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ryanbCXG wrote:
Professor X wrote:
ryanbCXG wrote:
Stu never said they weren't taking diuretics......way to reading comprehension.






The Mighty Stu wrote:
Quasi-Tech wrote:

I did not know that natural competitors used diuretics, that is surprising to me if true. .


I don't think it is.



Yes cutting the quote down and then he still doesn't say not one person uses them. He is saying its not surprising that nattys do use them. Reading comprehsion please try it




Reading comprehension failure.

Statement: I did not know that natural competitors used diuretics, that is surprising to me if true.

REPLY: I don't think it is


That would mean he does not think it is TRUE. That would mean he does not think naturals use diuretics.


Coming at me like I did something wrong for showing this to you makes no sense.



Back to the topic, yes electrolyte imbalances can cause heart failure. Other things like taking too much potassium at one time can do it also.

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ryanbCXG
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Professor X wrote:
ryanbCXG wrote:
Professor X wrote:
ryanbCXG wrote:
Stu never said they weren't taking diuretics......way to reading comprehension.






The Mighty Stu wrote:
Quasi-Tech wrote:

I did not know that natural competitors used diuretics, that is surprising to me if true. .


I don't think it is.



Yes cutting the quote down and then he still doesn't say not one person uses them. He is saying its not surprising that nattys do use them. Reading comprehsion please try it




Reading comprehension failure.

Statement: I did not know that natural competitors used diuretics, that is surprising to me if true.

REPLY: I don't think it is


That would mean he does not think it is TRUE. That would mean he does not think naturals use diuretics.


Coming at me like I did something wrong for showing this to you makes no sense.



Back to the topic, yes electrolyte imbalances can cause heart failure. Other things like taking too much potassium at one time can do it also.


Come at me bro. Glad you think you are special.

Anyways. Man when I would have to fix K+ in IVs was nerve racking knowing too much would stop their heart.

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ryanbCXG
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From another board
" he was using diuretics pretty heavy leading up to the show.. He said it was his last show and wanted to go all out.. Said he didn't want to do what it took to gain 20 pounds to be competitive.. But yet went to extreme for his conditioning "

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If anyone is interested in the diuretic topic (I don't have much to add to the information concerning Seccarecci's death), I actually grabbed my phone while running errands and reached out to the former head of the WNBF, now head of another federation, longtime Pro competitor, and all around damn knowledgeable guy concerning bodybuilding (especially natty/tested competitions).

He said that testing for diuretics is standard in the expanded panel being used by WADA-accredited labs. A run of the mill drug test would detect PEDs, with diuretic testing as an available option should a promoter wish to do so.

As I've said in other threads, the level to which a federation holds their athletes accountable for banned substances is quite variable. I can rattle off a list of names of competitors who have failed WNBF show tests, and a month later are competing in a different "drug tested" federation. Does that mean that all natties use diuretics, or even (gasp!) some type of anabolics? Nope. It simply means that just like in any sport, some people play by the rules, and others don't.

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I'd say his proclamations of wanting to go out with a bang, and it being his last show was rather... prophetic.


Might be too soon. And the following statement will be rather cynical of me, but these guys are in control of their own lives, and it is their decision to do something stupid like pushing it. They do call it "pushing it" for a reason. I can only feel so bad when this type of thing happens. What did people expect to happen?

Most interesting, is what do these young guys expect to happen pumping gram upon gram into their system to "catch up" to pro level quickly. Its like a time bomb, no one knows when its going to go off, but its certainly armed.

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Professor X wrote:
THE FINDING - According to a first reconstruction carried out by the coroner, Marcello Chironi, the cause of death would be attributed to an accidental fall as a result of a strong illness. Maybe a heart attack. The man suffered, in fact, of heart problems. To confirm the hypothesis of the fall of a serious head injury reported by Seccarecci. The investigations are still ongoing to clarify the dynamics of what happened. To give the alarm was the mother of Seccarecci, which opened the door to the room of the residence finding the corpse of his son on the kitchen floor with a large spot of blood under his head.


http://corrieredelmezzogiorno....


holder of the Guinness Book of Records 2010 as the man with the largest arms in the world (55 centimeters)


I thought guinness wont count the record if they dont test clean for performance enhancing drugs or other such forms of "assistance" such as SEO?

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ryanbCXG wrote:
Professor X wrote:
ryanbCXG wrote:
Stu never said they weren't taking diuretics......way to reading comprehension.






The Mighty Stu wrote:
Quasi-Tech wrote:

I did not know that natural competitors used diuretics, that is surprising to me if true. .


I don't think it is.



Yes cutting the quote down and then he still doesn't say not one person uses them. He is saying its not surprising that nattys do use them. Reading comprehsion please try it


LOL

That was funny.

Also completely skipped the post where Stu specifically discussed natural diuretics.

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Professor X wrote:
ryanbCXG wrote:
Professor X wrote:
ryanbCXG wrote:
Stu never said they weren't taking diuretics......way to reading comprehension.






The Mighty Stu wrote:
Quasi-Tech wrote:

I did not know that natural competitors used diuretics, that is surprising to me if true. .


I don't think it is.



Yes cutting the quote down and then he still doesn't say not one person uses them. He is saying its not surprising that nattys do use them. Reading comprehsion please try it




Reading comprehension failure.

Statement: I did not know that natural competitors used diuretics, that is surprising to me if true.

REPLY: I don't think it is


That would mean he does not think it is TRUE. That would mean he does not think naturals use diuretics.


Coming at me like I did something wrong for showing this to you makes no sense.



Back to the topic, yes electrolyte imbalances can cause heart failure. Other things like taking too much potassium at one time can do it also.


Or it could mean "i dont think it is surprising"

But you can jump to whatever conclusions will help you sleep better tonight.

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