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orion
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K2000 wrote:


Anyway, just the musings of a Liberal, trying to explain how I think about these situations. It's never been about trying to "take YOUR money at gunpoint" it's about wrangling with big social problems and trying to provide a safety net so that the world might be a little less harsh, for the people on the losing end.


Oh, I know that its not about taking my money at gunpoint, it is just a necessary component of it and you simply dont care.

Second, if you subsidize stupid, reckless and irresponsible behavior you will get more of it.

There is a big difference between someone in Africa, crippled by several encounters with malaria and a baby momma that has 8 different kids from 6 different baby daddies.

Third, this has gone way beyond a safety net.

Big oil does not need a safety net.

Big agriculture does not need a safety net.

Baby Boomers, the richest generation ever in US history dont need one by and large, yet they get it because they get their ass off the couch to vote for some goodies.

Investment banks do not need safety nets, nor should they have one, along with people who are deeply in debt because they studied Roumanian folk dancing, basket weaving or gender studies.

In fact, the kind of safety net you want could be incredibly cheap. Build concrete towers where anyone that wants to have gets 10 square meters, a shower, a sink and a toilet and then throw all the rice and beans at them they can eat.

Voila, everybody has shelter, noone starves and they all want to get out of their as soon as possible.

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four60
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Join date: May 2006
Location: Maryland, USA
Posts: 7330

orion wrote:
K2000 wrote:


Anyway, just the musings of a Liberal, trying to explain how I think about these situations. It's never been about trying to "take YOUR money at gunpoint" it's about wrangling with big social problems and trying to provide a safety net so that the world might be a little less harsh, for the people on the losing end.


Oh, I know that its not about taking my money at gunpoint, it is just a necessary component of it and you simply dont care.

Second, if you subsidize stupid, reckless and irresponsible behavior you will get more of it.

There is a big difference between someone in Africa, crippled by several encounters with malaria and a baby momma that has 8 different kids from 6 different baby daddies.

Third, this has gone way beyond a safety net.

Big oil does not need a safety net.

Big agriculture does not need a safety net.

Baby Boomers, the richest generation ever in US history dont need one by and large, yet they get it because they get their ass off the couch to vote for some goodies.

Investment banks do not need safety nets, nor should they have one, along with people who are deeply in debt because they studied Roumanian folk dancing, basket weaving or gender studies.

In fact, the kind of safety net you want could be incredibly cheap. Build concrete towers where anyone that wants to have gets 10 square meters, a shower, a sink and a toilet and then throw all the rice and beans at them they can eat.

Voila, everybody has shelter, noone starves and they all want to get out of their as soon as possible.



This has been done. Project or Prison, pick the poison.

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horsepuss
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Join date: Mar 2007
Location: Washington, USA
Posts: 2352

I cried 1 week ago, and technically not the first time since i was a young boy. But it was the first time i cried like that since then. I cut ties with a girl i was deeply involved with for the last eight months, it was hard saying goodbye. She wrote me a letter detailing all the good times we had together and what she was gonna miss about spending time with me. Man it fucked me up, i wept....

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nebil12
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This homeless guy asked me for money the other day to get something to eat. I come back out the store with some food to give him. He refuses it without even asking what it is.. Guess he was in the mood for beer.

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Testy1
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Location: Michigan, USA
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nebil12 wrote:
This homeless guy asked me for money the other day to get something to eat. I come back out the store with some food to give him. He refuses it without even asking what it is.. Guess he was in the mood for beer.


and that made you cry?

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csulli
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Join date: May 2012
Location: Tennessee, USA
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I just like how this thread went from a heartfelt and heartwarming post in the OP about charity and the best parts of the human spirit to scissoring.

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theBeth
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csulli wrote:
I just like how this thread went from a heartfelt and heartwarming post in the OP about charity and the best parts of the human spirit to scissoring.



My fault, I take full responsibility for that. Im getting better about it though, sometimes I type something then catch myself and delete before I press send.

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print
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Join date: Aug 2004
Location: Poland
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I wept a bit when Geno threw his 3rd pick last night.

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Waittz
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Join date: Nov 2004
Location: Florida, USA
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csulli wrote:
I just like how this thread went from a heartfelt and heartwarming post in the OP about charity and the best parts of the human spirit to scissoring.


In theory scissoring is about giving and receiving.............so im cool with it.

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conservativedog
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Let me just say it takes a big man to cry, but it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man.

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spar4tee
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conservativedog wrote:

Let me just say it takes a big man to cry, but it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man.

Yeah otherwise he'd get beat up.

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Varqanir
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Laugh, and the world laughs with you.

Cry, and the world laughs at you.

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Big Kahuna
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spar4tee wrote:




Hilarious video 10/10.

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