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test driven
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This happened in Manteca, CA. For those of you unfamiliar with the Central Valley, it's basically a place where people stop to piss on the way to LA, so I'm shocked this is getting mainstream play. Whatever...

He (felon) had no knife in his hand. He (occifer) overreacted. If you can't discern this from the video, tenderize your reproductive organs with a claw hammer, and then do 100 cartwheels with no hands.

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NickViar
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While I'm awake and posting on other threads, I might as well throw my two cents in on this one. That police officer was probably found to be justified in shooting that man. I can't see enough detail to tell whether the man was reaching in his pocket for a knife, gun, whatever. That officer was there and had a better view of the situation than any of us do. Also, attempting to run from the police, then turning to face the officer and going into your pocket is an aggressive action.

In my opinion, the officer was definitely justified. Would I have done the same thing? I seriously doubt it-not with the option to back up and take cover behind my car available to me(if there was a potential non-firearm weapon involved-if there was a firearm, then the officer did an awesome job stopping the threat before the guy got the gun out). The officer is not and should be required to retreat, however. In case I need to clarify, the above statement is assuming that the stop was legal.

Absolute cooperation during legal arrests is not optional.

Why not have schools offer classes on how to deal with the police? Keep your hands out of your pockets and in plain view, don't run, speak as calmly as possible, found out whether you are free to leave, identify yourself if you are not and you are asked to, use(not invoke loudly and aggressively while incriminating yourself at the same time) your right to remain silent, etc.

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Ct. Rockula wrote:
DarkNinjaa wrote:
Ct. Rockula wrote:
DarkNinjaa wrote:
super saiyan wrote:

Dark Rockula

or Count Ninja



Hahaha!




Darkula



Hell yeah!



Its the name ive picked out for our son.


Aw, that made me melt.

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gregron wrote:
DarkNinjaa wrote:
gregron wrote:
Side note: I wish the mods would weigh in on these reoccurring Ct Rock/DN allegations...


And why would it matter to you? Does my and Rock posting here affect the way you sleep, eat, make money, train or fuck your wife?

They don't need to weigh in 'cos there's nothing to weigh in.


So defensive... Must be hiding something.

The mods have exposed troll/multiple accounts plenty of times before... They could easily put the rumors to rest if they are in fact untrue.. It would be that simple. If I was you, I'd want them to speak up and dispel the rumors if they are false, but that's just me.


I have nothing to prove to any nosy fuckers here. The difference between me and some of you is I don't give a FUCK whatever people think of what or who I am in this place. If some of you believe that I'm the Count or a gay guy or an old white man, so be it. That wont affect the millions in my bank accounts.

Some posters have met me in real life and if I really wanted them to weigh in to dispel the rumours, I would have asked them to do so.

As for mods exposing multiple accounts, well, Rock and I would have been exposed a long time ago, don't you think so? There's nothing to weigh in. Let the rumours go on. The shit is great. Rockula and I, high five over this all day long!

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test driven wrote:
This happened in Manteca, CA. For those of you unfamiliar with the Central Valley, it's basically a place where people stop to piss on the way to LA, so I'm shocked this is getting mainstream play. Whatever...

He (felon) had no knife in his hand. He (occifer) overreacted. If you can't discern this from the video, tenderize your reproductive organs with a claw hammer, and then do 100 cartwheels with no hands.



I'll repost this for you.

http://www.news10.net/...EZ-PROTOCOL.pdf

Have fun with that hammer.

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test driven
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WN76 wrote:
test driven wrote:
This happened in Manteca, CA. For those of you unfamiliar with the Central Valley, it's basically a place where people stop to piss on the way to LA, so I'm shocked this is getting mainstream play. Whatever...

He (felon) had no knife in his hand. He (occifer) overreacted. If you can't discern this from the video, tenderize your reproductive organs with a claw hammer, and then do 100 cartwheels with no hands.



I'll repost this for you.

http://www.news10.net/...EZ-PROTOCOL.pdf

Have fun with that hammer.


This isn't a link to a video. Read my post again Opey.

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test driven wrote:
WN76 wrote:
test driven wrote:
This happened in Manteca, CA. For those of you unfamiliar with the Central Valley, it's basically a place where people stop to piss on the way to LA, so I'm shocked this is getting mainstream play. Whatever...

He (felon) had no knife in his hand. He (occifer) overreacted. If you can't discern this from the video, tenderize your reproductive organs with a claw hammer, and then do 100 cartwheels with no hands.



I'll repost this for you.

http://www.news10.net/...EZ-PROTOCOL.pdf

Have fun with that hammer.


This isn't a link to a video. Read my post again Opey.


It's an in depth report of what actually happened and includes still frames of the video which show the knife.

Inconvenient for you?

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I don't see a knife in the video, or in the stills. I do see a report indicating that a man was shot 11 times.

He was shot while untangling his feet from a seatbelt, hardly a threatening gesture.

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test driven wrote:
I don't see a knife in the video, or in the stills. I do see a report indicating that a man was shot 11 times.

He was shot while untangling his feet from a seatbelt, hardly a threatening gesture.




THIS X1000000000000

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There does look to be something in his hand, but the pixelation is too high to be able to tell that it was a knife.

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super saiyan
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LoRez wrote:
There does look to be something in his hand, but the pixelation is too high to be able to tell that it was a knife.


Oh, a pixelation problem. I guess that makes sense. I just thought he had one of those knives they used in Double Dragon.

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super saiyan wrote:
LoRez wrote:
There does look to be something in his hand, but the pixelation is too high to be able to tell that it was a knife.


Oh, a pixelation problem. I guess that makes sense. I just thought he had one of those knives they used in Double Dragon.


No luck finding photos of that. But I did find this:

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super saiyan
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LoRez wrote:
super saiyan wrote:
LoRez wrote:
There does look to be something in his hand, but the pixelation is too high to be able to tell that it was a knife.


Oh, a pixelation problem. I guess that makes sense. I just thought he had one of those knives they used in Double Dragon.


No luck finding photos of that. But I did find this:





LOL

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WN76
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test driven wrote:
I don't see a knife in the video, or in the stills. I do see a report indicating that a man was shot 11 times.

He was shot while untangling his feet from a seatbelt, hardly a threatening gesture.



Yea, I mean what's threatening about an armed felon at large trying to exit a vehicle while being apprehended.

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mightE
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Holy shit. Well I hate to say this, but it looks like cold blooded murder to me.

I mean the guy was kind of frantic coming out of there, but I don't think that's any good reason to feed em a lead casserole like that. Also is it standard procedure to cuff a corpse?

Anyway I understand why cops go around all tweeked up on paranoia. It's a dangerous profession. Sometimes it's bound to result in a situation like this.

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1. The suspect was a parolee.

2. The suspect was given verbal commands multiple times.

3. The suspect did not comply.

4. The suspect had a deadly weapon (knife).

5. Officers are trained that is suspect is within 20 feet of you, knife can and so circumstances will beat gun. If they decide to rush you before you can draw and discharge your weapon.

6. Officers are trained to 'stop the threat'. If this means 1 shot or 10, it's besides the fact.

7. Armchair QB'ing is very easy to those that have never been trained or put in that situation. That's why the courts use the way a "reasonable officer" acts/percieves/reacts etc. instead of Joe citizen who has a subscription to High Times.

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