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jskrabac
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I have a question for those out there who have done fitness modeling before. How lean should you be just to start put together a portfolio of snap shots to send out to different magazines, companies, etc.? Obviously they know you're not going to be single digit body fat year round, but I imagine there has to be some reasonable level for them to seriously consider you.

Below I will attach two current photos. I'm 5'10", about 212-215 bodyweight right now. Plan to drop to 190 by the end of the year and hit 180 for a men's physique comp in April. I was thinking I should hire a photographer at around 200.

What do you think?

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xXSeraphimXx
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I am not a fitness model so, I do not know how it really works but, I do model. I think the best way would be to hire a photographer and then find an agent to represent you. They will do a better job of finding work for you. Many if not most fitness models are finding work through fitness/physique competitions as they usually have a good mix muscle and overall attractiveness. Magazines are not going to hire ugly people.

As for muscle/BF% your pictures should show you at your BEST. You may not be at that level year round but, you should be pretty close as work can come at any moment and it sucks having to pass on a job because you are off.


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xXSeraphimXx wrote:
I am not a fitness model so, I do not know how it really works but, I do model. I think the best way would be to hire a photographer and then find an agent to represent you. They will do a better job of finding work for you. Many if not most fitness models are finding work through fitness/physique competitions as they usually have a good mix muscle and overall attractiveness. Magazines are not going to hire ugly people.

As for muscle/BF% your pictures should show you at your BEST. You may not be at that level year round but, you should be pretty close as work can come at any moment and it sucks having to pass on a job because you are off.




Ok, so you think I should hold off until around the time of my physique show in April?

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jskrabac wrote:
xXSeraphimXx wrote:
I am not a fitness model so, I do not know how it really works but, I do model. I think the best way would be to hire a photographer and then find an agent to represent you. They will do a better job of finding work for you. Many if not most fitness models are finding work through fitness/physique competitions as they usually have a good mix muscle and overall attractiveness. Magazines are not going to hire ugly people.

As for muscle/BF% your pictures should show you at your BEST. You may not be at that level year round but, you should be pretty close as work can come at any moment and it sucks having to pass on a job because you are off.




Ok, so you think I should hold off until around the time of my physique show in April?



If that is when you will be at your best physically, yes. It may be smart to hire the photographer around the same time to take the pictures.

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jskrabac wrote:
xXSeraphimXx wrote:
I am not a fitness model so, I do not know how it really works but, I do model. I think the best way would be to hire a photographer and then find an agent to represent you. They will do a better job of finding work for you. Many if not most fitness models are finding work through fitness/physique competitions as they usually have a good mix muscle and overall attractiveness. Magazines are not going to hire ugly people.

As for muscle/BF% your pictures should show you at your BEST. You may not be at that level year round but, you should be pretty close as work can come at any moment and it sucks having to pass on a job because you are off.




Ok, so you think I should hold off until around the time of my physique show in April?



If that is when you will be at your best physically, yes. It may be smart to hire the photographer around the same time to take the pictures.

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you can't be a male fitness model w/out a six pack... Idk about what fitness models get down too, but i'd imagine around 6-7%. At that bf, if you can keep all your mass you should look pretty good.. .Might wanna bring up your hams and glutes though cuz you'll lose some mass when you cut.

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EmarosaZ89 wrote:
you can't be a male fitness model w/out a six pack... Idk about what fitness models get down too, but i'd imagine around 6-7%. At that bf, if you can keep all your mass you should look pretty good.. .Might wanna bring up your hams and glutes though cuz you'll lose some mass when you cut.


thanks for posting nothing relevant to my original question...lol

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jskrabac wrote:
EmarosaZ89 wrote:
you can't be a male fitness model w/out a six pack... Idk about what fitness models get down too, but i'd imagine around 6-7%. At that bf, if you can keep all your mass you should look pretty good.. .Might wanna bring up your hams and glutes though cuz you'll lose some mass when you cut.


thanks for posting nothing relevant to my original question...lol


He is basically telling you to not send in those pictures and to get leaner first. I consider that fairly relevant.

The tip on your hamstrings/glutes should also be expected since you are on a bodybuilding website.

At least he tried to help.

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krazykoukides wrote:
jskrabac wrote:
EmarosaZ89 wrote:
you can't be a male fitness model w/out a six pack... Idk about what fitness models get down too, but i'd imagine around 6-7%. At that bf, if you can keep all your mass you should look pretty good.. .Might wanna bring up your hams and glutes though cuz you'll lose some mass when you cut.


thanks for posting nothing relevant to my original question...lol


He is basically telling you to not send in those pictures and to get leaner first. I consider that fairly relevant.

The tip on your hamstrings/glutes should also be expected since you are on a bodybuilding website.

At least he tried to help.


Well then he didn't read my post =) I mean this sincerely, the tone of my response was entirely playful. I never said I'd send these pics in, just wanted to give guys an idea of where I'm at currently so they can have an idea of where I'll be at 180, 190, or 200. My question was, what do you think about me sending in pics at 200? He didn't tell me anything I didn't already know. I'm already in cutting mode and working with a nutrition coach. I was looking for advice on something else is all.

I do appreciate the tip on hamstrings/glutes. Only recently figured out how to really hit my hams well. Thank you john meadows!

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i think 190 at least

looking soft

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Ive done some work with Mens Fitness and am signed by an agency, although I get little work as the fitness model market is absolutely rammed at the moment. I come in at 5'10, 185lb and around 8%bf for a shoot, but never stray anywhere above 11% year round. When looking to fitness model its all about ratios- ie waist to hips, chest to waist etc.

I recommend what youve heard above- get a good photographer to take some good pictures and send them off to some agencies. Fitness modelling is about much more than the body shape too- you must consider all the other aesthetic properties of your body, like your face, hair, teeth and skin.

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jskrabac wrote:
krazykoukides wrote:
jskrabac wrote:
EmarosaZ89 wrote:
you can't be a male fitness model w/out a six pack... Idk about what fitness models get down too, but i'd imagine around 6-7%. At that bf, if you can keep all your mass you should look pretty good.. .Might wanna bring up your hams and glutes though cuz you'll lose some mass when you cut.


thanks for posting nothing relevant to my original question...lol


He is basically telling you to not send in those pictures and to get leaner first. I consider that fairly relevant.

The tip on your hamstrings/glutes should also be expected since you are on a bodybuilding website.

At least he tried to help.


Well then he didn't read my post =) I mean this sincerely, the tone of my response was entirely playful. I never said I'd send these pics in, just wanted to give guys an idea of where I'm at currently so they can have an idea of where I'll be at 180, 190, or 200. My question was, what do you think about me sending in pics at 200? He didn't tell me anything I didn't already know. I'm already in cutting mode and working with a nutrition coach. I was looking for advice on something else is all.

I do appreciate the tip on hamstrings/glutes. Only recently figured out how to really hit my hams well. Thank you john meadows!


Just get down to 200 and see how you look. Fat distribution is genetic. Unless you have cut in the past, no one can predict what you would look like if you lose 10 pounds.
Why not just hire a photographer at a weight closer to the 180 pounds you want to compete at? You have a better chance of giving a good first impression if you have a close to contest shape condition in your portfolio.
Someone out there is sending pictures with a 6-8% body fat. Guy with 6-8% body fat vs Guy 20 pounds off contest weight?? No brainer

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jskrabac wrote:
I have a question for those out there who have done fitness modeling before. How lean should you be just to start put together a portfolio of snap shots to send out to different magazines, companies, etc.? Obviously they know you're not going to be single digit body fat year round, but I imagine there has to be some reasonable level for them to seriously consider you.

Below I will attach two current photos. I'm 5'10", about 212-215 bodyweight right now. Plan to drop to 190 by the end of the year and hit 180 for a men's physique comp in April. I was thinking I should hire a photographer at around 200.

What do you think?


Eric Carlson released an e-book on how to break into fitness modelling a few years ago. It's worth chasing down a copy just for the info on how to secure an agent.I'm not sure if its still available, though.

Your portfolio should only include pics that show you in shoot-ready shape. The agency will assume that whatever shots you submit are going to be how you intend to look on a job.

You'll be misrepresenting yourself by not showing yourself in only peak condition when others will.

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I have friends that are models, one of which is a close friend (I play music with her boyfriend, bands need attractive people, notably females, to appear in their videos/merch/etc). Being an avid lifter, and being around male fitness models occasionally, I have found that they are all perfect examples of the stereotypical "lean guy". long maintenance schedules, only making big gains in the winter/off-seasons (literally), always under 10% bodyfat, strict dieting most of the year, green-tea drinking, etc etc.

Get really lean. Not quite competition shape, this can be unattractive to the general public. They stay around 7-8%, I associate "competition" shape with 4-6% or below (big visual difference in my opinion).

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BlueCollarTr8n
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Any photos should be of you at your best.
I think your 180lb target is realistic.

Everyone is different, but for comparison sake....
I am 5' 10" and at 215 I am fairly vascular with visible abdonimals. [see posting pic]
There is a video in my HUB of what I look like at 195 [I don't know shit about posing and the lighting is garbage, but you will get the idea]....and IMO I would need to be leaner still to model.

I like the time-frame you have chosen. Try to stay strong during your cut, you want to hang on to every pound of LBM you have!

Best Of Luck!

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jskrabac wrote:

Well then he didn't read my post =) I mean this sincerely, the tone of my response was entirely playful. I never said I'd send these pics in, just wanted to give guys an idea of where I'm at currently so they can have an idea of where I'll be at 180, 190, or 200. My question was, what do you think about me sending in pics at 200? He didn't tell me anything I didn't already know. I'm already in cutting mode and working with a nutrition coach. I was looking for advice on something else is all.

I do appreciate the tip on hamstrings/glutes. Only recently figured out how to really hit my hams well. Thank you john meadows!


I'd hate to try and say for sure where I think you'd be ready but...

if I had to guess I'd say shoot for 180-190 and see how you look. 200 seems a bit too high since you're fairly close to that now.

Also: I misread your post originally as well. Must have been the night - lol

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Let me know if this is too much of a hijack; I'm hoping it's just a quick question and answer.

I find your back very impressive, and I think the taper you have will look great when dieted down. What would you say was the core of developing that taper? I've seen a lot of different approaches among my reading; from low-pulley rows, to close/neutral pulldowns, to weighted sternum chinups, to various barbell rows. What worked for you?

You've clearly done plenty of heavy rows, since the midback thickness is obvious in your RDB photo. I'm most interested in what you found worked best for the width.

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Based on input so far, I say drop 10-15lbs and repost pics here for more opinions. Look into photographers but don't schedule anything yet.

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I think you look great just the way you are Op

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jskrabac
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DanielDJ wrote:
Unless you have cut in the past, no one can predict what you would look like if you lose 10 pounds.


Does this help? This was about 2 years ago. Bodyweight 170, and I'd guess around 12% bodyfat?? It was at that time I stop cutting because I realized I wasn't big enough and spent a good 16 months gaining size.

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jskrabac
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roybot wrote:
jskrabac wrote:
I have a question for those out there who have done fitness modeling before. How lean should you be just to start put together a portfolio of snap shots to send out to different magazines, companies, etc.? Obviously they know you're not going to be single digit body fat year round, but I imagine there has to be some reasonable level for them to seriously consider you.

Below I will attach two current photos. I'm 5'10", about 212-215 bodyweight right now. Plan to drop to 190 by the end of the year and hit 180 for a men's physique comp in April. I was thinking I should hire a photographer at around 200.

What do you think?


Eric Carlson released an e-book on how to break into fitness modelling a few years ago. It's worth chasing down a copy just for the info on how to secure an agent.I'm not sure if its still available, though.

Your portfolio should only include pics that show you in shoot-ready shape. The agency will assume that whatever shots you submit are going to be how you intend to look on a job.

You'll be misrepresenting yourself by not showing yourself in only peak condition when others will.


I'll look into it. Thanks.

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jskrabac
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Mr. Walkway wrote:
I think you look great just the way you are Op


haha...I'm happy too. But I'm not lean enough =(

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jskrabac
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Another at I'm guessing 10%:

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