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theBeth wrote:
I'm at a loss too


What is it that men really want in a long term partner/wife?

Apparently not a gf who wants to f*ck and blow them every day, buys them an M1A just because, cooks awsome food, rototills and plants the garden, and helps them cut down trees. Yes, and not someone who picks up a sport and learns it just to share their passion. Not a woman who gives her all, loyally, without going through his phone or keeping track of him, who always gives him his space and freedom.

So wtf makes a woman worthy of an "I love you"?


1) Daily f**k and bj...this is something that surprisingly (sadly) a lot of guys don't appreciate...I have several friends that have sex with their wives like once a month...they complain it's 'boring'...I'm like...wtf?!?! It takes two to make it boring.

2) Awesome food...again...a lot of dopey guys don't appreciate food. Sex and food and booze and a partner who enjoys all three as much as I do was pretty much how She Say and I decided to get married.

3) Rototils and plants the garden...I don't want a woman that is a harder worker than me...so..I wouldn't be your guy on this one.

4) Etc...

I don't know...you sound like a great gal if this is really you...thing is...some guys might not want you even though you are great...from what i can glean from this thread you have a guy that doesn't want you...I'd find a new guy.

My dopey brother had a gf for 10 years..she was smokin' hot...a Ravens cheerleader...carried a gun in her job as a some sort of security person...was friendly...easy to talk to...decent cook and had a suitcase full of thongs and other nice lingerie that I caught a glimpse of one time when we were all at the beach...problem was, my brother was NEVER going to marry her...treated her like shit...pretty much called her stupid in front of the family, etc...she stuck around for whatever reason then finally left...found a new guy that married her like a month later and last I heard they were happy after 10 years and at least 1 kid.

I've been married to She Say for almost 20 years. I proposed after dating for about 4 months...I knew there was no way I'd be happy without her in my life. Prior to dating She Say I dated some pretty amazing women...smart, sexy, fun to be around, hard workers, etc...but...I knew from day 1 (or so) of dating them they weren't 'the one'...no matter how much the effed and sucked me they were never going to be The One..same with cooking, rototilling, etc...

Hope this helps and encourages you to send me some naked pictures.

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I like the way this thread turned out

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Sen Say.

Can you agree that the dating game as it stands now is way different to what it was back 20 years ago? Apart from the sex and ONS which were always around, can you honestly say people haven't changed for the worst?

A prime example of this being people not looking past minor flaws or looking into developing something and always relying on "a spark".

I've found city girls to be extremely materialistic/needy/selfish/ignorant/un-trustworthy when compared to some women who were brought up in the sticks. I am not even in places like LA/New York or London for that matter.

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spar4tee wrote:
I like the way this thread turned out


If we can get that link to the pics of thebeth I'm in favor of it also...

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harrypotter wrote:
Sen Say.

Can you agree that the dating game as it stands now is way different to what it was back 20 years ago? Apart from the sex and ONS which were always around, can you honestly say people haven't changed for the worst?

A prime example of this being people not looking past minor flaws or looking into developing something and always relying on "a spark".

I've found city girls to be extremely materialistic/needy/selfish/ignorant/un-trustworthy when compared to some women who were brought up in the sticks. I am not even in places like LA/New York or London for that matter.


What's ONS?

I'll answer, but I'm not really an expert as I haven't dated in 20 years...and I don't really know anyone that is dating...however...I know I have changed...IF I was dating I think I'd be pretty good at it...I know 20 years ago people were also realying on a 'spark' and a lot of girls wouldn't give me the time of day as I didn't have it...problem was I wanted the ones that didn't want me...I know (or at least I think I know) that is She Say went bat shit crazy and left me I'd only be interested in dating women that were interested in dating me...know what I mean?

The funnyt thing is after I'd been married and a father for about 5 years I found the number of women that would flirt with me to be much greater than when I was single..I'm pretty sure it's because I was able to treat women in a way that wasn't making them think I wanted them...not sure where this tangent is going, but the thing that I have seen that has changed in the past 20 years is the methods you could use to meet women to date....20 years ago you met girls in school and that was about it...if you lost touch with one you had a crush on and vice versa good luck getting in touch...now with social media and online dating I'm not sure why you wouldn't have a different date every night...if 9 out of 10 suck and are looking for that 'spark' move on with the 1 that worked out...but the funny thing is I know a lot of guys that met someone through a dating site AFTER getting divorced and the first thing they do is move her in/get married/ etc...wtf would you do this? Got me.

Anyway...hope this has helped.

If not, one final point...Sen Jr. and Sen the Third both have recently had girlfriends enter their lives...for the most part this has been great...the downside is I don't get to take as many baths as pre-gf as the tub is down the hall and no 16-18 year old girl wants to see Mr. Say heading down the hallway for a relaxing soak, book and whiskey in hand...anyway...the girls are great...they go to my son's high school which is where I assume most mates are still found...anyway...the girls don't seem to be looking for a 'spark'...they sit around our house watching tv, playing board games, eating food...maybe my offspring are the lucky ones, but there ain't nothing new under the sun as far as I can see.

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Chushin wrote:
theBeth wrote:
Chushin wrote:
theBeth wrote:

So what does a woman do when she provides that emotional, physical and financial generosity and it's dismissed by the dude?


Beth, sadly, the world is full of people who believe that if something is offered freely and generously, it's not really of all that much value.

This is more often true amoung younger people than us old folks who have learned to see diamonds in some open and outstreched hands...

Basically, what the others have said: Move on, and keep looking. Don't let the blind guys cause you to change, because you want to be as you are now when you run into one who can see someday.

Having said all that, you also need to be vigilant against being a co-dependent, clingy type. "Open and generous" is often a masquerade for "needy."




Yup I can understand the fine line between clingy and codependent. I am definitely not clingy, I like my space and time alone. One of his complaints was lack of time together so maybe I didn't give enough of that. I'm more focused on quality. If I was getting what I needed I think time wouldn't be a problem to give. Maybe my generosity was some kind of codependent behavior, I don't know. Generosity is a trait that I was raised with so I'm not sure if I'm qualified to differentiate.


I dated a girl once and she was very clingy and codependent. It opened my eyes to what you gentlemen go through so I've been very conscious of my behavior ever since. That being said, it was the best sex I've ever had. I can see why so many fall prey to the wiles of the Vag.


Hey, don't focus too much on the last part of my post!

I was also trying to say that you're doing good stuff, and lots of young guys (in this case) just can't appreciate that.

It's ok to take "yes" for an answer sometimes, ya know! :-)


Well he is 42.... What is your "young" cut-off?

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theBeth wrote:
Well he is 42.... What is your "young" cut-off?


I'm 42 and don't consider myself young..though the neighbor's daughter always says I can pass for 26...except when I've been banging away at her for a few hours then she's like you old men can last all day...it's tough being me..anywyay...is the 42 year old a man-boy? Meaning, does he carry a man-purse and wear 'ball caps'?

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sen say wrote:
theBeth wrote:
I'm at a loss too


What is it that men really want in a long term partner/wife?

Apparently not a gf who wants to f*ck and blow them every day, buys them an M1A just because, cooks awsome food, rototills and plants the garden, and helps them cut down trees. Yes, and not someone who picks up a sport and learns it just to share their passion. Not a woman who gives her all, loyally, without going through his phone or keeping track of him, who always gives him his space and freedom.

So wtf makes a woman worthy of an "I love you"?


1) Daily f**k and bj...this is something that surprisingly (sadly) a lot of guys don't appreciate...I have several friends that have sex with their wives like once a month...they complain it's 'boring'...I'm like...wtf?!?! It takes two to make it boring.

2) Awesome food...again...a lot of dopey guys don't appreciate food. Sex and food and booze and a partner who enjoys all three as much as I do was pretty much how She Say and I decided to get married.

3) Rototils and plants the garden...I don't want a woman that is a harder worker than me...so..I wouldn't be your guy on this one.

4) Etc...

I don't know...you sound like a great gal if this is really you...thing is...some guys might not want you even though you are great...from what i can glean from this thread you have a guy that doesn't want you...I'd find a new guy.

My dopey brother had a gf for 10 years..she was smokin' hot...a Ravens cheerleader...carried a gun in her job as a some sort of security person...was friendly...easy to talk to...decent cook and had a suitcase full of thongs and other nice lingerie that I caught a glimpse of one time when we were all at the beach...problem was, my brother was NEVER going to marry her...treated her like shit...pretty much called her stupid in front of the family, etc...she stuck around for whatever reason then finally left...found a new guy that married her like a month later and last I heard they were happy after 10 years and at least 1 kid.

I've been married to She Say for almost 20 years. I proposed after dating for about 4 months...I knew there was no way I'd be happy without her in my life. Prior to dating She Say I dated some pretty amazing women...smart, sexy, fun to be around, hard workers, etc...but...I knew from day 1 (or so) of dating them they weren't 'the one'...no matter how much the effed and sucked me they were never going to be The One..same with cooking, rototilling, etc...

Hope this helps and encourages you to send me some naked pictures.



I totally get it. Part of it could be he was pretty publicly cheated on by his recent ex wife, and one ex gf he came home to find murdered by some psychotic guy who was obsessed with her. And he has the kind of job that will give you PTSD big time. That's why I gave him the benefit of the doubt for so long.

Edit: naked pics. Not even.

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theBeth wrote:
Edit: naked pics. Not even.


Angry Chicken, can you please confirm that this means TB is dying to send me naked pics and just needs me to bare my chest and gnash my teeth!?!?

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theBeth wrote:


I totally get it. Part of it could be he was pretty publicly cheated on by his recent ex wife, and one ex gf he came home to find murdered by some psychotic guy who was obsessed with her. And he has the kind of job that will give you PTSD big time. That's why I gave him the benefit of the doubt for so long.

Edit: naked pics. Not even.


wow. baggage.

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theBeth wrote:
Chushin wrote:
theBeth wrote:
Chushin wrote:
theBeth wrote:

So what does a woman do when she provides that emotional, physical and financial generosity and it's dismissed by the dude?


Beth, sadly, the world is full of people who believe that if something is offered freely and generously, it's not really of all that much value.

This is more often true amoung younger people than us old folks who have learned to see diamonds in some open and outstreched hands...

Basically, what the others have said: Move on, and keep looking. Don't let the blind guys cause you to change, because you want to be as you are now when you run into one who can see someday.

Having said all that, you also need to be vigilant against being a co-dependent, clingy type. "Open and generous" is often a masquerade for "needy."




Yup I can understand the fine line between clingy and codependent. I am definitely not clingy, I like my space and time alone. One of his complaints was lack of time together so maybe I didn't give enough of that. I'm more focused on quality. If I was getting what I needed I think time wouldn't be a problem to give. Maybe my generosity was some kind of codependent behavior, I don't know. Generosity is a trait that I was raised with so I'm not sure if I'm qualified to differentiate.


I dated a girl once and she was very clingy and codependent. It opened my eyes to what you gentlemen go through so I've been very conscious of my behavior ever since. That being said, it was the best sex I've ever had. I can see why so many fall prey to the wiles of the Vag.


Hey, don't focus too much on the last part of my post!

I was also trying to say that you're doing good stuff, and lots of young guys (in this case) just can't appreciate that.

It's ok to take "yes" for an answer sometimes, ya know! :-)


Well he is 42.... What is your "young" cut-off?


Sorry to say this, Sweetie, but he's a lost cause.

How old are you?

Is the age diff enough to cause a "power" diff in the relationship?

If so, that may be part of the problem.

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theBeth wrote:

I totally get it. Part of it could be he was pretty publicly cheated on by his recent ex wife, and one ex gf he came home to find murdered by some psychotic guy who was obsessed with her. And he has the kind of job that will give you PTSD big time. That's why I gave him the benefit of the doubt for so long.



Oh man.

That's a lot to overcome. It's going to be a long time and a lot of good therapy before this guy invests emotionally in another woman.

I guess you could be her, and I'm all about understanding and extra chances, but you better be sure that that is what you want, because it ain't going to be an easy ride.

I genuinely feel for the guy.

But you need to take care of yourself and your future foremost, IMO.

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theBeth wrote:

I totally get it. Part of it could be he was pretty publicly cheated on by his recent ex wife, and one ex gf he came home to find murdered by some psychotic guy who was obsessed with her. And he has the kind of job that will give you PTSD big time. That's why I gave him the benefit of the doubt for so long.

Edit: naked pics. Not even.


Wow that's a lot to deal with!

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Wait...nurses are skanks !?!?

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sen say wrote:
Wait...nurses are skanks !?!?



nurses are not skanks. They just know how to please their man. I am married to one.

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harrypotter wrote:

Granted the whiff of feminism is strong and your post afterwards states you want equal pay etc. Yes you can have equal pay, if the vast majority of women weren't so bad at their job or maybe take the company for all its worth by getting pregnant after the initial period so they cant lay her off without a big lawsuit.

Feminist arguments; so easy to take down.


You do know that it's the woman who gives birth to the next generation of employee's for that or another firm?

Idiot arguments, so easy to take down.

PS re-joined after 2-year hiatus, happy to see SAMA is back to a degree

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csulli wrote:
DarkNinjaa wrote:
You can't trust the pill

You... You can't?



My girlfriend uses Nuvaring.

Win-win for us.
-I could definitely feel if it's not in and she wanted to trap me
-Less than 1 mg of roids for her per week so no mood swings
-No shitty-ass condoms ruining 90% of the fun
-about 15 bucks per "cycle", bloody cheap if you ask me.

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GivehertheD wrote:
harrypotter wrote:

Granted the whiff of feminism is strong and your post afterwards states you want equal pay etc. Yes you can have equal pay, if the vast majority of women weren't so bad at their job or maybe take the company for all its worth by getting pregnant after the initial period so they cant lay her off without a big lawsuit.

Feminist arguments; so easy to take down.


You do know that it's the woman who gives birth to the next generation of employee's for that or another firm?

Idiot arguments, so easy to take down.

PS re-joined after 2-year hiatus, happy to see SAMA is back to a degree



Did you just state one of the dumbest retorts ever? Siding with biology are we? Ok, then I guess we should harp on about the advantages of men over women.

Men would win that anyday.

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harrypotter wrote:
GivehertheD wrote:
harrypotter wrote:

Granted the whiff of feminism is strong and your post afterwards states you want equal pay etc. Yes you can have equal pay, if the vast majority of women weren't so bad at their job or maybe take the company for all its worth by getting pregnant after the initial period so they cant lay her off without a big lawsuit.

Feminist arguments; so easy to take down.


You do know that it's the woman who gives birth to the next generation of employee's for that or another firm?

Idiot arguments, so easy to take down.

PS re-joined after 2-year hiatus, happy to see SAMA is back to a degree



Did you just state one of the dumbest retorts ever? Siding with biology are we? Ok, then I guess we should harp on about the advantages of men over women.

Men would win that anyday.



yup. except when it comes to sexual satisfaction.

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harrypotter wrote:
GivehertheD wrote:
harrypotter wrote:

Granted the whiff of feminism is strong and your post afterwards states you want equal pay etc. Yes you can have equal pay, if the vast majority of women weren't so bad at their job or maybe take the company for all its worth by getting pregnant after the initial period so they cant lay her off without a big lawsuit.

Feminist arguments; so easy to take down.


You do know that it's the woman who gives birth to the next generation of employee's for that or another firm?

Idiot arguments, so easy to take down.

PS re-joined after 2-year hiatus, happy to see SAMA is back to a degree



Did you just state one of the dumbest retorts ever? Siding with biology are we? Ok, then I guess we should harp on about the advantages of men over women.

Men would win that anyday.


And your counter-argument is what? Nothing, got it.

See once you grow up and see that society is quite interconnected you'll see that seeing things black and white (man vs. women, etc) and using dumb reductionist logics leads nowhere.

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sen say wrote:
the downside is I don't get to take as many baths as pre-gf as the tub is down the hall and no 16-18 year old girl wants to see Mr. Say heading down the hallway for a relaxing soak, book and whiskey in hand..


So?

They should thank their Gods that you at least wear a towel.

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theBeth wrote:
harrypotter wrote:
GivehertheD wrote:
harrypotter wrote:

Granted the whiff of feminism is strong and your post afterwards states you want equal pay etc. Yes you can have equal pay, if the vast majority of women weren't so bad at their job or maybe take the company for all its worth by getting pregnant after the initial period so they cant lay her off without a big lawsuit.

Feminist arguments; so easy to take down.


You do know that it's the woman who gives birth to the next generation of employee's for that or another firm?

Idiot arguments, so easy to take down.

PS re-joined after 2-year hiatus, happy to see SAMA is back to a degree



Did you just state one of the dumbest retorts ever? Siding with biology are we? Ok, then I guess we should harp on about the advantages of men over women.

Men would win that anyday.



yup. except when it comes to sexual satisfaction.


Yeah.

But only because they have mostly sex with women.

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