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FightinIrish26
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Alright, after years of having my beloved Mustang, I think the winters and the crazy-ass weather events like Sandy are finally getting the best of me, so I'm looking into getting something new that's got four-wheel or all-wheel drive and a little more ground clearance (I do a lot of hiking and backpacking and going back and forth to the gym, etc. so that's what it would be used for besides my daily commute and the associated bullshit.)

I am partial to the Jeep Wrangler and Wrangler Unlimited, but I know nothing about them. Was curious of people's opinions on them as far as positives, negatives, etc.

I've been in them and never hated the ride (my first car was a pickup anyway), but how is the handling? Does the hard top reduce the wind noise that I despise? Are these cars worth it?

I am also partial to the way the Toyota FJ Cruiser looks, but besides knowing NOTHING about them, it would also kill me to buy a Japanese car. But I'm still intrigued.

Any advice, opinions, etc. are appreciated.

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RampantBadger
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any range rover model from the last 10 years is great

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WN76
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FightinIrish26 wrote:
Alright, after years of having my beloved Mustang, I think the winters and the crazy-ass weather events like Sandy are finally getting the best of me, so I'm looking into getting something new that's got four-wheel or all-wheel drive and a little more ground clearance (I do a lot of hiking and backpacking and going back and forth to the gym, etc. so that's what it would be used for besides my daily commute and the associated bullshit.)

I am partial to the Jeep Wrangler and Wrangler Unlimited, but I know nothing about them. Was curious of people's opinions on them as far as positives, negatives, etc.

I've been in them and never hated the ride (my first car was a pickup anyway), but how is the handling? Does the hard top reduce the wind noise that I despise? Are these cars worth it?

I am also partial to the way the Toyota FJ Cruiser looks, but besides knowing NOTHING about them, it would also kill me to buy a Japanese car. But I'm still intrigued.

Any advice, opinions, etc. are appreciated.


Wranglers are for cheerleaders who go to the beach. If you must have a Wrangler, buy an old one and modify it so it's a decent trail rig. Brand new, these things are a complete rip off. They're noisy inside, handle like a cardboard box, and aren't practical at all. I can't think of one thing this vehicle does well. Most people I know who bought one loved it at first but then realized what a pain in the ass this vehicle is.

If you don't have more than 4 people to move around and are looking for something with 4x4, buy a truck. They are within the same price range as the Wrangler, capable enough to go off the road, and you have all that bed space for loading shit into on the weekends.

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harrypotter
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They work for Top Gear in most, if not all terrains, I am pretty sure they'll work for you.

Plus they are better looking than the US off-roaders.

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WN76
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harrypotter wrote:
They work for Top Gear in most, if not all terrains, I am pretty sure they'll work for you.

Plus they are better looking than the US off-roaders.


And at least double the price for a BASE model.

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WN76 wrote:
harrypotter wrote:
They work for Top Gear in most, if not all terrains, I am pretty sure they'll work for you.

Plus they are better looking than the US off-roaders.


And at least double the price for a BASE model.





pay to play.

If i was looking for a new 4x4, i'd look into a ford with the ecoBoost. Turbo 6 cylinder motors are BOSS

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FightinIrish26
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OK Range Rover guys, let me rephrase - I haven't, you know, won the fuckin lottery or anything in the last five years either.

Looking for about 30k or under.

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FightinIrish26
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WN76 wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
Alright, after years of having my beloved Mustang, I think the winters and the crazy-ass weather events like Sandy are finally getting the best of me, so I'm looking into getting something new that's got four-wheel or all-wheel drive and a little more ground clearance (I do a lot of hiking and backpacking and going back and forth to the gym, etc. so that's what it would be used for besides my daily commute and the associated bullshit.)

I am partial to the Jeep Wrangler and Wrangler Unlimited, but I know nothing about them. Was curious of people's opinions on them as far as positives, negatives, etc.

I've been in them and never hated the ride (my first car was a pickup anyway), but how is the handling? Does the hard top reduce the wind noise that I despise? Are these cars worth it?

I am also partial to the way the Toyota FJ Cruiser looks, but besides knowing NOTHING about them, it would also kill me to buy a Japanese car. But I'm still intrigued.

Any advice, opinions, etc. are appreciated.


Wranglers are for cheerleaders who go to the beach. If you must have a Wrangler, buy an old one and modify it so it's a decent trail rig. Brand new, these things are a complete rip off. They're noisy inside, handle like a cardboard box, and aren't practical at all. I can't think of one thing this vehicle does well. Most people I know who bought one loved it at first but then realized what a pain in the ass this vehicle is.

If you don't have more than 4 people to move around and are looking for something with 4x4, buy a truck. They are within the same price range as the Wrangler, capable enough to go off the road, and you have all that bed space for loading shit into on the weekends.



Interesting.

Like a pickup you mean? I used to have a Dakota but those don't come stock with 4x4, and that tends to shoot the price REALLY high. Or at least it used to.

What kind are you thinking?

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gregron
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Get a Defender 90

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gregron
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Or a G Wagon

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gregron
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How about one of these? lol

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RampantBadger
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FightinIrish26 wrote:
OK Range Rover guys, let me rephrase - I haven't, you know, won the fuckin lottery or anything in the last five years either.

Looking for about 30k or under.


What I should have said is that you can get pretty good 2nd hand deals and still get pretty much the current model

http://autos.nj.com/.../all/land-rover

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FightinIrish26
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gregron wrote:
Get a Defender 90


smartass

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FightinIrish26
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RampantBadger wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
OK Range Rover guys, let me rephrase - I haven't, you know, won the fuckin lottery or anything in the last five years either.

Looking for about 30k or under.


What I should have said is that you can get pretty good 2nd hand deals and still get pretty much the current model

http://autos.nj.com/.../all/land-rover


haha I got you. Makes much more sense.

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harrypotter
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30k dollars?


Just swipe one from one of the ghetto rats in another state.

pay the guy 10k just so he isn't gonna fuck it up completely.

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illadelphia91
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FWIW, I've been driving my dad's tahoe from 2002 with 200,000 miles on it and it's still running good. Never had any major problems with the engine and still runs great. It looks great too, people comment on it saying it looks like I got a new paint job sometimes. My dad is now driving the Suburban from 09 i believe, and almost has 100,000 miles on it and it's also running great too and never had any problems. The V8 engine's a bitch on gas though.

My uncle had a jeep cherokee (way over priced) and it's given him a bunch of problems. A/C would stop working. The battery on it died probably three times. A lot of little things would go bad on it, even thought there weren't a lot of miles on it.

hope it helps.

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WN76
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FightinIrish26 wrote:
WN76 wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
Alright, after years of having my beloved Mustang, I think the winters and the crazy-ass weather events like Sandy are finally getting the best of me, so I'm looking into getting something new that's got four-wheel or all-wheel drive and a little more ground clearance (I do a lot of hiking and backpacking and going back and forth to the gym, etc. so that's what it would be used for besides my daily commute and the associated bullshit.)

I am partial to the Jeep Wrangler and Wrangler Unlimited, but I know nothing about them. Was curious of people's opinions on them as far as positives, negatives, etc.

I've been in them and never hated the ride (my first car was a pickup anyway), but how is the handling? Does the hard top reduce the wind noise that I despise? Are these cars worth it?

I am also partial to the way the Toyota FJ Cruiser looks, but besides knowing NOTHING about them, it would also kill me to buy a Japanese car. But I'm still intrigued.

Any advice, opinions, etc. are appreciated.


Wranglers are for cheerleaders who go to the beach. If you must have a Wrangler, buy an old one and modify it so it's a decent trail rig. Brand new, these things are a complete rip off. They're noisy inside, handle like a cardboard box, and aren't practical at all. I can't think of one thing this vehicle does well. Most people I know who bought one loved it at first but then realized what a pain in the ass this vehicle is.

If you don't have more than 4 people to move around and are looking for something with 4x4, buy a truck. They are within the same price range as the Wrangler, capable enough to go off the road, and you have all that bed space for loading shit into on the weekends.



Interesting.

Like a pickup you mean? I used to have a Dakota but those don't come stock with 4x4, and that tends to shoot the price REALLY high. Or at least it used to.

What kind are you thinking?


I would recommend a fullsize. I'm partial to the F-150, but Chevy makes a nice truck, too. Like others have mentioned, look at buying a used vehicle.


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silverblood
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love my 4runner. in my opinion toyota's are one of the best. if you're looking for a p/u here are some fans that testify to their toughness

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Testy1
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Jeeps have a nice romantic image of driving around with the wind in your hair but as a daily commuter they suck.

I paid 26K for my 2012 Chevy silverado extended cab 4x4 and am very happy with it. Very comfortable with plenty of interior space. My previous vehicle was a 2002 GMC with 190K on it, that I only traded in because I had hit too many deer.

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thethirdruffian
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FightinIrish26 wrote:
gregron wrote:
Get a Defender 90


smartass



I have a Defender 90. It's pretty badass. No A/C, though. (Don't need it where I live.)

I had the 300tdi engine swapped and put into it from the 2.5 n/a diesel.

I've been running studded tires in the snow/ice here and have had zero problems.

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Ripsaw3689
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I really liked my Ford Explorer when I had one. I also drive Expeditions at work regularly. I recommend either.

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atypical1
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silverblood wrote:
love my 4runner. in my opinion toyota's are one of the best. if you're looking for a p/u here are some fans that testify to their toughness


+1 bazillion.

I've got 190k on mine and it runs like a top. It's been a lot of places and has never once let me down. It mostly carries my son and dog around but I also do some back country exploring.

For $30k you can get a nice example of one. My buddy has a FJ and also loves it. The cargo capacity of the FJ is less than my 4Runner though if that means anything to you.

I'm going to have to replace the truck at some point and I'm either going to get a Land Cruiser or another 4Runner. Seriously, I wouldn't consider any other vehicle out there for an SUV. There's none that are built as tough and these are still old school body on frame designs instead of the car based that everyone has gone to.

james


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jjackkrash
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Toyota 4-runner, Sequoia, Land Cruiser, all solid bets for reliability and performance. That said, my next SUV is likely going to be a Diesel VW Touareg. I really like the styling, milage, tow capacity, fit-and-finish and sophisticated all-wheel drive system.

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silverblood
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jjackkrash wrote:
Toyota 4-runner, Sequoia, Land Cruiser, all solid bets for reliability and performance. That said, my next SUV is likely going to be a Diesel VW Touareg. I really like the styling, milage, tow capacity, fit-and-finish and sophisticated all-wheel drive system.


I wish that Toyota would go ahead and bring it's diesel suv's and trucks over here. I'd like to try the V8 twin-turbo diesel Land Cruiser. gotta be a beast.

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BradTGIF
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GMC Terrain:

20+ City, 30+ Highway

Over 300 ponies rolling out of a 3.6L V6. Plenty peppy. My brother (who works in the auto industry and REQUIRES a vehicle that goes fast) just bought one. Plenty of space, modular seating, and the all wheel drive will run you anywhere from 26-28k ~ish.

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