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imhungry wrote:
Viernes wrote:
Iron Dwarf wrote:
Viernes wrote:

So this is what a hyjack looks like...



Is it because RV replied or do you all just want to shit on the thread entire



Did you reverse the last 2 words to sound poetic?



Depends on if it gave you a boner or not.

Don't derail this thread with boner talk, sir.


My apologies, not sure if I'd be able to sleep tonight knowing I disrupted the turtle adoration

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roybot
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strangemeadow wrote:
strangemeadow wrote:
So who is? And what I mean is who is the best overall guitar player in what I consider two important aspects:
1. Can actually play well, is technically proficient. Doesn't have to be EVH, Paul Gilbert or Yngwie. Someone like Slash is acceptable. If you think Kurt Cobain would be acceptable, you'd be wrong, in that he was a good songwriter, but wasn't a very capable player. Slash is both. Angus isn't.
2. Can write good songs. By good I mean "catchy". That could be Dimebag "catchy" or Tom Scholz "catchy".
This isn't about being influential, although that's a bonus.
What say you?


I'm reposting the original objective in hopes of getting back on track. Reread "by good I mean catchy"
Can we agree it's really hard to whistle a DT or Animals As Leaders melody, riff or solo, regardless of how awesome they are as players and composers?
Or maybe my whistling skills suck.........


Not trying to be profound, but a high level of musicianship can work against quality of songwriting. DT pulls it together sometimes with their 'simpler' offerings:



Unfortunately they're more likely to fall foul of the 'supergroup's curse' and write songs to showcase their ability, rather than just play the best songs they can write.


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Viernes wrote:
imhungry wrote:
Viernes wrote:
Iron Dwarf wrote:
Viernes wrote:

So this is what a hyjack looks like...



Is it because RV replied or do you all just want to shit on the thread entire



Did you reverse the last 2 words to sound poetic?



Depends on if it gave you a boner or not.

Don't derail this thread with boner talk, sir.


My apologies, not sure if I'd be able to sleep tonight knowing I disrupted the turtle adoration

Since Sperm Whales are my favorite whale, I'll accept your apology.

Now that we got that out of the way, I now feel comfortable enough to move on with the original topic.

I'm a huge fan of tortoises, too..... just had to get that out of my system.

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imhungry wrote:
Viernes wrote:
imhungry wrote:
Viernes wrote:
Iron Dwarf wrote:
Viernes wrote:

So this is what a hyjack looks like...



Is it because RV replied or do you all just want to shit on the thread entire



Did you reverse the last 2 words to sound poetic?



Depends on if it gave you a boner or not.

Don't derail this thread with boner talk, sir.


My apologies, not sure if I'd be able to sleep tonight knowing I disrupted the turtle adoration

Since Sperm Whales are my favorite whale, I'll accept your apology.

Now that we got that out of the way, I now feel comfortable enough to move on with the original topic.

I'm a huge fan of tortoises, too..... just had to get that out of my system.

it had to be done



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Gettnitdone wrote:
Jimi Hendrix

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its funny that this took actually 3 posts

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one of the most under rated guitar players out there and when I really think about it my top pick. plays all styles, writes, produces. you can tell that Nuno Bettencourt loves to play.







includes the flight of the wounded bumblebee

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Ric Emmett of Triumph and Pat Travers are two guys I have liked for decades

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Otto the Ecto
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x2 on Randy Rhoads...

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SkyNett wrote:
imhungry wrote:
Iron Dwarf wrote:
SteelyD wrote:
My favorite mailbox color is green.



Like a turtle.


I just ADORE turtles.


Me too. I just love everything about them....I gotta say....I'm a turtle fan!!


Two of the Turtles sang for Zappa, coincidence?

http://en.wikipedia.org/...i/Flo_%26_Eddie

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I've always been partial to Jimmy Page. No it wasn't always about dexterity but his song-structure and writing skills were fantastic. Not to mention his proficiency in the studio as a producer. Plus no one looked cooler playing a low-strung Les Paul than he.

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Haven't read past the first page, but not sure how anyone thinks the answer isn't "Jimi Hendrix". Rock isn't about technical proficiency, or playing a billion different chords, Rock is about making you feel the music. Jimi Hendrix has affected and influenced literally every single guitarist since, and his brief catalogue of music is UNBELIEVABLY deep.

Eric Clapton himself says Hendrix is in a ballpark by himself, and he's right. Peope can throw out obscure guitarists to sound cool, or other greats to play Devil's advocate, but as rock'n'roll as they might be, they're not rock'n'roll. Jimi Hendrix is rock'n'roll, and everyone else is competing for second place.

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WhiteFlash wrote:
Haven't read past the first page, but not sure how anyone thinks the answer isn't "Jimi Hendrix". Rock isn't about technical proficiency, or playing a billion different chords, Rock is about making you feel the music. Jimi Hendrix has affected and influenced literally every single guitarist since, and his brief catalogue of music is UNBELIEVABLY deep. Eric Clapton himself says Hendrix is in a ballpark by himself, and he's right. Peope can throw out obscure guitarists to sound cool, or other greats to play Devil's advocate, but as rock'n'roll as they might be, they're not rock'n'roll. Jimi Hendrix is rock'n'roll, and everyone else is competing for second place.


So you and RV agree.

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Really? We should listen to Eric Clapton? Half of his biggest hits were JJ Cale covers or done with help from the aforementioned Allman Bro, who actually came up with the Layla riff, as well as the awesome slide solo.
Just cuz some one spray painted "Clapton is God" on a wall doesn't mean he is.
Sheesh.....

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Kirk Hammett.

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strangemeadow
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Hammett =

I quit.

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I think Dave Mustaine deserves a mention





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What's wrong with Kurt Hammett?



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Viernes wrote:
What's wrong with Kurt Hammett?




http://names.whitepages.com/Ku...

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strangemeadow
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Viernes wrote:
What's wrong with Kurt Hammett?





Holy shit, you're kidding, right? He writes almost none of the songs and his solos are so stiff feeling and rehearsed they don't even sit in the mix very well. Except for Justice and Death Magnetic it's pretty sad.....and if you took away his CryBaby he'd have no balls at all.

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strangemeadow wrote:
Really? We should listen to Eric Clapton? Half of his biggest hits were JJ Cale covers or done with help from the aforementioned Allman Bro, who actually came up with the Layla riff, as well as the awesome slide solo.
Just cuz some one spray painted "Clapton is God" on a wall doesn't mean he is.
Sheesh.....



By that rationale Page is omitted from the list 'cause 80% of Zep songs are STOLEN old Delta blues songs that were changed just enough to not give credit or royalties to the originators.

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strangemeadow
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WhiteFlash wrote:
strangemeadow wrote:
Really? We should listen to Eric Clapton? Half of his biggest hits were JJ Cale covers or done with help from the aforementioned Allman Bro, who actually came up with the Layla riff, as well as the awesome slide solo.
Just cuz some one spray painted "Clapton is God" on a wall doesn't mean he is.
Sheesh.....



By that rationale Page is omitted from the list 'cause 80% of Zep songs are STOLEN old Delta blues songs that were changed just enough to not give credit or royalties to the originators.


Well, 80% is an exaggeration, but Zep has made a few payouts, quietly, over the years. Hey, at least Willy Dixon got a little scratch out of it.

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Hammet has been w Metalica since ever since man. He's doing something right.

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Viernes wrote:
Hammet has been w Metalica since ever since man. He's doing something right.



Yea, he's not Dave Mustaine and sits back while Lars and James run the band into the ground...if you call that "doing something right"

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seen hendrix, and a ton of his videos.. never seen him play clean like this . as fast as this, and this man is doing it at a younger age than hendrix was..

like i said on a previous post here. how you supose to judge who the best is??

whats the criteria? the rules? whats the judge looking for? lol!!!

cant go by the top 100 guitar players of all time magazines..

one pole joni mitchell was ahead of carlos santana.. in another best 100 guitarists off all time, kurt cobaine was ahead of rory gallagher..

hahahahahahahahahaha.

seen a rare interview maybe 40 years ago,jimi said the lead guitar player of chicago was far better than he was..

if the song has a good beat, i'll probably like it..

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Gotta post some Alex Lifeson here. I'm biased as fuck, but I think he's one of the most under-appreciated guitarists out there.

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