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jp_dubya
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Join date: Oct 2002
Location: Texas, USA
Posts: 3107

what are you doing?
is it working? -------- yes -------------> keep doing it
-------- no -------------> change it

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SteelyD
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Join date: Jun 2007
Location: Maine, USA
Posts: 11776

Professor X wrote:
...but that next day I feel like shit in the gym...so I go the fuck home.


I think this is hard for people to learn/accept.

I've gone to the gym, started to warmup and just realized that it ain't happening, so I went home. Maybe I got a set or two in. Maybe I never got past warming up.

I know there have been nights where I've started squatting and even with just the bar, knee didn't feel right or something else, so no squats that night, or maybe nothing at all.

If you're honest with yourself and you know your body well enough, you're allowed to show up, then go home. Just show up the next day and do it.

The flip side of course is absolutely being convinced that you don't want to be there or feeling shitty and end up breaking through a plateau or PR.

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SamMcLoughin
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Join date: Oct 2010
Location: Ireland
Posts: 514

I did this recently for about 40 days or thereabouts, but it was strength focused. I would do two or three of the following four - squat, deadlift, bench, overhead and add in whatever assistance I felt like I was up to. It's in my log if you want to see how it went.

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8ProteinLiftW8
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Join date: Nov 2011
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Posts: 18

I went all of 2011 with 7 days off, but I haven't been lifting long enough to know whether or not that was the right decision. I made some good gains on a repeating 5-day split.

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sundown
Level 1

Join date: Mar 2012
Location: Armed Forces - Europe
Posts: 48

Ambugaton wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Ambugaton wrote:
SteelyD wrote:
Anecdotally speaking, the past few years, I never scheduled a day off from training and only took days off as I was forced to because of "life" and I made great gains in strength and size going sometime more than 2 weeks without a day off.

Past 3-4 months I've been forced to take many days off because of work travel, etc, and even a week here and there (ie. more "rest/recovery" than ever), and I've leveled off, or at least plateaued. I don't think that's coincidence.

When I can train every day, I typically can also get in enough food and rest that goes along with the training to make it work.


If you had to estimate, how many cals/lb bodyweight were you eating?



That question right there shows what everyone else was speaking of. It doesn't matter how much HE was eating. I have taken in more than 8,000cals a day before when gaining (no specific number since I wasn't counting...and I am sure I have eaten even more than that at times). That doesn't mean YOU can get away with that without becoming obese.


I'm not looking for an exact number. I know I'm not going to get nutritional gospel from anybody in here. I just want a frame of reference. I have a pretty good idea of what I can eat and how long I need to recover on the training regimen I use at the moment.

I suppose the more appropriate quesion would look something like this: What kind of difference were you looking at in calories consumed on this high-frequency training schedule versus what you consumed on a more moderate training schedule?


Read some of the Carb cycling articles in the archives on this site. Use the High carb days and moderate carb days for heavy and moderate workouts. They will give you starting points for protein, carbs and fat per pound of bodyweight based on what your goals are. Then adjust from there based on results. If you get your macronutrients right the total calories will workout. Protein and carbs have 4 cal/gram and fat 9 cal/gram. Keep your Protein high, fat moderately low, and adjust carbs (preferably low GI carbs) to gain or lose.

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