squats of 5 x 5 x 295lbs (beltless) with ease, so I decided to throw on a belt and hit 315lbs x 4. So definitely getting close.

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flipcollar
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I'd forgotten about this thread. Obviously I wasn't in for the 315 challenge, but I figured I'd post a couple relevant things. Last night I did 10 sets of 3, first couple at 315, then the last 8 at 295. 315 was just too much for me to maintain for 10 sets and stay explosive. At the end of the workout, I realized I did the whole thing belt-less. If I had been thinking about it, I might have strapped on my belt and stayed at 315. But a good session either way.

As far as the 405x10 deadlift, I think I could hit it now. My 1rm is not what it was last September (500), but I'm in much better condition. If I remember, I'll give it another shot at the end of this week.

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jbpick86
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Trucking right along.... Work sets today will be 270x5x5 on squat, missed my first rep at 265, only missed one so I am adding weight anyway. Deadlifts today I think I am going for 285 no straps. I have been alternating sessions with the deadlift 20lbs forward (w/ straps) 10lbs back (w/o straps). So I should hit 305 come Monday for a set of 5.

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robstein
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Yesterday during Dan John's workout B, my final squat set was 330x10. I haven't DL'd in a few weeks since I started DJ's program, but I had 325x6 a few weeks ago. 315 bench...now that may be a while!

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