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I was visiting friends in Nacogdoches, TX one weekend; home to Stephen F. Austin State University and also in deep east Texas. The town was a weird mix of "old south" sensibilities and suburban Houston and Dallas college kids looking for parties.

Any ways, some local blacks actually did organize a "beat whitey night" and beat up white kids, usually a car full of blacks to one "whitey", real bad asses you know? Evidently it was a recurring weekend event.

Well, the local KKK chapter organized a peaceful march in response. Guess who got the strongest negative publicity?

The group a "woe is me" sensationalistic story could be built around, both times though from a different angle.

The black dudes did make a mistake of jumping a kid in the Kappa Alpha Order fraternity outside the KA house one weekend though. Trucks blocked the road and as I heard it things got pretty sick. I guess karma is a bitch.

Moral of the story don't be a dumb ass I guess. And understand most scenarios are a two way street whether you are the initiator or receiver. Double standards built around reactionary, knee jerk temperaments are a fucking joke. Hell, objectively speaking, the Klan looked like white knights in shining armor compared to the blacks and frats, no pun intended.

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Professor X wrote:
Christine wrote:
Yeah, this thread got really silly quick.

No one defended her. The school took action and expelled her.

I really don't understand the 'debate'.



Basically this.


How is it even an issue beyond that?


This.

And seriously, if anyone on here legitimately does not understand why a white person's racism against a black person (I hate the term "black") is treated differently than a black person's racism against a white person....just crack open a history book. Or better yet, head down to some parts of the deep South, and it'll make a lot more sense.

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MentorSorg wrote:
Professor X wrote:
I have also read blogs just now of "Beat Whitey Night" and apparently authorities dictated it was not racially motivated. This seems to be some hot topic for racist blogs. There isn't much info about it at all.


You can also find out about it from established news outlets.

I'm sure the Trayvon Martin case is a hot topic on racist websites as well.

Apparently you put more faith in the workings of our authorities than I do and in their honesty (same goes for most mainstream media), which I find ironic considering you have such a problem with these same authorities who wrongfully profile your kind.

I apologize if I used the wrong tone in addresssing you.

It was nice talking with you. Take care.

He trusts the authorities when it suits his personal views. Dude is a walking cess pool of double standards and hypocrisies. When he comes to terms with the fact that he himself is a closet racist, maybe we will at least get some consistency out of him.

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MentorSorg wrote:

Apparently you put more faith in the workings of our authorities than I do and in their honesty (same goes for most mainstream media), which I find ironic considering you have such a problem with these same authorities who wrongfully profile your kind.

I apologize if I used the wrong tone in addresssing you.

It was nice talking with you. Take care.



? This post doesn't make sense. You avoided every single direct question tossed at you. You may want to avoid jumping into discussion at all in the future if avoidance and unsupported responses are all we have to look forward to.

Why would I be against this level of racial profiling yet also put faith in authority figures after what was written here?

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Edit: Nevermind.

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four60 wrote:
If I seen a Giant Kodiak Bear with diarrhea Shooting a Scar 17 at everyone within 60yrd the last thing on my mind is that the Bear has the shits.




LMFAO!


This HAS to go down in TN history as one of the best lines ever said here... along with Ct Rockula's "...mist of hatred and broccoli" line!

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Oh hey it's Brick!

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debraD wrote:
Oh hey it's Brick!


Dear lord, woman. Just do what normal people do when they're bored.

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WolBarret wrote:
debraD wrote:
Oh hey it's Brick!


Dear lord, woman. Just do what normal people do when they're bored.




I already ate =D

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debraD wrote:
WolBarret wrote:
debraD wrote:
Oh hey it's Brick!


Dear lord, woman. Just do what normal people do when they're bored.




I already ate =D


...Just watch I love the 80's. Difficult Canadian.

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The3Commandments wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Christine wrote:
Yeah, this thread got really silly quick.

No one defended her. The school took action and expelled her.

I really don't understand the 'debate'.



Basically this.


How is it even an issue beyond that?


This.

And seriously, if anyone on here legitimately does not understand why a white person's racism against a black person (I hate the term "black") is treated differently than a black person's racism against a white person....just crack open a history book. Or better yet, head down to some parts of the deep South, and it'll make a lot more sense.



I don't think there actually are people who don't understand. I do think there are a whole lot who try really hard not to....like comparing some crazy woman getting kicked out of school so fast I doubt a full week went by to a man being allowed to simply walk home without even an escort or a piss test after killing a kid.

"racism is racism" would be completely missing the point....but seriously, you know and I know and even they know that already.

But admitting no one is turning the color "white" into a scare tactic or criminal profile must be pretty tough.

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The3Commandments wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Christine wrote:
Yeah, this thread got really silly quick.

No one defended her. The school took action and expelled her.

I really don't understand the 'debate'.



Basically this.


How is it even an issue beyond that?


This.

And seriously, if anyone on here legitimately does not understand why a white person's racism against a black person (I hate the term "black") is treated differently than a black person's racism against a white person....just crack open a history book. Or better yet, head down to some parts of the deep South, and it'll make a lot more sense.

This argument is so tired. We don't live in the 1830's or even 1960's. It's a new generation closer than ever to genuine equality; double standards hold that progress back by institutionalizing differences whether it is with good intent or bad, as in the case of racial profiling. Either way, intent is not all that matters.

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The3Commandments wrote:

This.

And seriously, if anyone on here legitimately does not understand why a white person's racism against a black person (I hate the term "black") is treated differently than a black person's racism against a white person....just crack open a history book. Or better yet, head down to some parts of the deep South, and it'll make a lot more sense.


Yeah but lumping all "whites" together is not right either. My family didn't come to the US until after slavery had been abolished for 30+ years. And from what I have read, being Irish in America during that time was no picnic.

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waldo21212 wrote:
The3Commandments wrote:

This.

And seriously, if anyone on here legitimately does not understand why a white person's racism against a black person (I hate the term "black") is treated differently than a black person's racism against a white person....just crack open a history book. Or better yet, head down to some parts of the deep South, and it'll make a lot more sense.


Yeah but lumping all "whites" together is not right either. My family didn't come to the US until after slavery had been abolished for 30+ years. And from what I have read, being Irish in America during that time was no picnic.



"The majority" is what gets lumped together since "the majority" is pretty much in control of most of America. Once again, that is why I keep mentioning AUTHORITY FIGURES....because minorities are the ones at risk of losing out by the people chosen to "protect".

I am not in control of another man's actions just like you aren't. It is not my fault that some other black guy steals a car across town. It isn't your fault that this kid was targeted, but one thing we do know is that authority figures had a racial profile....not an "action profile".

Trayvon fit the description because of his skin color. That was why he was followed and that is why he is now dead.

He died because he was essentially being held accountable for the actions of others....things he had no control over.

If you can't see the problem there even after a story like this, it is just because you don't want to.

No white person is at risk of the same tonight. You won't be targeted and shot tonight by AUTHORITY FIGURES just for being white.

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Professor X wrote:
waldo21212 wrote:
The3Commandments wrote:

This.

And seriously, if anyone on here legitimately does not understand why a white person's racism against a black person (I hate the term "black") is treated differently than a black person's racism against a white person....just crack open a history book. Or better yet, head down to some parts of the deep South, and it'll make a lot more sense.


Yeah but lumping all "whites" together is not right either. My family didn't come to the US until after slavery had been abolished for 30+ years. And from what I have read, being Irish in America during that time was no picnic.



"The majority" is what gets lumped together since "the majority" is pretty much in control of most of America. Once again, that is why I keep mentioning AUTHORITY FIGURES....because minorities are the ones at risk of losing out by the people chosen to "protect".

I am not in control of another man's actions just like you aren't. It is not my fault that some other black guy steals a car across town. It isn't your fault that this kid was targeted, but one thing we do know is that authority figures had a racial profile....not an "action profile".

Trayvon fit the description because of his skin color. That was why he was followed and that is why he is now dead.

He died because he was essentially being held accountable for the actions of others....things he had no control over.

If you can't see the problem there even after a story like this, it is just because you don't want to.

No white person is at risk of the same tonight. You won't be targeted and shot tonight by AUTHORITY FIGURES just for being white.


I was with you until you then tried to abstract 'profiling' from the Trayvon case. He fit the description of prior break-ins, it just so happened to be that the description was young and black.

If tonight in my town, a mid 20s white male breaks some law the causes police be on the lookout, and I am wandering the streets as a mid 20s white male who matches his description, I will be 'profiled.' That's not racial profiling, that's police work(or neighborhood watch work, but that discussion is for the actual Trayvon thread).

This post is in no way asserting that racial profiling hasn't ever or doesn't still happen, but the Trayvon case is a terrible example.

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red04 wrote:

I was with you until you then tried to abstract 'profiling' from the Trayvon case. He fit the description of prior break-ins, it just so happened to be that the description was young and black.


I'm sorry, this changes what I wrote, how? I have "fit the description" more than once in my life. Sometimes, it didn't even matter what car the "suspect" was driving.



If tonight in my town, a mid 20s white male breaks some law the causes police be on the lookout, and I am wandering the streets as a mid 20s white male who matches his description, I will be 'profiled.' That's not racial profiling, that's police work(or neighborhood watch work, but that discussion is for the actual Trayvon thread).

This post is in no way asserting that racial profiling hasn't ever or doesn't still happen, but the Trayvon case is a terrible example.


?? But, we are talking some pretty huge numbers with regards to racial profiling...not some rare case where all police go looking for a "mid 20's white male". I mean...that is what...damn near all of them? LOL

I mean, we aren't even getting into length of hair, build, or anything else...just "young and black". Well, damn...that sure does include a hell of a lot of us...and it sure as hell does happen often.

I mean, until I got my new car, getting pulled over in this city was an expected occurrence. I guess a shit load of us "fit the description"....while all you can come up with is some rare scenario that likely won't ever happen.

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http://www.aclu.org/...acial-profiling


"These findings demonstrate clear and significant racial disparities in the way in which motorists are treated once they have been stopped by law enforcement. The report found that blacks and Hispanics were roughly three times as likely to be searched during a traffic stop, blacks were twice as likely to be arrested and blacks were nearly four times as likely to experience the threat or use of force during interactions with the police.


Also, if "young and black" sounds like a good enough description to you to start pulling people over...something is wrong.

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http://miamiherald.typepad.com/...d-your-gro.html


In 2005, Democrats predicted racial profiling, regrettable deaths and future repeal of Stand Your Ground

In 2005, several Democrats in Florida?s House of Representatives predicted the Stand Your Ground law would lead to tragic deaths, racial profiling and a case of legislative regret?predictions that seem eerily prescient in the wake of the shooting death of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin.

Read more here: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/...l#storylink=cpy


I guess it is easier to just assume all of those black people are crazy and just seeing things.

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Professor X wrote:
http://miamiherald.typepad.com/...d-your-gro.html


In 2005, Democrats predicted racial profiling, regrettable deaths and future repeal of Stand Your Ground

In 2005, several Democrats in Florida?s House of Representatives predicted the Stand Your Ground law would lead to tragic deaths, racial profiling and a case of legislative regret?predictions that seem eerily prescient in the wake of the shooting death of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin.

Read more here: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/...l#storylink=cpy


I guess it is easier to just assume all of those black people are crazy and just seeing things.

So far the assumption is accurate.

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its just Kappa Alpha Order, not Kappa Alpha Order fraternity. Its a social fraternity but you dont put fraternity at the end like you do with other houses. FYI

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man, the youtube comments about this chick are brutal. Makes humans look like a horrible species.
I was racially profiled 3 times on 1 single trip 2 europe. 2 were at gun point (france) 1 was a detainment (england). I dont blame them. it was a horrible experience. I was shown a lot of hate in france (and I am french). When I came back and tried to deal with americans i found the relations to how I was treated overseas the same how others were treated over hear. Best way to end this thread is. "STOP! Hatin's bad" - The redfoo

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Professor X wrote:
http://www.aclu.org/...acial-profiling


"These findings demonstrate clear and significant racial disparities in the way in which motorists are treated once they have been stopped by law enforcement. The report found that blacks and Hispanics were roughly three times as likely to be searched during a traffic stop, blacks were twice as likely to be arrested and blacks were nearly four times as likely to experience the threat or use of force during interactions with the police.


Also, if "young and black" sounds like a good enough description to you to start pulling people over...something is wrong.


I drive along I-94 in my daily commute, which is a known drug corridor between Detroit and Chicago. It is a very common occurrence to see a vehicle stopped by the state police with it's contents piled on the side of the road and the occupants of the vehicle standing at the front of the police car.

I can honestly say that not once in six years of driving this route do I recall those occupants being white.

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