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Enter The Drug Dragon
by Bryan Krahn
05/17/10

A top bodybuilding prep-coach answers your questions on the dark side of bodybuilding.

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Kerley
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awesome article!

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I have zero interest in the AAS regimens of pro bodybuilders.

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Moar please!

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I would love to see more of this. With so many rumors and incorrect information floating around, its nice to get info directly from someone who's in the business.

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Steel Nation wrote:
I have zero interest in the AAS regimens of pro bodybuilders.


GTFO then?

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ADvanced TS wrote:
Moar please!


is that a pic of last weeks date?

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good honest responses...appreciated

having "dabbled" in the chemical and BB game for the better part of 30 years one trend i have noticed taht to me is just retarded is the e-coach or internet coach. They seem to be everywhere these days and some are quite accomplished physique athletes. But just from my limited exposure to the competitive environment it seems almost ridiculous to believe that you can prep someone you have never even met in person...what is your take on that?

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Coach Krahn,

do you have recomendations for athletes that would rather look like the body builders of the good old days (arnold's era)?

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hockey_guy wrote:
Coach Krahn,

do you have recomendations for athletes that would rather look like the body builders of the good old days (arnold's era)?


you do know arnold ate D-bol like candy?

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Very cool article. Always good to get a look behind the curtain at the top level of the sport. Not the least bit surprised by any of it though....

That shot of Yates - I remember when those pics were in Flex - not long out from the Olympia that year, looking like nothing I had ever seen before. I remember bringing the mag to work and just losing my shit with a buddy who also lifted as we looked at the pics. No Internet then, so seeing those was fucking shocking to say the least.

He looked like a fucking Rhino....lol....

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"You dance with the gal you brought to the ball. Continue training in the same basic, heavy fashion you used to build the muscle â?? that's the best method to keep the muscle."

This reminds me of the Ronnie Coleman deadlift video for 800X2 when 5 weeks out from Mr. Olympia.

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"I've even seen research indicating that site enhancement oil use can increase androgen receptors at the site injection, so in conjunction with steroids this is another way in which weak body parts can be improved."

Wouldn't having local increase in anabolic steroids cause lowering of androgenic receptor count? The body has it's self-regulating mechanisms and thinking that more testosterone would lead to more testosterone receptors sounds absurd to me. I think my professors saying: "Never draw conclusion from any one source" fits nicely to conclude my observation.

Other than that it was really good article!

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Johny23 wrote:
"I've even seen research indicating that site enhancement oil use can increase androgen receptors at the site injection, so in conjunction with steroids this is another way in which weak body parts can be improved."

Wouldn't having local increase in anabolic steroids cause lowering of androgenic receptor count? The body has it's self-regulating mechanisms and thinking that more testosterone would lead to more testosterone receptors sounds absurd to me. I think my professors saying: "Never draw conclusion from any one source" fits nicely to conclude my observation.

Other than that it was really good article!


I thought synthol was not an anabolic steroid, but just oil?

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"...others are taking charge and creating their own destiny; even if it may be a short(er)-lived one."


That's chilling.

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Great article Bryan.

I'd like to see another one of these articles in next's week issue for sure.

Thanks TMUSCLE.

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I've known guys who've had very bad sides from just 400 mg of test a week, and others that had picture perfect health on 2,000 mg. It's a crapshoot, really.


Which I why I will never touch gear, or recommend it to anyone I train. Good read though. There aren't many places you get actual no bs info on what's really going on in the pro ranks.

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Great article.

It's good to get real information from real coaches doing this shit than the specualtion you mostly hear.

More of this type of real reporting.

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I liked the article and would like to see more of them.

One question I have: what is the guru's take on some of the top contest prep guy's "carb war" that's been going on lately? I'm referring to one guy who is a big advocate of keto vs. another guy who supposedly has his guys eating tons of carbs and doing little cardio and still getting lean (the person who claimed this also said this guy has the people he preps taking DNP like pez though so take it for what it's worth).

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One more question: do you have any thoughts on some of the techniques to help bring in the waist such as wearing a belt the entire time you train, wearing a belt 24/7, not training abs, training abs for 100+ reps a day, ect? Do you employ one of these or other techniques to help the guys with blockier mid-sections bring them down/in?

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Steel Nation wrote:
I have zero interest in the AAS regimens of pro bodybuilders.

Wow, that's interesting. Not.


Thanks for the article.

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PB Andy
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Oh - and yes to another article. That was incredibly interesting and informative.

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Well he said I had an astute observation so of course I'd like to see more. Good introductory article(assuming there is more), I'd like to see a typical or maybe an exact previous prep plan in terms of dosages/cardio. IE

16-12 weeks 45 minutes cardio daily X amount of fat burning/anabolics
2 weeks outs 90 minutes cardio daily etc etc


Also since things don't always go as smooth as one would hope, what are some "tricks of the trade" our prep guy has used when the typical cardio/diet/drug protocols fall flat?? Refeeds, interesting compounds, whatever.

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Scott M wrote:
Well he said I had an astute observation so of course I'd like to see more. Good introductory article(assuming there is more), I'd like to see a typical or maybe an exact previous prep plan in terms of dosages/cardio. IE

16-12 weeks 45 minutes cardio daily X amount of fat burning/anabolics
2 weeks outs 90 minutes cardio daily etc etc


Also since things don't always go as smooth as one would hope, what are some "tricks of the trade" our prep guy has used when the typical cardio/diet/drug protocols fall flat?? Refeeds, interesting compounds, whatever.


Thanks for the feedback guys.

Scott, I'm not sure he can get quite that detailed; after all, this is his livelihood so he can't give away the farm.

Plus, that kind of question is highly individual. I had a similar question for him (a week by week thing) and he said literally every plan is different- just the overall principles remain the same.

Your tricks of the trade question sounds doable though.

Everyone, keep posting your questions. This is your article- I just dot the i's and cross the t's.

- Bryan

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I liked this article a lot.

Would be interesting to see what he thinks most pros do with the 50 iu's of insulin, or what he generally recommends overall with slin. With 50iu's seems like pre/post workout plus with each meal. But more info would be great on the use of insulin by the pros.

Thanks for the article Bryan!

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