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DixiesFinest
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Field wrote:
detazathoth wrote:

Let's see it.


Less than detazathoth's warmup weights:

355x3 425x1 445x1





lolololol

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detazathoth
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450 > 445

Idiot.

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detazathoth
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Oh and sit back more, and don't stiff leg your pulls so much.

Edit: I see that 2nd set weight looks more like 415lbs and the 3rd set, I don't see the weight increase on the bar on your 445 attempt

So I'm still calling bullshit.

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Field
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Thanks for candid replies. Good to have realistic criticism.

Give it a few years.

Rome aint built in ...you know the rest.

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Maiden3.16
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detazathoth wrote:
Oh and sit back more, and don't stiff leg your pulls so much.

Edit: I see that 2nd set weight looks more like 415lbs and the 3rd set, I don't see the weight increase on the bar on your 445 attempt

So I'm still calling bullshit.


Interesting the last two attempts look like different angles of the same *lift. same facial expression and look to the right after the completion of the lift. I hope I am wrong.

edit Plus what looks to be the same weights as detazathoth pointed out.

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detazathoth wrote:
So I'm still calling bullshit.


k

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detazathoth
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Field wrote:
detazathoth wrote:
So I'm still calling bullshit.


k


LOL, the fact that you failed to provide evidence to your claim is sad enough. The fact that said 450 when it looks like a 415 pull and calling it 450 is just straight up pathetic.

Or worst of all, you got trolled so hard that you felt compelled to get validation from anonymous posters on the internet, when it's clear that we're just making fun of you.


Either way, dat shit cray


Oh, and you're weak as shit, 450 is at least mediocre, 415 is newb weight, broseph. I almost feel embarrassed for you, the fact that you think doing an exercise like the Deadlift makes you "Elite" in any sense of the word is sad. Try becoming an Elite Powerlifter or Elite in any other sport and then we'll talk.

For now, you're just skinny guy that doesn't even look like he lifts.

Fuck off and kill yourself.

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DixiesFinest
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double pwnt.

detazathoth wrote:
Field wrote:
detazathoth wrote:
So I'm still calling bullshit.


k


LOL, the fact that you failed to provide evidence to your claim is sad enough. The fact that said 450 when it looks like a 415 pull and calling it 450 is just straight up pathetic.

Or worst of all, you got trolled so hard that you felt compelled to get validation from anonymous posters on the internet, when it's clear that we're just making fun of you.


Either way, dat shit cray


Oh, and you're weak as shit, 450 is at least mediocre, 415 is newb weight, broseph. I almost feel embarrassed for you, the fact that you think doing an exercise like the Deadlift makes you "Elite" in any sense of the word is sad. Try becoming an Elite Powerlifter or Elite in any other sport and then we'll talk.

For now, you're just skinny guy that doesn't even look like he lifts.

Fuck off and kill yourself.

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want2getlean
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I love how the skinny guy who doesn't look like he lifts is trying to make this a numbers game.. IN THE BB SECTION

what's even funnier is the numbers he's pissing about

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jake_j_m
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lol

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Bambi
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I believe Field pulled 445 pounds because I have a hard time believing that people would lie about pulling what is roughly 200kg. It's an above average number but... really?

Oh shit I posted in this thread again

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Achilles of war wrote:
Marz, I definitely agree with lifting being more popular in US overall. I think it has a lot to do with our schools having sports from age 4+, My little brother already plays baseball and soccer and hes only 5.



oh yes,here in European Community we have no schools,few schools we have don't allows sports for kids and we are still tracking barefoot the bisons (with bows and arrows,of course) LOL


mon amì,le monde es mayor than YOU could even imagine.

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Field wrote:
detazathoth wrote:

Let's see it.


Less than detazathoth's warmup weights:

355x3 425x1 445x1





nice work!!
you can eaasily pull 30lb more per singles,well done.

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detazathoth
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Bambi wrote:
I believe Field pulled 445 pounds because I have a hard time believing that people would lie about pulling what is roughly 200kg. It's an above average number but... really?

Oh shit I posted in this thread again


Look at the bar, it's a 45, 3 35's, a 25, and a 10. It doesn't add up to what he's trying to convince.

He IS that pathetic.

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ronald1919
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who deads with anything lower than 45 plates lol

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detazathoth wrote:
Bambi wrote:
I believe Field pulled 445 pounds because I have a hard time believing that people would lie about pulling what is roughly 200kg. It's an above average number but... really?

Oh shit I posted in this thread again


Look at the bar, it's a 45, 3 35's, a 25, and a 10. It doesn't add up to what he's trying to convince.

He IS that pathetic.

Yeah even the reactions are identical

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ryanbCXG
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So what is a decent deadlift then? JW. 2.5x bw decent? 3x bw being impressive?

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krazykoukides
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Field wrote:
Thanks for candid replies. Good to have realistic criticism.

Give it a few years.

Rome aint built in ...you know the rest.


Hey, good on you for posting a video. That takes balls. And nice lift , too.

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want2getlean
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ryanbCXG wrote:
So what is a decent deadlift then? JW. 2.5x bw decent? 3x bw being impressive?



For Bodybuilding purposes, numbers are irrelevant.

For powerlifting purposes? A good deadlift is either one that gets you a good placing at a meet, OR crack open a powerlifting magazine and see the numbers being put up in your weight class.

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hanban
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lets not get over our head now

a 1.5 BW dead is a decent deadlift for newbs, x2 BW is a good deadlift and sets apart the serious lifters from fitness bunnies, and 2.5BW and above is a strong deadlift.

usually for most male drug free lifters, the first real hallmark in deadlifting is 405. a 500lb deadlift is considered a strong base and usually take some real effort and time to get. 600+ and you are a strong fucker.

this is how things go for 99% of lifters. the freaks will always pull 600 the first time they try the lift.

the real LOL is why is this in the bodybuilding forum.

next we gonna start talking about Inzer suits here

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xBW ratios are retarded imo. Shorter lifters will always have an advantage over taller lifters simply because they will weigh less while proportionally having the same amount of mass. Same thing with leverages, someone with long arms and short everything else will have a much easier time with deads. You cant just say a lift is good or bad simply because of its ratio to bw.

According to xBW logic, a 200 pounder lifting 500 is just as impressive as a 400 pounder lifting a 1000. We all know that's bullshit. Gravity doesnt work that way. That's why ants can move 1000x their bw, while an elephant might struggle with 1x.

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buzza wrote:
Achilles of war wrote:
Marz, I definitely agree with lifting being more popular in US overall. I think it has a lot to do with our schools having sports from age 4+, My little brother already plays baseball and soccer and hes only 5.



oh yes,here in European Community we have no schools,few schools we have don't allows sports for kids and we are still tracking barefoot the bisons (with bows and arrows,of course) LOL


mon am√??√?¬¨,le monde es mayor than YOU could even imagine.



Your sentences never make sense... BTW I did not say that Eastern Europe does not have schools, nor did I say Eastern European's do not allow children to participate in extra curricular activities.

I do however feel that in the states we are encouraged to participate in sports and fitness activities at an earlier age.

Thank you come again!

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Anus Bleach wrote:
xBW ratios are retarded imo. Shorter lifters will always have an advantage over taller lifters simply because they will weigh less while proportionally having the same amount of mass. Same thing with leverages, someone with long arms and short everything else will have a much easier time with deads. You cant just say a lift is good or bad simply because of its ratio to bw.

According to xBW logic, a 200 pounder lifting 500 is just as impressive as a 400 pounder lifting a 1000. We all know that's bullshit. Gravity doesnt work that way. That's why ants can move 1000x their bw, while an elephant might struggle with 1x.


I agree but thats why i also included actuall deadlift numbers.

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Achilles of war wrote:
buzza wrote:
Achilles of war wrote:
Marz, I definitely agree with lifting being more popular in US overall. I think it has a lot to do with our schools having sports from age 4+, My little brother already plays baseball and soccer and hes only 5.



oh yes,here in European Community we have no schools,few schools we have don't allows sports for kids and we are still tracking barefoot the bisons (with bows and arrows,of course) LOL


mon am√???√??√?¬¨,le monde es mayor than YOU could even imagine.



Your sentences never make sense... BTW I did not say that Eastern Europe does not have schools, nor did I say Eastern European's do not allow children to participate in extra curricular activities.

I do however feel that in the states we are encouraged to participate in sports and fitness activities at an earlier age.

Thank you come again!


Yeah ur right, europe is a lot different. I hear about high schools providing athletes with whey etc.

Our weight room in school was filled with crash mats.

Even though we had 2 tennis courts a basketball cout, a rugby pitch, an all weather football athletics pitch.

But dum bells or a squat rack? Don't be absurd.

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pushharder
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FTR, I believe deadlifts - all variations - are great for building muscle if done with appropriate volume and recovery.

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