Join date: Mar 2007
Location: Ontario, CAN
Awesome stuff zen,
I've put on 20lbs in total. My strength gains have been outrageous and consistent.
My next goal is to take the month of February to do a quick and intense 3-4week cut. Then I will start back up following the I'Bodybuilder Program. Time to get this body transforming even faster!
If anyone is interested, the reason why I am leaning out for 3-4 weeks is because from my experience and from what I've heard. The leaner you are, the leaner and greater your gains will be. (increases insulin sensitivity)
Join date: May 2009
Location: Pennsylvania, USA
Finished 2 months of 5_3_1 and the protocol. 2nd month I was learning and incorporating the 'perfect rep'.
weight fluctuated between 189-194
36" box jump
Now (only 'perfect reps' counted):
weight has been 197-200
44" box jump (might be a bit skewed as this is the first time i've tried to 'max out' on the box jump)
Overall was happy w/ the progress especially w/ the schedule I've got to follow during race season. Felt I was held back a little on bench and OP due to some shoulder issues though. I would have liked to have done the whole 2 months w/ the perfect rep idea to see the difference there.
Got a few races coming up here so going to take a break for a month, but am planning on doing the protocol again w/ the I,Bb program starting at the end of Feb. Will get a few progress pics up when I have more time.
Stu - Thank you very much. I'm totally "in the zone" right now. I love my workouts, my diet, I love writing down everything, perparing my meals every day. Just love my bodybuilding lifestyle very much right now.
I know that my progress is partly to be attributed to the new peri-workout nutrition protocol, partly to my heavy training approach I re-discoverd (perfect rep, low reps, high volumes. Did quiet opposite for year untill summer 2009), and partly to the fact, that I am a "believer". I *want* this to work. I want to believe in the Anaconda-protocol, etc. So there will be some kind of a placebo effect, too.
But I'm pretty sure that what I am currently doing is the best I've ever done regarding nutrition, supplementation, and training.
Oh yes, I didn't even think about the plus 3 pounds lean body weight could be interpreted as little. I'm very excited about that gain. After 20 years of pretty serious training this better than Christmas!
I know it won't go on and on like this forever. If I can step on stage 4-5 pounds heavier next December than last, this would be fantastic.
Thib wanted me to post this in this forum, too. And what the man orders, I do. So here you go:
I noticed something very interesting. Within the I, BB program we do very little high rep sets. None besides the occasional max rep sets after a normal ramp or a ratchet.
But it's those sets where I make almost unbelievable progress.
3 weeks ago I did a set of single-leg leg extension with 170 (pounds or whatever unit that's supposted to be on the weight stack. Doesn't matter for the example.) max rep style after a ratched. I did 7 reps.
Last week I did 11 resp with the same weight.
Yesterday I did a full 22 rep with the exact same weight on the same leg extension machine.
Same thing for bench press.
I improved from 1 rep with 407 pounds (October 6th 2009) to 2 reps with 429 pounds (this week).
But my back-of set (max reps) went from 7 x 316 after 7 sets of force spectrum ramping to 15 x 330!
I have no explanation why I progress so much on high rep work.
Can this be explained? Is it something you observed as well?
im a competitive powerlifter with best lifts at 413 deadlift, 230 bench, and 325 squat. This was before the protocol, my next meet is in 8 weeks and i plan on breaking the 1,000lbs total @ 165...
Im bigger and leaner than ive ever been, in fact i visited my family over christmas and my father said "wow your bigger than before" when in fact i was 6lbs lighter than when he last saw me.
i dont measure bodyfat with calipers... i just use the mirror) but the last time i was 168 i had more fat than i do now at 170
Pros: training more frequently, with better recovery. lean mass gain and even some fat loss (or at least, fat gain at a minimum while adding muscle) able to train intensely.
Cons: i would love to use this stuff all of the time, but my pocketbook wont allow that. So its going to have to be in stints, during periods of over reaching. But thats ok, because i feel i can cut every other supplement, just take the protocol, and i wouldnt need anything else.
I will be posting some before after pics this evening...
Join date: Jan 2010
Location: Illinois, USA
I been cutting. Went from 210 to 176. Bench went from 275 for 5 reps to 185 for like 8 reps. To tell you the truth I think 5/3/1 is bad time to start to lift that light but I started the protocal 255x3 easy and thats while im still cutting. Squat was 245x8 and went to 245x6. Then 2 weeks later 275x7 reps atg. I want to get down to 165ish and I bet my money on it I maintain or even gain strength.
Join date: Aug 2008
Location: Massachusetts, USA
33 years old
Finibars are a no go for me so I will be doing the SWF & Surge Recovery with Anaconda and MAG-10.
Stu, All I could think when I saw that picture is that you are a jacked Mr. Kotter.
So I figured I would give a bit of an update. Weighed in at 197 on Tuesday. That puts me at about 12 pounds so far with minimal fat gain. I have put on some belly fat, but it seems to be the only place any fat is going so I am not too concerned. My waist still fits into pants that I gave up before I started lifting because I was a fat ass. However, my legs do not fit into them. I wish it was because my legs are huge, but in reality the pants are a little on the slim side compared to other jeans I own.
I have been playing around with the protocol a bit and found I do better with SWF and recovery before and anaconda/MAG-10 during. I am also new to trying to put on weight. Up until now, my only goal has been to lose body fat since I was really fat when I started lifting. (210 lbs with no muscle. I couldn't even bench 135 to give an idea of how little muscle and strength I possessed.)
It has taken me a while to overcome my carb-phobia, and I am seeing better progress as a result. I see good things in the future, and am liking Phase 3 of IBB. Hopefully I will break through the other side of 200 soon.
Join date: Nov 2008
Location: Connecticut, USA
Hey all, not much of an avid poster but I just got finished with my first round using the Anaconda protocol and just had to say something ... Wow.
In 6 weeks I went from 187 to 200 with BF staying steady at 16%, it actually looks as if I have gotten a bit more defined. Granted some of it can be attributed to muscle memory as I used to weigh 200 lbs last summer at 20% BF but the gains I've made would not have been the same without the protocol. As far as diet goes, there weren't any changes.
Anyways I am estatic about the progress and just ordered another shipment. The goal is to hit 210-215 and then drop down to a lean 10% at 190-195 by October. We'll see how Anaconda will help me out with my goal. Hopefully at that weight I will finally be satisfied at filling out my frame.
If anyone is interested I did a slightly adjusted protocol. 4 workouts a week with 2 scoop Anaconda, 1 scoop MAG10, and 3 FINiBARs. Every workout day I would consume a scoop of MAG10 before bed and another scoop the following morning. Using that method I was able to make the protocol last 6 weeks. I also wasn't able to follow the I, Bodybuilder regime; not exactly in the right gym for that. I'll have to gathering some before and afters for my next update.
Join date: Feb 2008
Location: Tennessee, USA
Just wanted to say that I have been a loyal T-Nation member for a while now and I love the wealth of information and supplements available here, but I did not see any of the "incredible effects" of I,BODYBUILDER after doing it for several months. Now, it's possible that somehow it just didn't work for ME but will, in fact, work for others. But now I am slightly inclined to be somewhat skeptical about the program and the whole MAG-10/ANACONDA Protocol. Needless to say, it's a little too expensive for me to keep doing if I'm not getting the results that were pretty much guaranteed. I do understand that quite a few people have used it with great success though, so maybe I'm just the exception somehow.
My 2 cents (well, more like hundreds and hundreds or dollars in this case)
Join date: Oct 2002
Location: New York, USA
I'm curious what the rest of your diet looks like. I was pretty well covered as far as a quality training program and daily nutrient intake before I started implementing the 'new' methods CT wrote about in I,BODYBUILDER or incorporated the ANACONDA/MAG-10. This was one of the reasons I'm certain that Mod Brian would continually emphasize that the new products weren't for everyone. They're not magic, and if you look at the above posters, guys like ParagonA, ChokesonStrength, Zraw, Justin.... they've all done very well for themselves progress wise before throwing the ANACONDA Protocol into the mix.
The last thing any supplement company wants is to put out a big deal product, have people try it half assed (not digging on you, just couldn't think of a better way to word this), and then rant and rave that it's all bogus claims. I had already been training for 17 years when I first started using the ANACONDA into my daily workouts. You know what? I stepped onstage 3 lbs heavier, and noticeably tighter (so I was MORE than 3 lbs of muscle heavier, probably 5 if I were to guess), but using it from October '09 to May '10. At my level of development, that's one hell of a testimony.
One of my brothers spends a ton of money a few times a year on 'fat burners'. Unfortunately he fails to realize that you have to diet and workout intelligently for the supplements to 'magically' work. I get to hear him constantly complain about how this or that product is a waste of money. Obviously I don't take his reviews too seriously (He's hesitant about trying the ANACONDA, although I think he's close to taking the plunge. He's competing in his 1st show next year, and as skeptical as he may be, he can't ignore the progress I made.)
Join date: Feb 2008
Location: Tennessee, USA
Stu, thanks for the reply. I understand that a supplement can't be a "fix all" kind of thing. My diet at the time of doing IBB was probably not stellar, but not terrible either. I know that diet is a HUGE part of any progress that you hope to make so I have reworked my diet since then. A typical workout day BACK THEN might have been:
breakfast: 1 cup oatmeal, sugar-free syrup.
snack: apple, 1 scoop Grow!
lunch: half pound ground beef mixed with rice, salsa for flavoring.
pre/during/post workout: Anaconda protocol.
dinner: whatever my dad cooked (I was living at home at the time lol)
snack: maybe 2 scoops Grow!
A typical workout day NOW would be:
breakfast: 1 cup oatmeal, 2 eggs, handful of blueberries, sugar-free syrup.
pre-workout: 2 scoops Grow!
during workout: 2 scoops SWF and creatine.
post-workout: 2 scoops Grow!
lunch: 1 or 2 burgers (try to do lean beef or turkey), cottage cheese.
sanck: 3 scoops MD Muscle.
dinner: chicken breast, 1 potato.
sanck: 2 scoops Grow! or a burger.
I know you've made good progress on this protocol and so congrats to you (and everyone else). Perhaps I should have waited to do the Anaconda protocol after I had made a bit more progress on my own.
Keep up the good work!