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Kardash
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kind-of-inhaling/'ab-flexing'

(sorry for the triple posting btw, I couldn't figure out how to put all these pics in 1 post)

What would you guys think? Is the bf% reading correct?

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Going off the pics, you are definitely not a fat bastard.

TBH looks like you don't lift, i know your new but i think you should start concentrating on eating and lifting. Add some muscle.

How tall are u?

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Another pic at different light in an other room for accuracy purposes, stomach held in btw.

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Marzouk wrote:
Going off the pics, you are definitely not a fat bastard.

TBH looks like you don't lift, i know your new but i think you should start concentrating on eating and lifting. Add some muscle.

How tall are u?


Hey mate, well I guess I didn't lose 8 kilograms for nothing lol. This really makes me wish I took some "before"-pics. You should see my starting waist-size at the opening post.

I'm 183 cm, that is just over 6ft I think.

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Kardash wrote:
Marzouk wrote:
Going off the pics, you are definitely not a fat bastard.

TBH looks like you don't lift, i know your new but i think you should start concentrating on eating and lifting. Add some muscle.

How tall are u?


Hey mate, well I guess I didn't lose 8 kilograms for nothing lol. This really makes me wish I took some "before"-pics. You should see my starting waist-size at the opening post.

I'm 183 cm, that is just over 6ft I think.


Cool, its good you lost the weight, now read up, do your homework and start adding some lean mass.

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The definition of "fat bastard" has apparently changed to simple mean "guy who look like he doesn't lift".

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Professor X wrote:
The definition of "fat bastard" has apparently changed to simple mean "guy who look like he doesn't lift".


Hehe I appreciate the comment. Gaining wasn't so much a goal as was losing since I started obese. I really wish I could show you guys some 'before'-pictures so you could see where I was coming from. You should've seen me with my 41 inch gut 8 weeks ago!

Being obese I had to made the choice of either gaining more mass, or losing as much fat as possible and then switch to a slow, steady and clean bulk.

Anyway, I'd like the focus to shift a bit more towards the first picture I posted. I was relaxing there. You can clearly see my gut still passing my chest.

I hope that by judging the picture on the 2nd page I can get 2 answers questioned:
1) Is my calipher measurement correct? Does this look 14.55%ish?
2) When would be a good time for me to stop losing fat and focus purely on building muscle, given that I started out from a 26%bf?

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I am doubting that 26% and that waist measurement since I am betting lack of abdominal strength had some part to play just like a previous poster here.

You look like a guy that needs to build some muscle. I am not a fan of skinny people working on getting super ripped before any mass is built. That makes little sense to me for several reasons....one of the most important being mental state and the increased possibility of that same person not being able to break that focus on "only abs" so they ever make any real gains to start with in muscle mass.

If you actually were that much fatter only 8 weeks ago (again, difficult for me to believe without you losing a ton of muscle in the process) it simply means you need to watch your diet closer as you gain. That's it.

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Professor X wrote:
I am doubting [that 26% and] that waist measurement since I am betting lack of abdominal strength had some part to play just like a previous poster here.


Thanks for the quick reply man. But the quoted part I dont really understand.. since I am able to wear pants again that I had outgrown (read: out-eaten). What has abdominal strength got to do with my waist measurement being 41 inch in January and 36 inch in April?

Thanks for the replies guys, keep 'em coming!

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No abdominal strength = stomach hangs with zero control = guy with big belly whether actually that "fat" or not.

No one knows what you looked like before, but I do know it would be rare for someone to lose damn near 10% body fat and more looking like you without a shit ton of muscle coming off with it. You would end up losing largely "half and half" body fat and muscle.

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When i think fat bastard, i don't think 196 at 6 feet, i think more along the lines of "get in my belly" (terrible movies, i know.) The drop in weight and waist is impressive but start hitting the weights hard and eating again!

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Btw, would I be considered skinny-fat atm? I find it interesting that Professor X and Marzouk thought I was too skinny, since most ppl in college consider me to be a big guy o.0

Can anyone give a bf%-estimate btw based on the pics? Is the 14-15% I got from the caliphers correct?

And how the hell can it be my chest-tape measures 42 inches, my gut 36 inches but my gut still sticks out more than my chest?

(lot's of Qs lol sorry, but I guess that's what a forum is for)

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Professor X wrote:
No abdominal strength = stomach hangs with zero control = guy with big belly whether actually that "fat" or not.

No one knows what you looked like before, but I do know it would be rare for someone to lose damn near 10% body fat and more looking like you without a shit ton of muscle coming off with it. You would end up losing largely "half and half" body fat and muscle.


The first part is interesting, I never realized that abdominal strength played such a big rol. When boxing we did lot's of core work - and since I stopped boxing 2 years ago I can't really remember a proper core workout (except deadlifts etc). So thanks, this is something I will def look into.

The second part I didn't really get, but I really worked hard for the last 3 months. Losing fat was really a priority, and I have no doubt I must have lost strength in the proces. My bench press was PR was 1x210lbs, I think now it's around 200lbs, but I am not really sure because I switched to the 5/3/1.

May I know why trying to get to a 10-12 bf% and starting a slow, steady and clean bulk isn't a good idea? Because that was my original goal - but I didn't think it would be so frowned upon here..

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Kardash wrote:

May I know why trying to get to a 10-12 bf% and starting a slow, steady and clean bulk isn't a good idea? Because that was my original goal - but I didn't think it would be so frowned upon here..



My personal opinion is most of those guys don't get that big. Some may disagree...but they are usually carrying less muscle.

I could see someone doing that if they were naturally muscular, but all it is doing is wasting time for anyone who has very little muscle....and time is what you don't get back. What I mean is, my advice is for guys under the age of 35 to take FULL advantage of that and gain as much muscle as they can if they have goals in bodybuilding.

It becomes a hell of a lot harder if you wait until damn near 40 to get serious. You can literally gain enough muscle to equal another person if you start early enough and have the genetics for this.

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Kardash wrote:
Btw, would I be considered skinny-fat atm? I find it interesting that Professor X and Marzouk thought I was too skinny, since most ppl in college consider me to be a big guy o.0

Can anyone give a bf%-estimate btw based on the pics? Is the 14-15% I got from the caliphers correct?

And how the hell can it be my chest-tape measures 42 inches, my gut 36 inches but my gut still sticks out more than my chest?

(lot's of Qs lol sorry, but I guess that's what a forum is for)

First, stop giving a shit about what you are being labeled right now. Second, if you are so damn worried about your chest being smaller than your gut, do more chest exercises! Hit the weights hard for awhile and actually get lean then start worrying about bf%.

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Well.. I fucked up. Due to various reasons, obligations and lack of discipline/incosistency I let my training go for the passed 2 months. And I started eating. Started eating like I came out of a Nazi-camp.

I gained 4kg's of what I guess is fat. Waist size grew again. The bad thing is, like prof X said, I must have also lost muscle during my weightloss. Muscle wasted, and fat gained.

I'm gonna grab me a burger.

Fuck this shit, my plan now is: eat, lift, sleep, repeat.

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Kenny_Powers wrote:
Sarev0k wrote:
fiber = negative calories.


DISREGARD THIS DRIVEL


You are drivel. Prove me wrong, dunce.

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Don't know if it's been mentioned but dropping the brewskies can be a massive help and the sodas. Both are like drinking liquid fat that goes straight to the midsection lol. Lots n lots of running too. Serious, road work works. Be careful if your knees get sensitive though. I wish you well in your weight loss endeavor!

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leon36 wrote:
Don't know if it's been mentioned but dropping the brewskies can be a massive help and the sodas. Both are like drinking liquid fat that goes straight to the midsection lol. Lots n lots of running too. Serious, road work works. Be careful if your knees get sensitive though. I wish you well in your weight loss endeavor!


Thanks mate, but no more weightloss for me. Like I said, I will simply eat, lift 5-3-1, sleep and repeat that cycle now.
I think what Professor X said was true. I should dedicate more time to building proper muscle first (see pics) before thinking fat loss, even though my midsection exploded in size again.

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