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digitalairair wrote:
Biskui wrote:
I can relate to the topic a lot.

Some background : I grew up with the internet. My first e-mail was when I was 12 years old, something like 15 years ago, iirc. Of course I quickly became attracted to erotic pictures then porn pics.

From 17 to 21, I had two addictions : porn and weed. Back then, I spent all my evenings hanging with friends or at parties (mostly with male friends, not a lot of girls in the neighborhood) getting wasted on weed and booze, listening to music. At first it was full of fun, I had friends, good ones, and fun, and lot of memories.

Then I discovered that weed + porn was an extremely pleasant compilation. I was able to fap longer and to reach ultra strong orgasms, so I started to watch porn every evening after the parties, before sleeping. This quickly became an addiction.

The porn addiction was not new. I liked to watch porn etc from a younger age without thinking about the possible social damage, but mixing it with weed was a devastating combo.

Now I can say that with that porn habit, I lost interest with social interactions. I also had less sex drive for girls and was faaaar less able to spend my time / energy into seducing girls and getting them to bed, at an age when it should have been a sport.

At the age of 21, I started to have physical issues directly linked to masturbation / porn. That changed everything.

I got shoulder pain, and some kind of lower back / butt region pain. Went to a lot of exams, and after a while I discovered that excessive masturbation damaged some muscles in the perineum region. It affected my sports playing (I was playing basketball at regional level in my country).

I decided to stop totally porn, weed, and to get some weeks off masturbation then masturbate only with my mind, etc...

I moved away from my friends, and started some introspection. I was so out of shape despite playing ball... I had bad skin, less muscle mass than ever, I was always tired... I remember being unable to sleep, being super stressed, anxious...

After a couple months, I got a girlfriend. My sex drive for her was crazy but speaking of sex, I remember having nearly no fantasies, nothing fancy, I just wanted to have sex, and I discovered that most people have secret fantasies, dreams, etc... this was not my case.

Then after some months I started to watch porn again, while being with her, and I can remember being "absent" when having sex, sometimes thinking of porn, sometimes even fantasizing about the sex we have as porn (like it was a video... how I would describe it etc)...

What I can say about porn :

- It has become harder and harder to get an erection watching porn without physical contact, while before I would get up very fast.
- When I stop porn, I first get a period where my sex drive is null, that lasts from a couple of days to a couple of weeks, then I start to get more and more sex drive
- When I watch porn, I have more trouble focusing on the sex I have with my partner
- excessive masturbation led to muscle problems and shoulder problems for me
- porn is bad when it comes to personal sex fantasy

Even today, my sex drive is lower than ever. I have hard time having a hard on from "nothing". even without porn, and at 27... THis is starting to scare me.


Actually my goal for quitting porn is to lower my sex drive. I think this might be quite opposite to some of you, who wish to increase sex drive in real life without porn. For me, I would like to lower my sex drive, period. Anyone has suggestions for this?



Get married.
Works like a charm.

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orion
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Cortes wrote:
imhungry wrote:
Cortes wrote:
Anyone who thinks porn is healthy or that it does not or can not become an ENORMOUS problem or addiction on par with any drug is dangerously misinformed.

The science and thousands, probably more like millions of case studies say otherwise. It is extremely unhealthy.

http://www.yourbrainonporn.com

Are you saying ANY amount of porn is unhealthy?


Is ANY amount of cocaine healthy?


Arguably, as is nicotine, alcohol....

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Alpha F
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Cortes wrote:
digitalairair wrote:

Actually my goal for quitting porn is to lower my sex drive. I think this might be quite opposite to some of you, who wish to increase sex drive in real life without porn. For me, I would like to lower my sex drive, period. Anyone has suggestions for this?


1mg of Letrozole a day for a week. You'll be as stoic and unencumbered as a eunuch.



Or he could take a progestin only birth control pill.
Countless women go through this chemical castration and the result is not surprising that men have a higher sex drive - but let's not go there.
Prolactin suppresses dopamine. If he is serious about a chemical castration progestins are the way to go.
Depo Provera is a progestin shot used to treat re offending pedophiles.

I would not take any medication or herb ( nootropics ) to suppress dopamine levels directly - better to mess up the endocrine system than the brain, in my opinion.

Becoming a vegetarian/vegan would be the healthiest way to reduce his sex drive:

"A lack of protein in the diet, leads to a deficiency in the amino acid tyrosine. Tyrosine is the precursor to dopamine, a drop in tyrosine levels causes dopamine levels to drop, which stimulates prolactin release. Sufficient dopamine suppresses prolactin production. Dopamine is synthesized in nervous tissue and in the adrenals from tyrosine. This amino acid is not only the precursor to dopamine, but to the stress hormones adrenaline and noradrenaline. These two hormones are synthesized from dopamine, and when stressed they are released. The greater the stress the lower dopamine drops. Levels of prolactin can remain elevated with an unexplained cause. For example there is one case of a man drinking 3l of soy milk per day. The phytoestrogens in the soy milk increased his estrogen levels 4-fold, with a subsequent decrease in libido and erectile dysfunction. Soy intake also decreases sperm counts."

Read more: http://www.progesteronetherapy...
Under Creative Commons License: Attribution
- See more at: http://www.progesteronetherapy...



If he does have a serious problem and/or wants a better chance to fight this until he masters self-control, he could experiment with a natural progesterone cream ( over the counter ) which not only has a low concentration of the actual hormone ( progesterone ) as opposed to the synthetic and toxic drug ( progestin ) but will be out of his system in 12 hours to see if it has a tranquilizing/passifying effect when he feels the dopamine fueled need to seek sexual gratification.

However, the natural progesterone is being used in males to increase libido - though my understanding is that these males are either depressed or low testosterone. If the male is normal the natural progesterone could just have a tranquilizer effect on the brain and the instinctual drives.

My husband ingested some of my progesterone orally by mistake and he was totally out of it for 8 hours.

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Fletch1986
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I've heard that armies have used saltpeter for soldiers to reduce sex-drive. Does anyone know why that works... now I have a little googling to do...

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digitalairair
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man I don't want anything that is going to take away my testosterone level, at least not yet. I'll do it after I'm 40 when I'm done with the fitness game but right now it's too important of a hormone for all of my endeavors, artistically and athletically. I guess that's the price you have to pay. Creatives and athletes are known for having extreme high sex drives, I think the only way to do it is to rechannel that energy into your work.

Also, I found that MDMA or LSD reduces my sex drive up to 3 days. Then I'm back to masturbating several times a day.

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Cortes
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Alpha F wrote:
Cortes wrote:
digitalairair wrote:

Actually my goal for quitting porn is to lower my sex drive. I think this might be quite opposite to some of you, who wish to increase sex drive in real life without porn. For me, I would like to lower my sex drive, period. Anyone has suggestions for this?


1mg of Letrozole a day for a week. You'll be as stoic and unencumbered as a eunuch.



Or he could take a progestin only birth control pill.
Countless women go through this chemical castration and the result is not surprising that men have a higher sex drive - but let's not go there.
Prolactin suppresses dopamine. If he is serious about a chemical castration progestins are the way to go.
Depo Provera is a progestin shot used to treat re offending pedophiles.

I would not take any medication or herb ( nootropics ) to suppress dopamine levels directly - better to mess up the endocrine system than the brain, in my opinion.

Becoming a vegetarian/vegan would be the healthiest way to reduce his sex drive:

"A lack of protein in the diet, leads to a deficiency in the amino acid tyrosine. Tyrosine is the precursor to dopamine, a drop in tyrosine levels causes dopamine levels to drop, which stimulates prolactin release. Sufficient dopamine suppresses prolactin production. Dopamine is synthesized in nervous tissue and in the adrenals from tyrosine. This amino acid is not only the precursor to dopamine, but to the stress hormones adrenaline and noradrenaline. These two hormones are synthesized from dopamine, and when stressed they are released. The greater the stress the lower dopamine drops. Levels of prolactin can remain elevated with an unexplained cause. For example there is one case of a man drinking 3l of soy milk per day. The phytoestrogens in the soy milk increased his estrogen levels 4-fold, with a subsequent decrease in libido and erectile dysfunction. Soy intake also decreases sperm counts."

Read more: http://www.progesteronetherapy...
Under Creative Commons License: Attribution
- See more at: http://www.progesteronetherapy...



If he does have a serious problem and/or wants a better chance to fight this until he masters self-control, he could experiment with a natural progesterone cream ( over the counter ) which not only has a low concentration of the actual hormone ( progesterone ) as opposed to the synthetic and toxic drug ( progestin ) but will be out of his system in 12 hours to see if it has a tranquilizing/passifying effect when he feels the dopamine fueled need to seek sexual gratification.

However, the natural progesterone is being used in males to increase libido - though my understanding is that these males are either depressed or low testosterone. If the male is normal the natural progesterone could just have a tranquilizer effect on the brain and the instinctual drives.

My husband ingested some of my progesterone orally by mistake and he was totally out of it for 8 hours.


Just to reiterate, having experienced off the charts levels of prolactin as well as the near-complete eradication of E2, both of which are fabulously sex-drive suppressive, it is my recommendation that neither of these routes be pursued. Ever. Anywhere. By any man.

Again, it's not just the sex drive that is affected. I felt like someone had scooped out my soul with a melon baller.

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cstratton2
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Cortes wrote:
Alpha F wrote:
Cortes wrote:
digitalairair wrote:

Actually my goal for quitting porn is to lower my sex drive. I think this might be quite opposite to some of you, who wish to increase sex drive in real life without porn. For me, I would like to lower my sex drive, period. Anyone has suggestions for this?


1mg of Letrozole a day for a week. You'll be as stoic and unencumbered as a eunuch.



Or he could take a progestin only birth control pill.
Countless women go through this chemical castration and the result is not surprising that men have a higher sex drive - but let's not go there.
Prolactin suppresses dopamine. If he is serious about a chemical castration progestins are the way to go.
Depo Provera is a progestin shot used to treat re offending pedophiles.

I would not take any medication or herb ( nootropics ) to suppress dopamine levels directly - better to mess up the endocrine system than the brain, in my opinion.

Becoming a vegetarian/vegan would be the healthiest way to reduce his sex drive:

"A lack of protein in the diet, leads to a deficiency in the amino acid tyrosine. Tyrosine is the precursor to dopamine, a drop in tyrosine levels causes dopamine levels to drop, which stimulates prolactin release. Sufficient dopamine suppresses prolactin production. Dopamine is synthesized in nervous tissue and in the adrenals from tyrosine. This amino acid is not only the precursor to dopamine, but to the stress hormones adrenaline and noradrenaline. These two hormones are synthesized from dopamine, and when stressed they are released. The greater the stress the lower dopamine drops. Levels of prolactin can remain elevated with an unexplained cause. For example there is one case of a man drinking 3l of soy milk per day. The phytoestrogens in the soy milk increased his estrogen levels 4-fold, with a subsequent decrease in libido and erectile dysfunction. Soy intake also decreases sperm counts."

Read more: http://www.progesteronetherapy...
Under Creative Commons License: Attribution
- See more at: http://www.progesteronetherapy...



If he does have a serious problem and/or wants a better chance to fight this until he masters self-control, he could experiment with a natural progesterone cream ( over the counter ) which not only has a low concentration of the actual hormone ( progesterone ) as opposed to the synthetic and toxic drug ( progestin ) but will be out of his system in 12 hours to see if it has a tranquilizing/passifying effect when he feels the dopamine fueled need to seek sexual gratification.

However, the natural progesterone is being used in males to increase libido - though my understanding is that these males are either depressed or low testosterone. If the male is normal the natural progesterone could just have a tranquilizer effect on the brain and the instinctual drives.

My husband ingested some of my progesterone orally by mistake and he was totally out of it for 8 hours.


Just to reiterate, having experienced off the charts levels of prolactin as well as the near-complete eradication of E2, both of which are fabulously sex-drive suppressive, it is my recommendation that neither of these routes be pursued. Ever. Anywhere. By any man.

Again, it's not just the sex drive that is affected. I felt like someone had scooped out my soul with a melon baller.


Anti Depressents killed my libido and sexual function for a long time, even after weening off took a long time to fully recover.. My advice would be don't screw with stuff that effects you're sex drive because it goes hand in hand with every other function of the body... It also sucks to have your sex drive flat line I would never do anything to alter or change any part of my hormones ever again, albiet I suppose with Celexa it is more a chemical brain thing.. but sometimes messing with altering this stuff can lead to PERMANENT side effects.. Better to keep it and try to just keep your cool then lose it and never get it back.

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Started doing this, 1 day so far. Omg my fingers keep typing youpor... when I try to go to youtube. It's hard! But I will do it! I havent drunk caffeine for 3days either, had the worst headache in years yesterday!

WHAT THE FAK IS GOING ON. I've been super lethargic today, like can't do any shit. I hope this will be for the better like people say, in 2 weeks... puff!

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MytchBucanan
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NikH wrote:
Started doing this, 1 day so far. Omg my fingers keep typing youpor... when I try to go to youtube. It's hard! But I will do it! I havent drunk caffeine for 3days either, had the worst headache in years yesterday!

WHAT THE FAK IS GOING ON. I've been super lethargic today, like can't do any shit. I hope this will be for the better like people say, in 2 weeks... puff!



Stick it out buddy! Every time I went clean from caffeine I felt like a million bucks when I was done but it did take about two weeks. Just get a lot of sleep and it will get easier.

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NikH
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MytchBucanan wrote:
NikH wrote:
Started doing this, 1 day so far. Omg my fingers keep typing youpor... when I try to go to youtube. It's hard! But I will do it! I havent drunk caffeine for 3days either, had the worst headache in years yesterday!

WHAT THE FAK IS GOING ON. I've been super lethargic today, like can't do any shit. I hope this will be for the better like people say, in 2 weeks... puff!




Stick it out buddy! Every time I went clean from caffeine I felt like a million bucks when I was done but it did take about two weeks. Just get a lot of sleep and it will get easier.


Yeah, thanks for the support! Mental strength, argh!

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Cortes
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That's one of my favorite Frank Yang vids. I heart U Frank.





*Edited dumb typo

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