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Damn, i find that really interesting that the weights you are using for chest are so low. I understand the idea obviously of using lower weights to really tap into the MMC and target the specific muscles, but i find it surprising that someone who can rep 405 feels he can actually hit his chest better with a weight as low as 185.

On that note, in the 20 weeks out video you posted there has definitely been noticeable improvements in your chest development, so it must be working.

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So Way, do you do really any 'power' moves anymore?? Like is there a 'planned progression' at all in your routine, whether it be via weight, reps, sets, volume, TUT, rest periods? Or at this stage, you just get in the gym, and thrash the muscle really hard focusing on MMC and exercise selection?

I can't even fathom how many skinny kids at your gym think you are so 'nonfunctional' when they watch your workouts. lol.

And seriously, the improvement from the 1st video to the 2nd seems drastic. I can't weight to see how you look on contest day. If you say your back is where you hold the most fat, it's going to look ridic when it leans out. lol

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Audio- If I do incline BB first I use 275, but I'm usually pretty shot after incline DB + Flies to the point that 185 feels really heavy.

Spidey- I would say I adhere to the latter scenario. I really don't give a shit about the weight anymore, at all. I might even stick with the same weight for a month or longer until I feel I have totally mastered that weight, and that my form and MMC are perfect during the exercise. Only then will I consider upping the weight.

I know this goes against what everyone likes to preach, but I've been on the other end of the spectrum, and tried to use strength as my main means of progression, but it just didn't work that great for me. Sure, I was really strong and big, but I didn't look like a BBer.

And yah, I'm sure people love to talk shit when I'm lifting lol.

Thanks man. My back is definitely what likes to stay chubby. Even when I got pretty lean during my last cut my back never really leaned out anywhere near what my front did.

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For instance, I have used the exact same weights (except for hack squats where I went up 20 lbs) for all of my leg workouts in the past 2.5 months, and I don't think my legs have ever looked anywhere near as good as they do now.

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waylanderxx wrote:
For instance, I have used the exact same weights (except for hack squats where I went up 20 lbs) for all of my leg workouts in the past 2.5 months, and I don't think my legs have ever looked anywhere near as good as they do now.



amen,bro.

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waylanderxx wrote:
Spidey- I would say I adhere to the latter scenario. I really don't give a shit about the weight anymore, at all. I might even stick with the same weight for a month or longer until I feel I have totally mastered that weight, and that my form and MMC are perfect during the exercise. Only then will I consider upping the weight.

I know this goes against what everyone likes to preach, but I've been on the other end of the spectrum, and tried to use strength as my main means of progression, but it just didn't work that great for me. Sure, I was really strong and big, but I didn't look like a BBer.

And yah, I'm sure people love to talk shit when I'm lifting lol.

I feel the exact same way. I mean I might switch up my training in the future and give powerlifting a shot. But right now while I'm training for bodybuilding I've stopped giving a shit so much about the numbers I'm putting up. Thanks for re-affirming my stance haha. Good Lucky again with your prep. Looking sick right now. Can't wait to see what you bring to the stage.

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Back from the chiro...apparently I also have bicepital tendinitis on my left side. YAY!!

haha, getting this stuff worked on hurts SO bad, but it definitely feels much better afterwards.

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waylanderxx wrote:



If you do it right, using such a low % of my max weights will still destroy you. (just don't try this if you're a beginner plz)




Is there any particular reason why a beginner shouldn't do this?

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thazgeetsqat wrote:
waylanderxx wrote:



If you do it right, using such a low % of my max weights will still destroy you. (just don't try this if you're a beginner plz)




Is there any particular reason why a beginner shouldn't do this?



I don't think a beginner is in tune enough with their body to make much progress using this method. You need to build a good strength base first IMO and, you really have to have a strong MMC and be very focused on the exercise for this to be effective. That's something that usually comes with several years of training experience.

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johnman18 wrote:
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Spidey- I would say I adhere to the latter scenario. I really don't give a shit about the weight anymore, at all. I might even stick with the same weight for a month or longer until I feel I have totally mastered that weight, and that my form and MMC are perfect during the exercise. Only then will I consider upping the weight.

I know this goes against what everyone likes to preach, but I've been on the other end of the spectrum, and tried to use strength as my main means of progression, but it just didn't work that great for me. Sure, I was really strong and big, but I didn't look like a BBer.

And yah, I'm sure people love to talk shit when I'm lifting lol.

I feel the exact same way. I mean I might switch up my training in the future and give powerlifting a shot. But right now while I'm training for bodybuilding I've stopped giving a shit so much about the numbers I'm putting up. Thanks for re-affirming my stance haha. Good Lucky again with your prep. Looking sick right now. Can't wait to see what you bring to the stage.


Thank ya sir!

Hopefully you get some good results from this training style; make me look good plz!! lol

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Well..."naturally" I won't look as good as you ;) haha. But I think I have gotten some pretty good results from it so far. You think you might go back to your previous training style and possibly try a powerlifting meet or something?

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waylanderxx wrote:
thazgeetsqat wrote:
waylanderxx wrote:



If you do it right, using such a low % of my max weights will still destroy you. (just don't try this if you're a beginner plz)




Is there any particular reason why a beginner shouldn't do this?



I don't think a beginner is in tune enough with their body to make much progress using this method. You need to build a good strength base first IMO and, you really have to have a strong MMC and be very focused on the exercise for this to be effective. That's something that usually comes with several years of training experience.

Couldn't agree more with this.

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Back from the chiro...apparently I also have bicepital tendinitis on my left side. YAY!!

haha, getting this stuff worked on hurts SO bad, but it definitely feels much better afterwards.


I have the exact thing. It was so bad that it caused terrible weakness in my hand.

I stopped going to a chiro a while back and now see a Dr who moves the soft tissue (not sure what title he has in that regard).

He pulled my bicep tendon back into place in my shoulder... the worst effin' pain I've ever felt. I almost passed out and instantly broke out in a sweat. He also warned me about severe stretches of my arm behind the plane of my back AND no DC broom stretches!
Also told me to do 30 hammer curls every day with light weight to keep the tendon in place.

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Iron Dwarf wrote:
waylanderxx wrote:
Back from the chiro...apparently I also have bicepital tendinitis on my left side. YAY!!

haha, getting this stuff worked on hurts SO bad, but it definitely feels much better afterwards.


I have the exact thing. It was so bad that it caused terrible weakness in my hand.

I stopped going to a chiro a while back and now see a Dr who moves the soft tissue (not sure what title he has in that regard).

He pulled my bicep tendon back into place in my shoulder... the worst effin' pain I've ever felt. I almost passed out and instantly broke out in a sweat. He also warned me about severe stretches of my arm behind the plane of my back AND no DC broom stretches!
Also told me to do 30 hammer curls every day with light weight to keep the tendon in place.



Hmmm that's interesting. When I lift, my tricep starts to go numb and then I feel it down in my hand as well, and then the strength just disappears. I wonder if they'll have to use some more extreme methods like you mentioned to fix it.

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Iron Dwarf wrote:
waylanderxx wrote:
Back from the chiro...apparently I also have bicepital tendinitis on my left side. YAY!!

haha, getting this stuff worked on hurts SO bad, but it definitely feels much better afterwards.


I have the exact thing. It was so bad that it caused terrible weakness in my hand.

I stopped going to a chiro a while back and now see a Dr who moves the soft tissue (not sure what title he has in that regard).

He pulled my bicep tendon back into place in my shoulder... the worst effin' pain I've ever felt. I almost passed out and instantly broke out in a sweat. He also warned me about severe stretches of my arm behind the plane of my back AND no DC broom stretches!
Also told me to do 30 hammer curls every day with light weight to keep the tendon in place.


Everyday....forever?

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audiogarden1 wrote:
Iron Dwarf wrote:
waylanderxx wrote:
Back from the chiro...apparently I also have bicepital tendinitis on my left side. YAY!!

haha, getting this stuff worked on hurts SO bad, but it definitely feels much better afterwards.


I have the exact thing. It was so bad that it caused terrible weakness in my hand.

I stopped going to a chiro a while back and now see a Dr who moves the soft tissue (not sure what title he has in that regard).

He pulled my bicep tendon back into place in my shoulder... the worst effin' pain I've ever felt. I almost passed out and instantly broke out in a sweat. He also warned me about severe stretches of my arm behind the plane of my back AND no DC broom stretches!
Also told me to do 30 hammer curls every day with light weight to keep the tendon in place.


Everyday....forever?


Apparently. But they're only light weight.
It would be like doing a set of 30 pushups daily.

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Spring Break time! Pre-pool shot for da ladiez! lol

Today has been good. I made myself take the day off from training and instead have just laid around at the pool for the afternoon, and will spend the rest of the night playing video games.

Good times.

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waylanderxx wrote:
Spring Break time! Pre-pool shot for da ladiez! lol

Today has been good. I made myself take the day off from training and instead have just laid around at the pool for the afternoon, and will spend the rest of the night playing video games.

Good times.


My reaction

http://i.imgur.com/Se3tY.gif

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waylanderxx wrote:
Iron Dwarf wrote:
waylanderxx wrote:
Back from the chiro...apparently I also have bicepital tendinitis on my left side. YAY!!

haha, getting this stuff worked on hurts SO bad, but it definitely feels much better afterwards.


I have the exact thing. It was so bad that it caused terrible weakness in my hand.

I stopped going to a chiro a while back and now see a Dr who moves the soft tissue (not sure what title he has in that regard).

He pulled my bicep tendon back into place in my shoulder... the worst effin' pain I've ever felt. I almost passed out and instantly broke out in a sweat. He also warned me about severe stretches of my arm behind the plane of my back AND no DC broom stretches!
Also told me to do 30 hammer curls every day with light weight to keep the tendon in place.



Hmmm that's interesting. When I lift, my tricep starts to go numb and then I feel it down in my hand as well, and then the strength just disappears. I wonder if they'll have to use some more extreme methods like you mentioned to fix it.


Sounds like your getting some ~C7 brachial plexus nerve entraptment or compression somewhere along the nerve paths....interesting...

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The Greek wrote:
COMEONDIESEL wrote:
Man, I was looking through 'the best of t nation, how the biggest became the biggest' and came across your thread in there. Cannot believe you were once that skinny guy in that picture. Tell me way, what's your take on the eating game for a skinny lean guy? Just get x amount of calories per day to grow, no matter whether it's 6-8 meals a day, or 3-4 big ass meals a day?

Another thing which I'm curious about. Your scoliosis condition. I think I may be in the same boat. My right quad is noticeably bigger than my left. My right shoulder sits lower than my left and seems to be slightly more internally rotated, which in turn affects my right pec, which is smaller than my left. When I tense my left glute hard, it's as if upper body moves into better alignment (ie my right shoulder is pulled slightly up more and back). Another thing, my left upper trap is alot bigger than my right. I reckon this is from as a kid carrying a heavy bag everyday on my left shoulder doing my paper-round. Any of this sound familiar?



This pretty much sums up my condition as well.


Some definite muscular imbalances and your story possibly explains the causes for your issues. I see a Chiro and I am in physical therapy school....get a good Chiro that incorporates PT techniques and you should be set or find a PT that specializes in postural restoration.

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waylanderxx wrote:
Spring Break time! Pre-pool shot for da ladiez! lol

Today has been good. I made myself take the day off from training and instead have just laid around at the pool for the afternoon, and will spend the rest of the night playing video games.

Good times.


I would sell my soul to make my lats that visible from the front. unfortunately i am the definition of high lats. Bastard.

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audiogarden1 wrote:
waylanderxx wrote:
Spring Break time! Pre-pool shot for da ladiez! lol

Today has been good. I made myself take the day off from training and instead have just laid around at the pool for the afternoon, and will spend the rest of the night playing video games.

Good times.


I would sell my soul to make my lats that visible from the front. unfortunately i am the definition of high lats. Bastard.



lol now if I can just get some thickness to go with my lats I'll be good to go.

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Here's 19 weeks out vid. Sorry if it's still sideways, youtube editing is taking forever so check back later. Weighing 265 lbs right now, and feeling good.

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waylanderxx wrote:
Here's 19 weeks out vid. Sorry if it's still sideways, youtube editing is taking forever so check back later. Weighing 265 lbs right now, and feeling good.



Everyone always compliments your size, but you just have really good shape and symmetry too.

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Looking good! This is my favorite thread on TN. The first thread I read when I enter the site.
I like that you share your knowledge, hope you continue to do that.

Good luck with the prep :)

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