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The scene in matchstick men when he's trying to get his prescription is awesome lol, and when he takes drugs for the first time in FACE/OFF
God bless Nicholas Cage.
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Spock81
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chillain wrote:
^^ the original book by Cormac McCarthy is pretty excellent as well
and if nothing else, you get more of a peek "inside" the mind of Chigurh
YEP! I Know! That was the first full book I actually had the patience to read since I was forced to read stuff in high school, ha-ha.
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Clint Eastwood is my favourite. I've never really thought about a least favourite.
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roybot
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Marzouk wrote:
The scene in matchstick men when he's trying to get his prescription is awesome lol, and when he takes drugs for the first time in FACE/OFF
God bless Nicholas Cage.
My major problem with Cage is that he never lets you forget that he's an actor playing a role. Even in his 'everyman' roles he behaves in a way that he'd never get away with in real life. It's behaviour that he can get away with on a movie set as Nic Cage the actor, but not on the street. Very self indulgent.
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BobParr
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roybot wrote:
Marzouk wrote:
The scene in matchstick men when he's trying to get his prescription is awesome lol, and when he takes drugs for the first time in FACE/OFF
God bless Nicholas Cage.
My major problem with Cage is that he never lets you forget that he's an actor playing a role. Even in his 'everyman' roles he behaves in a way that he'd never get away with in real life. It's behaviour that he can get away with on a movie set as Nic Cage the actor, but not on the street. Very self indulgent.
This is a great way to put it. I think the opposite is what distinguishes a great actor. You look at really good ones like Edward Norton or Kevin Spacey, and in every single role, you forget you are watching someone playing a role. I don't know what the trick is, but a good actor somehow seems completely natural and believable.
I think part of it requires not getting typecast. Especially with action stars, you never really forget it's whoever you're watching. Clint Eastwood is excellent, for example, but I never forget I'm watching Clint Eastwood playing a role. I suppose Bruce Willis is one of the ones who has been able to break away from that the most.
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Viernes
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roybot wrote:
Marzouk wrote:
The scene in matchstick men when he's trying to get his prescription is awesome lol, and when he takes drugs for the first time in FACE/OFF
God bless Nicholas Cage.
My major problem with Cage is that he never lets you forget that he's an actor playing a role. Even in his 'everyman' roles he behaves in a way that he'd never get away with in real life. It's behaviour that he can get away with on a movie set as Nic Cage the actor, but not on the street. Very self indulgent.
Yeah. Look at him V Malkovitch in Con Air.
He's the bumpkin M-vitch is the psycho. and they don't really play it like an "everyman"
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BobParr wrote:
You look at really good ones like Edward Norton or Kevin Spacey, and in every single role, you forget you are watching someone playing a role. I don't know what the trick is, but a good actor somehow seems completely natural and believable.
Exactly.
Guys like Morgan Freeman, Anthony Hopkins, and John Malkovich come to mind.
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roybot
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Iron Dwarf wrote:
BobParr wrote:
You look at really good ones like Edward Norton or Kevin Spacey, and in every single role, you forget you are watching someone playing a role. I don't know what the trick is, but a good actor somehow seems completely natural and believable.
Exactly.
Guys like Morgan Freeman, Anthony Hopkins, and John Malkovich come to mind.
Anthony Hopkins said that he recites his lines 300 times to ensure that his delivery is effortless and natural. I suspect that there's more to it than that.
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roybot wrote:
Iron Dwarf wrote:
BobParr wrote:
You look at really good ones like Edward Norton or Kevin Spacey, and in every single role, you forget you are watching someone playing a role. I don't know what the trick is, but a good actor somehow seems completely natural and believable.
Exactly.
Guys like Morgan Freeman, Anthony Hopkins, and John Malkovich come to mind.
Anthony Hopkins said that he recites his lines 300 times to ensure that his delivery is effortless and natural. I suspect that there's more to it than that.
I suspect that the attitude that makes him practice hundreds of times is that "it".
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roybot
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orion wrote:
roybot wrote:
Iron Dwarf wrote:
BobParr wrote:
You look at really good ones like Edward Norton or Kevin Spacey, and in every single role, you forget you are watching someone playing a role. I don't know what the trick is, but a good actor somehow seems completely natural and believable.
Exactly.
Guys like Morgan Freeman, Anthony Hopkins, and John Malkovich come to mind.
Anthony Hopkins said that he recites his lines 300 times to ensure that his delivery is effortless and natural. I suspect that there's more to it than that.
I suspect that the attitude that makes him practice hundreds of times is that "it".
Yep.
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Iron Dwarf
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roybot wrote:
Iron Dwarf wrote:
BobParr wrote:
You look at really good ones like Edward Norton or Kevin Spacey, and in every single role, you forget you are watching someone playing a role. I don't know what the trick is, but a good actor somehow seems completely natural and believable.
Exactly.
Guys like Morgan Freeman, Anthony Hopkins, and John Malkovich come to mind.
Anthony Hopkins said that he recites his lines 300 times to ensure that his delivery is effortless and natural. I suspect that there's more to it than that.
That's surprising to me, but shouldn't be considering the practicality of such a practice.
My assumption was that he was given license to ad-lib and therefore "appear" natural.
I respect him much more now. EXCELLENT work ethic.
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Iron Dwarf wrote:
My assumption was that he was given license to ad-lib and therefore "appear" natural.
That's exactly what the majority of screen actors do. Many find it hard to memorize dialogue precisely in the time they have and are bailed out by multiple takes.
There are performers who rely too much on the medium to cover them. It works...as long as they don't venture into live theater.
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roybot wrote:
Iron Dwarf wrote:
My assumption was that he was given license to ad-lib and therefore "appear" natural.
That's exactly what the majority of screen actors do. Many find it hard to memorize dialogue precisely in the time they have and are bailed out by multiple takes.
There are performers who rely too much on the medium to cover them. It works...as long as they don't venture into live theater.
Yeah, I've read that Mamet eats film actors alive with the cadence of his plays.
Also, (this might be pure legend/conjecture) during opening night he'll stand in the wings and make adjustments, like if there's too long of a silence inbetween dialogue and someone from the audience coughs, he writes that cough out for the following performance by elimitating or shortening the pause.
That kind of stuff impresses me.
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Viernes wrote:
roybot wrote:
Iron Dwarf wrote:
My assumption was that he was given license to ad-lib and therefore "appear" natural.
That's exactly what the majority of screen actors do. Many find it hard to memorize dialogue precisely in the time they have and are bailed out by multiple takes.
There are performers who rely too much on the medium to cover them. It works...as long as they don't venture into live theater.
Yeah, I've read that Mamet eats film actors alive with the cadence of his plays.
Also, (this might be pure legend/conjecture) during opening night he'll stand in the wings and make adjustments, like if there's too long of a silence inbetween dialogue and someone from the audience coughs, he writes that cough out for the following performance by elimitating or shortening the pause.
That kind of stuff impresses me.
Yeah. The discipline of stage acting transfers to screen acting well, but a seasoned screen actor may pick up bad habits that can't be hidden in live performance. I believe the story about Mamet using a cough from the audience as a pacing cue. Health problems aside, coughs are an subconscious sign of boredom. If a silence is too long, the audience fills the silence.
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I agree with most of the favorite actors, but no mention of Benicio del Toro? Some of his performances are phenomenal.
Odd fact- He went to school with a buddy of mine over in south central PA.
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Iron Dwarf
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SkyzykS wrote:
I agree with most of the favorite actors, but no mention of Benicio del Toro? Some of his performances are phenomenal.
Odd fact- He went to school with a buddy of mine over in south central PA.
Excellent actor. Had no idea he was from my home state.
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No love for JEREMY IRONS? Dude is awesome, Jim Cavizel, Jeffery Donavan
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Spock81
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FrozenNinja wrote:
No love for JEREMY IRONS?
OH YAH!! I have loved him since he was the voice of scar in the lion king!
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Spock81 wrote:
FrozenNinja wrote:
No love for JEREMY IRONS?
OH YAH!! I have loved him since he was the voice of scar in the lion king!
Honorable mention since he was in Die Hard w/ a Vengeance
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Spock81
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JLone wrote:
Spock81 wrote:
FrozenNinja wrote:
No love for JEREMY IRONS?
OH YAH!! I have loved him since he was the voice of scar in the lion king!
Honorable mention since he was in Die Hard w/ a Vengeance
He was also in this sex dream I had a few weeks ago!
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Top 5 Actors
Eastwood
Newman
Crowe
Freeman
Hackman
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roybot
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Gerrard08 wrote:
Top 5 Actors
Eastwood
Newman
Crowe
Freeman
Hackman
If Paul Newman was still with us, they could have made a film where he stars alongside Morgan Freeman, Gary Oldman, Hugh Jackman and Gene Hackman with cameos from Jeff Speakman and Scott Speedman.
Directed by George Tillman.
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BCFlynn
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Russell Crowe is the best
Jeremy Renner is great
Will Smith blows dog balls
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Favorites
Sigourney Weaver - Can do it all: drama, action, thriller, comedy.
Natalie Portman - Sincere/believable in whatever she's doing.
Val Kilmer - He can still bring it when he wants to.
Ben Foster - Super intensity, and we share a birthday.
Least Favorite
Josh Hartnett - 30 Days of Night (another great Ben Foster performance) was the closest I've come to liking him in anything. Other than that, he just seems awkward and out of place.
Sasha Baron Cohen - Simply not funny, and staying in-character while promoting each film is tiresome.
And for whatever it's worth, Nic Cage's last good movie was 8mm.
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