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twojarslave
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sen say wrote:
Anyone interested in older guns? I've read a little bit about them online, but am pretty ignorant. I'm believing Pre-WW I stuff is really expensive, but after that you may be able to pick up some historically cool stuff that would be affordable enough that you could still use them for hunting or shooting.


I've always wanted a Mosin-Nagant. I should just buy one. They are still under $200 and I have heard nothing but good things about that rifle. Rich in history too. An M1 Garand is also up there, but they are more expensive.

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I'm reading a book called Gun Guys a Road Trip by Dan Baum and he mentions a 30-40 Krag Jorgenen the he picked up for $115 '20 years ago':

http://www.gunbroker.com/...m=442945323#PIC

This one is to rich for me.

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twojarslave wrote:
I've always wanted a Mosin-Nagant. I should just buy one. They are still under $200 and I have heard nothing but good things about that rifle. Rich in history too. An M1 Garand is also up there, but they are more expensive.


$130 http://www.gunbroker.com/...?Item=443332291

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countingbeans
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kineticj wrote:
Jewbacca wrote:
kineticj wrote:

I have been looking into picking up a 9mm revolver



Very unusual weapon and would typically required a half-moon or full-moon clip due to 9mm shell being designed for semi-automatic weapons and not revolvers. Charter Arms is probably the only company that sells one that does not require some sort of clip.

Generally people only carry a 9mm (or .40) revolver as a back up to a primary weapon in the same caliber.

I would opt for a .38 or, better, .357.


Yes, the Charter Arms Pitbull 9mm is the one at which I have been looking. My wife has an M&P9C in 9mm, but she does not practice enough to be proficient with it. She's a decent shot, but is not at all comfortable with clearing ftf/fte issues. I want something that comfortably fits her hand and is about as foolproof as a weapon can get for her to have handy here at home.

I like the 9mm revolver over the .38/.357 primarily because the majority of my stockpiled ammo is 9mm. Modern 9mm defensive rounds compare fairly well with .38+P ammunition. My wife fired one full cylinder of .357 in a 4" S&W 686 and decided that was more recoil than she was willing to practice with on a regular basis. Hot .357 from a snubbie isn't an option.

Of course, If I could find a nice .357 wheelgun for her, that would give me an excuse to pick up a Marlin lever action in the same caliber. Hmm.



The one and only Charter I've had experience with had light strikes like crazy. The first 60 or so rounds that she put through it (family friend) had at least 8 light strikes. They were factory reloads, that I've shot at least 400 rounds through two different Rugar 357's and never had a light strike.

The Charter may have a "break in period" or that particular one might be a lemon.

Just saying, if you are putting your life or the wife's life on the gun, I'd put a couple hundred through it at least before trusting it.

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Testy1
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countingbeans wrote:
twojarslave wrote:


For a good general-purpose cold weather shooting glove I imagine it is like anything else. You will get what you pay for.


Yeah, my biggest concern is fatter fingers, and getting it into trigger well without putting any pressure on the trigger. (You know, shooting before I want to, lol)

So really want a slim glove that actually still keeps my hands warm enough to load another mag after a couple mins.


These are great for things requiring dexterity.

http://www.homedepot.com/...3-030/202709681

I use fingerless gloves when hunting.

My brother gave me a pair of very supple leather work gloves that would work well, but it doesn't look like he sells them anymore. They were warm enough that I wore them skiing in march. http://testedbestproducts.com/...

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Testy1 wrote:
countingbeans wrote:
twojarslave wrote:


For a good general-purpose cold weather shooting glove I imagine it is like anything else. You will get what you pay for.


Yeah, my biggest concern is fatter fingers, and getting it into trigger well without putting any pressure on the trigger. (You know, shooting before I want to, lol)

So really want a slim glove that actually still keeps my hands warm enough to load another mag after a couple mins.


These are great for things requiring dexterity.

http://www.homedepot.com/...3-030/202709681

I use fingerless gloves when hunting.

My brother gave me a pair of very supple leather work gloves that would work well, but it doesn't look like he sells them anymore. They were warm enough that I wore them skiing in march. http://testedbestproducts.com/...


I usually use a pair of glommits. I don't like having a glove between my finger and the trigger unless its really really thin.

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theuofh
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twojarslave wrote:
sen say wrote:
Anyone interested in older guns? I've read a little bit about them online, but am pretty ignorant. I'm believing Pre-WW I stuff is really expensive, but after that you may be able to pick up some historically cool stuff that would be affordable enough that you could still use them for hunting or shooting.


I've always wanted a Mosin-Nagant. I should just buy one. They are still under $200 and I have heard nothing but good things about that rifle. Rich in history too. An M1 Garand is also up there, but they are more expensive.


Another one to look at are the Mauser K98s. I've run into a couple guy's with these and the bores on them are usually pristine. Some still have the original issue papers in the butt plate.

I think they are a bit more than the Mosin's but less than the US service rifles.

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theuofh
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This is my dryfire setup. I haven't been using it long at all and it is already reaping dividends.

So far, I don't think the the drills matter as much, and it's more practice getting a good firing grip on the gun, drawing to point, then working on a clean trigger pull with front sight stable on target

I've been doing this with my play gear and also working on the draw from concealment with my carry gear.

Very good shooters have told me, you can attain a lot of competence doing this, without having to fire a single round.

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countingbeans wrote:
twojarslave wrote:


For a good general-purpose cold weather shooting glove I imagine it is like anything else. You will get what you pay for.


Yeah, my biggest concern is fatter fingers, and getting it into trigger well without putting any pressure on the trigger. (You know, shooting before I want to, lol)

So really want a slim glove that actually still keeps my hands warm enough to load another mag after a couple mins.


Polypropylene liner gloves.

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countingbeans
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Just got it put together last night.

BCM Upper
Green Mtn barrel, 1:7 in 5.56
Daniel Defense Handrail
BCM full auto BCG
Modcomp-0
BCM gunfighter charging handle medium
Anderson lower
Brownnels LPK with LG Defense trigger drop in
Magpul swag & flip up sights.

A bit heavier than I expected, and mags come in Thursday. (Shop was sold out after a show.)

Wife caught me cuddling it this morning...

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usmccds423
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Nice Beans!

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usmccds423 wrote:
Nice Beans!



lol, My buddy is convinced it is going to blow up when I shoot it because "you're an accountant, not a gun smith, better have someone look at it."

The upper came assembled from BCM, so I'm going to go out on a limb and assume it's good to go, and I can see the fowling on the bolt where they tested it... Plus the guy that pinned and welded the comp checked it out and said it was GTG.

All I put together is the lower, which is like legos... If I can't get that right (it all tests as a "go" in dry fire function testing) then I'm at a loss for how dumb I am.

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usmccds423
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countingbeans wrote:
usmccds423 wrote:
Nice Beans!



lol, My buddy is convinced it is going to blow up when I shoot it because "you're an accountant, not a gun smith, better have someone look at it."

The upper came assembled from BCM, so I'm going to go out on a limb and assume it's good to go, and I can see the fowling on the bolt where they tested it... Plus the guy that pinned and welded the comp checked it out and said it was GTG.

All I put together is the lower, which is like legos... If I can't get that right (it all tests as a "go" in dry fire function testing) then I'm at a loss for how dumb I am.


Lol, well hopefully that doesn't happen.

I've been looking into loading my own ammo, but basically the same thought has been going through my head (you're an accountant and you need all your fingers...)

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usmccds423 wrote:


I've been looking into loading my own ammo, but basically the same thought has been going through my head (you're an accountant and you need all your fingers...)


If dudes in their 70's can do it, and have been for 40 years, I'm sure you can too. Just like anything read up on how to do it, take a class, and pay the fuck attention, lol.

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usmccds423
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countingbeans wrote:
usmccds423 wrote:


I've been looking into loading my own ammo, but basically the same thought has been going through my head (you're an accountant and you need all your fingers...)


If dudes in their 70's can do it, and have been for 40 years, I'm sure you can too. Just like anything read up on how to do it, take a class, and pay the fuck attention, lol.


Lol, ya I'm not that concerned about it. I wasn't always an accountant!

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countingbeans wrote:
Just got it put together last night.

BCM Upper
Green Mtn barrel, 1:7 in 5.56
Daniel Defense Handrail
BCM full auto BCG
Modcomp-0
BCM gunfighter charging handle medium
Anderson lower
Brownnels LPK with LG Defense trigger drop in
Magpul swag & flip up sights.

A bit heavier than I expected, and mags come in Thursday. (Shop was sold out after a show.)

Wife caught me cuddling it this morning...


http://algdefense.com/...rigger-act.html

Typo on the trigger. This is it, btw. Damn thing is nuts for $65. (At least in dry fire.)

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theuofh
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Nice job on the AR. It came out nice. Are you going to put an optic on it?

Handloading is not hard or dangerous. If you are shooting a rifle, just make sure the brass is trimmed and you actually weighed your powder charge. When developing loads, start low and work up. Sure accidents can happen, but there's a lot of incidents of factory ammo blowing up in guns, so eye protection is a must. If you are interested in accuracy, it's almost a must, and can save a lot of money if you shoot a lot.

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countingbeans
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theuofh wrote:
Nice job on the AR. It came out nice. Are you going to put an optic on it?



Thanks.

Yeah, I'll get a red dot when I can group with the irons. It isn't going to be a bench gun, and I'm not much of a bench shooter. Shit is pretty boring IMO. Just isn't for me right now.

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theuofh
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countingbeans wrote:
theuofh wrote:
Nice job on the AR. It came out nice. Are you going to put an optic on it?



Thanks.

Yeah, I'll get a red dot when I can group with the irons. It isn't going to be a bench gun, and I'm not much of a bench shooter. Shit is pretty boring IMO. Just isn't for me right now.


The Aimpoint PRO is one worth looking at. It's not cheap, but not as expensive as some of the other ones, and a good value/performance red dot.

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Maiden3.16
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countingbeans wrote:
usmccds423 wrote:
Nice Beans!



lol, My buddy is convinced it is going to blow up when I shoot it because "you're an accountant, not a gun smith, better have someone look at it."

The upper came assembled from BCM, so I'm going to go out on a limb and assume it's good to go, and I can see the fowling on the bolt where they tested it... Plus the guy that pinned and welded the comp checked it out and said it was GTG.

All I put together is the lower, which is like legos... If I can't get that right (it all tests as a "go" in dry fire function testing) then I'm at a loss for how dumb I am.


Sweet rifle beans I like that. I just finished my first build a few days ago. Ill throw some pics up. I'm only missing an optic aswell, you might want to check some scopes as well as red dots such as: http://www.vortexoptics.com/...lex-moa-reticle for about 200 bucks. There is also this from primary arms: https://www.primaryarms.com/...14X_p/pa14x.htm Which I have on another rifle super cheap and works fine.

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Maiden3.16
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Lets add some more gun porn

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Maiden3.16
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Put together from scratch. Really fun and much more rewarding than buying a complete rifle.

Aero precision upper and Yankee Hill 1:7 556 16" barrel. Everything else standard mil spec.

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Maiden3.16
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Here is where I got my lower http://www.ar-15lowerreceivers...

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theuofh
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Maiden3.16 wrote:
countingbeans wrote:
usmccds423 wrote:
Nice Beans!



lol, My buddy is convinced it is going to blow up when I shoot it because "you're an accountant, not a gun smith, better have someone look at it."

The upper came assembled from BCM, so I'm going to go out on a limb and assume it's good to go, and I can see the fowling on the bolt where they tested it... Plus the guy that pinned and welded the comp checked it out and said it was GTG.

All I put together is the lower, which is like legos... If I can't get that right (it all tests as a "go" in dry fire function testing) then I'm at a loss for how dumb I am.


Sweet rifle beans I like that. I just finished my first build a few days ago. Ill throw some pics up. I'm only missing an optic aswell, you might want to check some scopes as well as red dots such as: http://www.vortexoptics.com/...lex-moa-reticle for about 200 bucks. There is also this from primary arms: https://www.primaryarms.com/...14X_p/pa14x.htm Which I have on another rifle super cheap and works fine.


Here's another one to consider:

http://8541tactical.com/...4mm-pcl-review/

The Vortex scopes are generally good and they have a no questions asked warranty. If you have any problems with it whatsoever, call them and they will take care of it.

I have SWFA's on all my rifles and am happy with them. I'm also a bit of an optic snob, but not that much compared to a couple guys I know w/ $3k+ Schmidt and Benders and Kahles. If you're using hold-overs which you probably will be and not dialing, there's a lot of good value options on the market.

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