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roybot wrote:
7 Days- a doctor kidnaps and tortures a guy who raped and murdered his little girl, intending to kill him on the seventh day - her birthday. Superb meditation on revenge, guilt, and forgiveness.
I saw it, and enjoyed it up to a point. The doc seemed out of character after a while. But then again I guess I would be too if someone killed my child.
Boring. It's no wonder why this movie took so freaking long to make.
Aaron Sorkin who also wrote The Social Network, wrote this thing too.
I also thought The Social Network was boring.
*Maybe Spoilers*
The film showed too much of Brad Pitt mulling things over, sitting in one place and sighing. Hardly any baseball action outside of TV broadcasts in the background, the scenes were deliberate and felt more like little vignettes than a combined story with a narrative.
Examples:
Billy sits in the stands listening to a game
Billy has a conversation with the scouts
Billy goes to Cleveland to talk with their GM
Billy talks to Peter in Cleveland
Billy talks to Peter in an office
Billy talks to Peter in a film room
Peter does math on a computer
Billy talks to Art Howe
Billy and Peter meet with scouts
Billy picks up daughter from Ex's house
Billy listens to daughter sing a song
Billy goes to Scott Hattiebergs house
Billy watches practice.
Oh, it keeps going.
The whole movie, basically shot from the POV of Billy Beane.
Now if they were keeping true to the book, I guess that's ok, but it doesn't make for a compelling story. I wanted to see more baseball action, more interraction between the players and the manager, especially as it pertained to the wacky way they were putting their team together. There had to be confusion and dissent in the clubhouse, but the players were all portrayed as static... stagnant.
I mean, you've got a motherfucking acting BEAST in Phillip Seymore Hoffman playing the cagey Manager in Art Howe and you don't let him off the chain? He looked bored. Spoke softly.
C'mon.
*End Spoilers*
I give it a C+
Just want to point out that it's not a movie about baseball, it's a movie about how Billy Beane utilized sabermetrics and unconventional approaches to building winning teams with a very low budget. It's a movie with baseball in it, but not necessarily about baseball
I'm reading the book now, I'm taking a sports economics class next spring, and the book's about the process that GM Beane went through, a little history about him and some of the undervalued players, but mostly about the statistics and economics behind his decisions.
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BradTGIF wrote:
I finally watched "Moneyball"
Boring. It's no wonder why this movie took so freaking long to make.
Aaron Sorkin who also wrote The Social Network, wrote this thing too.
I also thought The Social Network was boring.
*Maybe Spoilers*
The film showed too much of Brad Pitt mulling things over, sitting in one place and sighing. Hardly any baseball action outside of TV broadcasts in the background, the scenes were deliberate and felt more like little vignettes than a combined story with a narrative.
*End Spoilers*
I give it a C+
Moneyball was decent. Social Network I loved, have watched it probably 5 times.
roybot wrote:
7 Days- a doctor kidnaps and tortures a guy who raped and murdered his little girl, intending to kill him on the seventh day - her birthday. Superb meditation on revenge, guilt, and forgiveness.
I saw it, and enjoyed it up to a point. The doc seemed out of character after a while. But then again I guess I would be too if someone killed my child.
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As a doctor (preserver of life) I don't think he intended to kill the guy. He thought he could, but was swayed by guilt and emotions that he couldn't articulate in words (the victim does most of the talking in the torture scenes), so he expresses them physically. After "operating on his patient" he didn't find the solace he looked for in revenge, so he started to look for other reasons to kill - that's why he kidnapped the mother of one of the other victims, and why he rang the cop, and his wife. Love the moral conflict between those four.
Excellent 'anti-revenge' movie. Solid roots in Greek tragedy with a purging of emotion at the end.
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roybot wrote:
Iron Dwarf wrote:
roybot wrote:
7 Days- a doctor kidnaps and tortures a guy who raped and murdered his little girl, intending to kill him on the seventh day - her birthday. Superb meditation on revenge, guilt, and forgiveness.
I saw it, and enjoyed it up to a point. The doc seemed out of character after a while. But then again I guess I would be too if someone killed my child.
[spoilers]
As a doctor (preserver of life) I don't think he intended to kill the guy. He thought he could, but was swayed by guilt and emotions that he couldn't articulate in words (the victim does most of the talking in the torture scenes), so he expresses them physically. After "operating on his patient" he didn't find the solace he looked for in revenge, so he started to look for other reasons to kill - that's why he kidnapped the mother of one of the other victims, and why he rang the cop, and his wife. Love the moral conflict between those four.
Excellent 'anti-revenge' movie. Solid roots in Greek tragedy with a purging of emotion at the end.
[/spoilers]
Good points, Roy.
By the way, the BEST revenge flick (and most real and consistent in emotion) was an Australian film called "The Horseman".
roybot wrote:
7 Days- a doctor kidnaps and tortures a guy who raped and murdered his little girl, intending to kill him on the seventh day - her birthday. Superb meditation on revenge, guilt, and forgiveness.
I saw it, and enjoyed it up to a point. The doc seemed out of character after a while. But then again I guess I would be too if someone killed my child.
[spoilers]
As a doctor (preserver of life) I don't think he intended to kill the guy. He thought he could, but was swayed by guilt and emotions that he couldn't articulate in words (the victim does most of the talking in the torture scenes), so he expresses them physically. After "operating on his patient" he didn't find the solace he looked for in revenge, so he started to look for other reasons to kill - that's why he kidnapped the mother of one of the other victims, and why he rang the cop, and his wife. Love the moral conflict between those four.
Excellent 'anti-revenge' movie. Solid roots in Greek tragedy with a purging of emotion at the end.
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Good points, Roy.
By the way, the BEST revenge flick (and most real and consistent in emotion) was an Australian film called "The Horseman".
Thanks, ID -I have The Horseman on my rental list after your previous review. Rental pending, although the order I watch my movies in is.. random to say the least.
Triplets will never happen. Apart from the inaccuracy-riddled article (Arnie was the dumb twin!?), none of the actors are that badly off that they'll sign for a movie with no script or director (and who pitched the idea if there is no writer?). In Hollywood parlance, "attached" means the project is being developed with certain people in mind.
Some prankster couldn't wait for April Fool's Day..
UPDATE/ EDIT:
I take it all back. I was wrong and totally underestimated Hollywood's capacity for terrible movie ideas. Arnie has confirmed that Triplets is go, shamelessly and prematurely plugging it as "real entertainment":
"I can see a poster," the actor continued. "A billboard with us three. 'They found another one!' 'Triplets!' 'Only their mother can tell them apart!' I would do that in two seconds, because that�s real entertainment. You come out with that movie for Christmas, like December 5th or something like that, and you�re home free."
First...Eddie Murphy isn't funny anymore. I don't know what happened, but I think the last little bit of funny trickled out of him in that fart scene on that Professor Clump/Nutty Professor movie. In fact, maybe the funny was just gas built up since the 60's. He let out one huge long fart in the 80's and that was pretty much all of the tacos he ever ate.
Professor X wrote:
First...Eddie Murphy isn't funny anymore. I don't know what happened, but I think the last little bit of funny trickled out of him in that fart scene on that Professor Clump/Nutty Professor movie. In fact, maybe the funny was just gas built up since the 60's. He let out one huge long fart in the 80's and that was pretty much all of the tacos he ever ate.
WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA, One of the funniest movies was created in the 90's by him and still stands the test of time as one of thee BEST comedies in his career and in general.
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Professor X wrote:
First...Eddie Murphy isn't funny anymore. I don't know what happened, but I think the last little bit of funny trickled out of him in that fart scene on that Professor Clump/Nutty Professor movie. In fact, maybe the funny was just gas built up since the 60's. He let out one huge long fart in the 80's and that was pretty much all of the tacos he ever ate.
Agreed he peaked at Raw. Now his brother is funnier.
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Professor X wrote:
First...Eddie Murphy isn't funny anymore. I don't know what happened, but I think the last little bit of funny trickled out of him in that fart scene on that Professor Clump/Nutty Professor movie. In fact, maybe the funny was just gas built up since the 60's. He let out one huge long fart in the 80's and that was pretty much all of the tacos he ever ate.
He got caught with the tranny hooker his last bit of funny died then he had to sell his soul to Uncle Walt and do Disney films.
Triplets will never happen. Apart from the inaccuracy-riddled article (Arnie was the dumb twin!?), none of the actors are that badly off that they'll sign for a movie with no script or director (and who pitched the idea if there is no writer?). In Hollywood parlance, "attached" means the project is being developed with certain people in mind.
Some prankster couldn't wait for April Fool's Day..
I take it all back. I was wrong and totally underestimated Hollywood's capacity for terrible movie ideas. Arnie has confirmed that Triplets is go, shamelessly and prematurely plugging it as "real entertainment":
"I can see a poster," the actor continued. "A billboard with us three. 'They found another one!' 'Triplets!' 'Only their mother can tell them apart!' I would do that in two seconds, because that�s real entertainment. You come out with that movie for Christmas, like December 5th or something like that, and you�re home free."
This could go horribly wrong for all concerned.
Triplets is a very bad idea, and Julius was not street smart so most people conotate that as being dumb
Triplets will never happen. Apart from the inaccuracy-riddled article (Arnie was the dumb twin!?), none of the actors are that badly off that they'll sign for a movie with no script or director (and who pitched the idea if there is no writer?). In Hollywood parlance, "attached" means the project is being developed with certain people in mind.
Some prankster couldn't wait for April Fool's Day..
I take it all back. I was wrong and totally underestimated Hollywood's capacity for terrible movie ideas. Arnie has confirmed that Triplets is go, shamelessly and prematurely plugging it as "real entertainment":
"I can see a poster," the actor continued. "A billboard with us three. 'They found another one!' 'Triplets!' 'Only their mother can tell them apart!' I would do that in two seconds, because that�¯�¿�½s real entertainment. You come out with that movie for Christmas, like December 5th or something like that, and you�¯�¿�½re home free."
This could go horribly wrong for all concerned.
Triplets is a very bad idea, and Julius was not street smart so most people conotate that as being dumb
They can't see the minefield for the explosions.
P.S. I really messed that quote up. I meant to respond to an old post and ended up editing it by mistake.
Suspect Zero - for a blatant Seven rip-off with a supernatural twist, it's not bad. Ben Kingsley does a good Kevin Spacey impersonation and Aaron Eckhart needs to give Kirk Douglas his chin back if he wants to be taken seriously.
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Elvira Mistress of the Dark.
It wasn't a bad movie but, it was really cheesy. I think Elvira(or maybe Kelly Bundy) was probably the first woman i jacked off to, giving me a fetish for goth girls to this day.
