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chilco
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So I'm lounging in my crib watching a Starz western called Chato's Land starring the long deceased actor Charles Bronson.
Bronson plays a pissed off indian hell bent on revenge.
And as I watch i'm simply amazed at this guys physique.

By all accounts Bronson was about 45-50 years old or older when he made this flick.
Dude was ripped to the bone and symmetrical. So I sit here wondering how he achieved such a physique back before the days of the Hollywood personal trainers and diet gurus?

I often here guys say they want to look like Brad Pitt, but if they would get a glimpse of Bronson in his prime and well beyond it, they'd have to say forget Brad Pitt, I wanna look like that guy.
I haven't been able to dig up much on how he got this amazing physique, although just about every search makes mention of it.

In my humble opinion Charles Bronson would make todays supposed hard bodies look like weiners. Hard scrabble coal miner roots with granite muscle to go along with it.
I'm just sayin'.

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Uncle Gabby
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Bronson did have a hell of a lean-muscular physique for his day. If he was around today, he'd be comparable to Stallone or Arnold (hollywood years, not bodybuilding).

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Good ol' uncle Charlie. He was a badass. ... Deathwish. Bronson pwns you and your ilk.

Seriously though, one has to wonder. Where are those kind of men of yesteryear? The Bronsons, the Eastwoods, Paul Newman ( and hundreds more I could list believe me)... a dead breed. They weren't huge but they were strong, in more ways than one. Don't give me all this bullshit about estrogen in the water. .

Would Bronson come on this website and cry about that shit? Hell No. I do NOT believe there is some physical reason that men are not behaving as men. I said in a post nobody probably read that I believe it is purely environmental. Tough children come from tough parents who buck and fight and make their way.

Maybe you should put down the fucking controller to your Xbox and behave like a man. Nobody cares about your gamer points in Gears of fucking War 2. Who are you people looking up to?? Who are your heros? The dude that outscored your ass? As my dying father said to me.. 'you've got to have hero's.' Seriously, this shit isn't funny anymore.

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Yep. I've always admired Bronson since the 70's, and I even did a drawing of him which was my avatar here a while ago.

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Bore a terrible resemblance to Manny Pacquiao.

Could act though...

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Yup, Eastwood, Newman, Bronson, , Redford, Reynolds, Lancaster, William Holden, bad asses for sure. Some of their movies are over thirty years old and I still get excited to seem em when there on. Can't say the same for many modern actors or movies. Aw hell, maybe I'm just getting old.

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Dedicated wrote:
Yup, Eastwood, Newman, Bronson, , Redford, Reynolds, Lancaster, William Holden, bad asses for sure. Some of their movies are over thirty years old and I still get excited to seem em when there on. Can't say the same for many modern actors or movies. Aw hell, maybe I'm just getting old.

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You and me both. William Holden is still my hero. He always played the smartass, the cynic, but when it came down to it you know he was going to do the right thing, and be the first to call himself a sucker for doing it.

Every book I've ever read about hollywood says Burt Lancaster was notorious for treating women like garbage, and they loved him for it. There might be a lesson there if I wasn't too dumb to see it.

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I loved him, Oates, and Borgnine, in The Wild Bunch. Sam Peckinpah, another bad ass who was a pretty horrid person due to alcoholism and mental illness in real life made and directed some killer movies.

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IvanDmitritch
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If you ever get a chance, check him out in The Magnificent Seven. I couldn't find a good picture, but he's pretty damn big for 1960's Hollywood.

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Aside from Clint, there's one tough guy left:
http://answers.yahoo.com/...05205628AAe51Ts

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Dedicated wrote:
Yup, Eastwood, Newman, Bronson, , Redford, Reynolds, Lancaster, William Holden, bad asses for sure. Some of their movies are over thirty years old and I still get excited to seem em when there on. Can't say the same for many modern actors or movies. Aw hell, maybe I'm just getting old.

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What about James Coburn, and Steve McQueen?

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imhungry wrote:
Dedicated wrote:
Yup, Eastwood, Newman, Bronson, , Redford, Reynolds, Lancaster, William Holden, bad asses for sure. Some of their movies are over thirty years old and I still get excited to seem em when there on. Can't say the same for many modern actors or movies. Aw hell, maybe I'm just getting old.

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What about James Coburn, and Steve McQueen?


Coburn and McQueen were cool motherfuckers, but skinny as shit. Eastwood, Newman, Lancaster, Holden, Bronson and Reynolds all carried some muscle in their day.

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Uncle Gabby wrote:
imhungry wrote:
Dedicated wrote:
Yup, Eastwood, Newman, Bronson, , Redford, Reynolds, Lancaster, William Holden, bad asses for sure. Some of their movies are over thirty years old and I still get excited to seem em when there on. Can't say the same for many modern actors or movies. Aw hell, maybe I'm just getting old.

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What about James Coburn, and Steve McQueen?

Coburn and McQueen were cool motherfuckers, but skinny as shit. Eastwood, Newman, Lancaster, Holden, Bronson and Reynolds all carried some muscle in their day.


Shit, I wasn't thinking of muscle....

Kirk Douglas

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Robert Mitchum, not big by today's standards, but definitely a threatening guy

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chilco
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Mad_Duck wrote:
Robert Mitchum, not big by today's standards, but definitely a threatening guy



Jack Palance was a bad mo fo and a big strappin' dude, save for the mug!

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The Hollywood actors these days just don't have the character of the 60's actors. A lot of the old school actors served in the military during WWII, and had hobbies like driving race cars or motocross. Just don't see that today.

There are still a few tough guys around Hollywood, they just don't get much air time. Watch Mickey Rourke in the Get Carter remake with Stallone.

Add Charlton Heston to that list.

And if you're looking for some great old school movies to watch, "The Last Hard Men" won't disappoint.

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chilco wrote:
Mad_Duck wrote:
Robert Mitchum, not big by today's standards, but definitely a threatening guy


Jack Palance was a bad mo fo and a big strappin' dude, save for the mug!


Fun Fact the guy in all kinds of westerns someone that looks like a Jack,good old american cowboy was named Volodymyr Palahniuk

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Charles Bronson was a great actor for the roles he played. He was a little guy, but a great big screen presence.
Can't believe he died 5 years ago...

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Gregus
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What changed today is that hollywood wants men that are pretty. The actors from the past were not pretty boys. They were serious looking and some almost ugly. It's what made them "manly" or at least that was the definition of a male in that generation past. In this generation males are metro, soft and closer to feminine then masculine. Sure some carry muscle but the way it was carried by bronson, eastwood, stallone etc etc...

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Bronson trained continually. You get a glimpse of this in and old movie with Jan-Michael Vincent in which he plays a paid assassin. Run, lift, train like you're job required you to hunt people. You'd train like a motherfucker too if you train like you were going to hunt people.

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imhungry wrote:
Dedicated wrote:
Yup, Eastwood, Newman, Bronson, , Redford, Reynolds, Lancaster, William Holden, bad asses for sure. Some of their movies are over thirty years old and I still get excited to seem em when there on. Can't say the same for many modern actors or movies. Aw hell, maybe I'm just getting old.

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What about James Coburn, and Steve McQueen?



Yeah, I liked them both. Coburn as well as Kris Kristofferson were great in Pat Garret and Billy The Kid directed by good ol Sam Peckinpah. Check it out if you haven't better then that douchebag Emilio's version IMO.

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timbofirstblood
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Uncle Gabby wrote:
Coburn and McQueen were cool motherfuckers, but skinny as shit. Eastwood, Newman, Lancaster, Holden, Bronson and Reynolds all carried some muscle in their day.


Not really though. Charles Bronson was a badass physically, but none of the rest of those guys are that jacked. There's no way Paul Newman was more jacked than Steve McQueen. What made these guys so cool was their attitude and manliness, not their physiques.

If you're looking purely at muscle mass, the physiques are better in Hollywood today. Unfortunately, as someone else pointed out in this thread, the actors today tend more to be pretty boys than the hard-asses we're discussing in this thread.

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timbofirstblood
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Did any of you see Appalloosa? It's a Western that came out a little while ago with Ed Harris and Viggo Mortenson. Those guys are two actors that I would definitely consider pretty bad-ass.

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