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Jaycuts
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Location: Pennsylvania, USA
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LiftAndLetLive wrote:

Jaycuts wrote:
Yes, basis as in basic? Lol gtfo if you base youre chest and shoulders on dips, overhead presses i could relate but sounds to me if you do dips on the tredmil you have no equipment or you're just over-stating the fact that you're a begginer. You're asking how much to de-load? how much YOU think is comfortable enough to slightly push.

I don't really understand what you're talking about.
Let me try again to explain stuff to you.
For my shoulders, I do OVERHEAD PRESSES.
For my chest, I do DIPS.
Since I can't do bench presses (no bench,spotter) I chose to do dips over push ups.
I DON'T have a dip bar.
I use the bars on threadmil since its wide and sturdy.
I over-state the fact I'm a beginner because I AM one, and I'm trying to humble myself here.
I created this thread to GET help and FIND solutions but unfortunately for me, some people here answer my thread rudely and ignore the fact I'm here for HELP.

For my chest, I do DIPS./ Congrats for clarifying, again.
I DON'T have a dip bar/ use youre bench set dumbass
I use the bars on threadmil since its wide and sturdy./ poor ROM
I over-state the fact I'm a beginner because I AM one, and I'm trying to humble myself here/i can easily see this.
I don't really understand what you're talking about/ not using bigs words you're just an idiot who should have payed attention in school.

I created this thread to GET help and FIND solutions but unfortunately for me, some people here answer my thread rudely and ignore the fact I'm here for HELP./ should have mentioned you have a vagina.
Let me try again to explain stuff to you/ you're explaining you're poor clarification to someone smarter then you. EH WRONG

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Jaycuts
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If you dont own a bench press, get a regular bench you sit on. You take these threads too seriously and being forceful upon my responses is how you'll learn!!

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magick
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If you don't have one already, absolutely get one of those pull-up bars that you can easily install in your house.

Since your goal appears to be strengthening your body, just doing pull-ups/push-ups/dead-lift/OHP/goblet(or in your case plates I would assume) squats will be enough to strengthen your body to a reasonable degree.

You should definitely work on your squats. BW squats are great for both building a strength-base and increasing mobility. You should do them even if you can't do loaded squats.

Just keep your form good at on the calisthenics and do them slowly. No cheating. You're trying to build strength, not get reps in.

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Chris Colucci
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1 Man Island wrote:
If you're doing an SS style routine... Rip has 5x3 for OHP, not 3x5.

Incorrect.

LiftAndLetLive wrote:
I'm pretty sure OPresses in Rippetoe's program is 3 sets of 5 reps as well as most of the lifts he recommends.

Correct. Power cleans are 5x3.

But in any case, what you're doing resembles Starting Strength about as much as Kourtney Kardashian resembles Courtney Cox.

I didn't notice it mentioned, but I'm presuming you don't have a power rack or access to a full gym, correct? Is there a campus gym you can get in to? The sooner you can get into a well-equipped gym, the faster you can get closer to your goals. I'd stick with something basic for a while:
http://www.T-Nation.com/..._from_southwood or
http://www.T-Nation.com/...college_edition

A slight bit of brainpower should be enough to figure out what exercises you need to sub in to account for your limited equipment without drastically changing the coach's intention. Or if that's too tough, just ask.

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Reed
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Jaycuts wrote:

LiftAndLetLive wrote:

You know your coming off as bit of a douche bag there my friend which isn't really anything new considering you usually do but, there is no real reason for you to give this Guy such a hard time. He is just trying to learn. I mean seriously man calm down just bit. Your 17 years old 5'8" weigh 148lbs with over 2 years of training (that's fucking skinny and it doesn't matter if you do it on purpose or not) and your not exactly a freak nasty monster in the strength department and before you took the photo of you "flexing" down off your page you obviously could see you were not exactly all that and bag of chips when it came to physique training either. Lighten up on the guy.

And before you get mad and get all internet tough on me I know I'm not a freak either and appartenly I am built like a drawf lol so begin the bashing but please make it original this time. any one with half a brain and some common sense will most likely agree with me on this.

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kakno
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Try to get a video of your overhead presses. It can be hard to get your form right when you're starting out.

Sounds like you have a barbell, so you could do floor presses. Put the bar on a sturdy bench or chair or some car jacks or whatever you can find that's safe. You could probably even clean the weight sitting up now.

Be nice and helpful to beginners, jaycuts.

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Jaycuts
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Reed wrote:

Jaycuts wrote:

LiftAndLetLive wrote:

LOL im 5'11 160lbs...i never update my shit cause it's really not that important. And i know im a douche, most of the people on here are it's pretty funny. You dont have to be big strong etc to give out information. It's pussys like you who get soft hearted for kids like this.

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Jaycuts
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Reed wrote:

Jaycuts wrote:

LiftAndLetLive wrote:

And im not going to bash on you, it's cool youre training to be a strongman. But you're dead lift blows ass HAHAHA

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Jaycuts
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"Dude do you even little seriously? Judging by this pic I think 15" is just a bit of a stretch it seriously looks like you have never lifted a day in your life. This is a pic you posted not even a week ago in the begginers section asking if you should stop bulking... did you even start bulking?"

LOLL!! talk about me being a douche.^^ nice statement hypocrite.

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Reed
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Jaycuts wrote:

"Dude do you even little seriously? Judging by this pic I think 15" is just a bit of a stretch it seriously looks like you have never lifted a day in your life. This is a pic you posted not even a week ago in the begginers section asking if you should stop bulking... did you even start bulking?"

LOLL!! talk about me being a douche.^^ nice statement hypocrite.

Its slightly different when the guy your being a douche bag to is being a douche bag. Lol well lets see your deadlift. Oh and good job not bashing on me.

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Field
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Location: Washington, USA
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I hardly ever do dips , something about them , they seem to immediately make me feel less mobile or athletic.
Really dont like dips very much.

Any kind of overhead pressing though, usually love it, feels like it gives me good posture. I press overhead alot. I only bench once a week. most weeks.

The only reason i really do any benching is because i want to have the nice looking pecs .
Some women are into that, i would think.

You look at alot of olympic lifters and thier physiques in general look very good, except for thier PECS.

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