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Getting MAG-10 on a Plane
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sput79
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@Chris: I know you travel a lot. How do you get your MAG-10 pulse on the plane past security? Would they confiscate my Nalgene Bottle? I've thought of not having liquid in my Nalgene & putting the powder in a bag & then taking the label off the flavoring. I was thinking a metal thermos might work too. I'm traveling & will pulse fast or pulse feast that day.

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ZJStrope
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I'm not Chris, but I fly A LOT. I just put it in a baggie and fill water and some ice from a soda machine somewhere. I have a small squeeze bottle that's about 2.5 oz that I bring my flavoring inside of a plastic baggie in case it explodes or something.

I've brought as many as 12 baggies of white powder (MAG-10) with no problems.

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Chris Shugart
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Yes, the key is of course to add water after passing through security. I'll use a water fountain or buy a bottle of water once inside the secure area.

I've never had a problem packing powders through, even in unmarked baggies, and have never heard of anyone having that issue. But I'll usually pack MAG-10 in a smaller container than it comes in, like a Power Drive container, for easier travel. Then pack a shaker bottle or even just any empty, wide-mouth bottle. (I use the RTD bottles we have here at Biotest HQ, but a Vitamin Water bottle or similar is fine.) You have to make one pulse at a time of course, but it's easier than packing the large-size Nalgene in your carry-on.

Depending on your travel time, you could also just pack multiple bottles with the powder already in them, then add flavoring and water later. This works for most of my trips: pulse or two before leaving the house, pack 2-3 pulses with me. (I keep Mag-10 both in my Texas house and at the Biotest house in Colorado, so this works for me.)

The Intensified Flavor bottles are 3.4 oz and small enough to pass through TSA.

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sput79
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@ZJStrope & Chris: thank you for your answer & time gentleman. It sounds like you're saying MAG-10 in a plastic bottle as long as there is no water or liquid in it will make it through security. Am I interpreting this right?

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Chris Shugart
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sput79 wrote:
@ZJStrope & Chris: thank you for your answer & time gentleman. It sounds like you're saying MAG-10 in a plastic bottle as long as there is no water or liquid in it will make it through security. Am I interpreting this right?



Yes.

I've even added the flavoring system to the dry powder so I would not have to pack the flavoring bottles. This works pretty well though it does require extra shaking to mix it up.

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sput79
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@Chris: Awesome, thank you! Just didn't want to get a perfectly good bottle taken from me & always like having a game plan. Thank you so much.

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alexbo
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Hi CS, i hate to post on other's topic but I can't use the PM system.

anyways, here is the quesion: is the MAG-10 with flavoring already add in the powder or do we have to use the flavoring bottles? (my order is still on the road)

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Chris Shugart
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The Intensified Flavoring is added separately to Mag-10 by you so you can choose the flavor and adjust it to your liking.

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buffd_samurai
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I have one not too happy incident to share.

I travel quite a bit now for business, and often times I am gone for a week at a time. For most of these longer travels, I pack a whole tub of MAG-10 and flavoring in my non-carry on baggage as well as Indigo.

A month ago, upon picking up my baggage from the baggage claim and arriving at my hotel, I discovered that my Indigo and MAG-10 and flavoring were STOLEN. Everything else was there, but the MAG-10/Indigo were not. My shaker bottle was there, my other supplements that I normally take with me were there (Rhodiola, ElitePro minerals for example), but the space that would normally house my MAG-10/Indigo and flavoring were GONE.

I was quite upset.

As MAG-10 and Indigo gain more popularity, and because of the still perceived high cost, these supplements are of quite some value. I haven't had this incidence happen again but I am trying to find ways to better disguise the powder. I've gone so far as to take one of my old mylar bags from another raw protein company with the Whey Isolate label on it and load the whole MAG-10 tub into it. I've taken regular vitamin bottles and loaded those with my Indigo now. Never had to worry about this before, and it is a damn shame we can't lock our baggage anymore.

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jppage
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buffd_samurai wrote:
I have one not too happy incident to share.

I travel quite a bit now for business, and often times I am gone for a week at a time. For most of these longer travels, I pack a whole tub of MAG-10 and flavoring in my non-carry on baggage as well as Indigo.

A month ago, upon picking up my baggage from the baggage claim and arriving at my hotel, I discovered that my Indigo and MAG-10 and flavoring were STOLEN. Everything else was there, but the MAG-10/Indigo were not. My shaker bottle was there, my other supplements that I normally take with me were there (Rhodiola, ElitePro minerals for example), but the space that would normally house my MAG-10/Indigo and flavoring were GONE.

I was quite upset.

As MAG-10 and Indigo gain more popularity, and because of the still perceived high cost, these supplements are of quite some value. I haven't had this incidence happen again but I am trying to find ways to better disguise the powder. I've gone so far as to take one of my old mylar bags from another raw protein company with the Whey Isolate label on it and load the whole MAG-10 tub into it. I've taken regular vitamin bottles and loaded those with my Indigo now. Never had to worry about this before, and it is a damn shame we can't lock our baggage anymore.


That is a shitty thing to happen buffd.

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Chris Shugart
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Hate to hear that, buffd. Wonder if it was TSA or a baggage handler?

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buffd_samurai
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Chris Shugart wrote:
Hate to hear that, buffd. Wonder if it was TSA or a baggage handler?


Unfortunately, I don't think we will ever know. Just got back from my latest trip though....no problems with my new disguising technique!

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idaho
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Gentlemen,
As a former narc, who has worked in several third-world countries, I would advise againist taking your supplements, especially anything in baggies that is "white powder". You can scream all you want to a customs guy, but, I would not want to take the chance of them pulling you from the line , just to use a NIK kit on your powder. A bottle or container will at least help you get through a screening.

Just to point out an example: I came through Dubai last spring and got pulled. They went through my backback because, I had four bottles of supplements(that showed on X-ray) (ZMA, Alpha Male, GNC Multi, C-1000) They took them all because, "we dont know what these pills are" ..Dickheads..probably took them home......Just a word of caution.

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buffd_samurai
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idaho wrote:
Gentlemen,
As a former narc, who has worked in several third-world countries, I would advise againist taking your supplements, especially anything in baggies that is "white powder". You can scream all you want to a customs guy, but, I would not want to take the chance of them pulling you from the line , just to use a NIK kit on your powder. A bottle or container will at least help you get through a screening. Just to point out an example: I came through Dubai last spring and got pulled. They went through my backback because, I had four bottles of supplements(that showed on X-ray) (ZMA, Alpha Male, GNC Multi, C-1000) They took them all because, "we dont know what these pills are" ..Dickheads..probably took them home......Just a word of caution.


Thanks for the advice!
Would you say domestic travel is less problematic as international travel then? Thankfully, most of my travel this year has been domestic, with that single incident of stolen supps being the anomaly.

I....don't know what I'd do without my MAG-10! Perhaps.....ship it ahead of time to the hotel I'm staying at? Seems like so much trouble and no guarantee the supps would make it either.

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idaho
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buffd_samurai wrote:
idaho wrote:
Gentlemen,
As a former narc, who has worked in several third-world countries, I would advise againist taking your supplements, especially anything in baggies that is "white powder". You can scream all you want to a customs guy, but, I would not want to take the chance of them pulling you from the line , just to use a NIK kit on your powder. A bottle or container will at least help you get through a screening. Just to point out an example: I came through Dubai last spring and got pulled. They went through my backback because, I had four bottles of supplements(that showed on X-ray) (ZMA, Alpha Male, GNC Multi, C-1000) They took them all because, "we dont know what these pills are" ..Dickheads..probably took them home......Just a word of caution.


Thanks for the advice!
Would you say domestic travel is less problematic as international travel then? Thankfully, most of my travel this year has been domestic, with that single incident of stolen supps being the anomaly.

I....don't know what I'd do without my MAG-10! Perhaps.....ship it ahead of time to the hotel I'm staying at? Seems like so much trouble and no guarantee the supps would make it either.



I have never had a problem in the United States. That being said, I still would advise againist carrying anything in plastic baggies, especially white powder. With todays climate it not only is a red flag for drugs, but, you have to remember that "white powder" covers anthrax,and certain other chemicals not to be discussed on open forum..Usually in the States, a simple explanation is good enough for Customs, but, I still like carrying them in their original bottles. One word of caution: if you take several different prescriptions, dont put them all in the same bottle, keep them separate.

On international travel from my experience:

Never carry white powder in baggies in Central America, South America, or the Caribbean. too much that could go wrong ..fast. I once had a pound of protein powder seized in ST.Lucia, in the original container...after being surrounded by ill-trained personnel.

Middle East: hit or miss. had the problem with Dubai, never had a problem in Kuwait, Jordan, Iraq, Bahrain....take NOTHING into Saudia Arabia you dont need to survive...period


Europe: been in many Western European countries, only had a problem in France one time, but, no big deal. Dont have a lot of experience in Southern Europe...no problem in Italy.

Africa: only two countries there, so dont know much. hope that helps.

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jppage
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buffd_samurai wrote:
idaho wrote:
Gentlemen,
As a former narc, who has worked in several third-world countries, I would advise againist taking your supplements, especially anything in baggies that is "white powder". You can scream all you want to a customs guy, but, I would not want to take the chance of them pulling you from the line , just to use a NIK kit on your powder. A bottle or container will at least help you get through a screening. Just to point out an example: I came through Dubai last spring and got pulled. They went through my backback because, I had four bottles of supplements(that showed on X-ray) (ZMA, Alpha Male, GNC Multi, C-1000) They took them all because, "we dont know what these pills are" ..Dickheads..probably took them home......Just a word of caution.


Thanks for the advice!
Would you say domestic travel is less problematic as international travel then? Thankfully, most of my travel this year has been domestic, with that single incident of stolen supps being the anomaly.

I....don't know what I'd do without my MAG-10! Perhaps.....ship it ahead of time to the hotel I'm staying at? Seems like so much trouble and no guarantee the supps would make it either.

Ya I feel for you buffd and everybody that has to travel for work etc.That would just be an added hassle to worry about.NO MAG-10,NOOOOOOOOOOO.....

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Chris Shugart
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buffd_samurai wrote:
Perhaps.....ship it ahead of time to the hotel I'm staying at? Seems like so much trouble and no guarantee the supps would make it either.


Most hotels are very good about this, especially Vegas hotels or any nicer place. They can even have your supplements waiting in your room for you. When airlines started doing mandatory charges for checked bags, many people started mailing their luggage. About the same price sometimes, and no bags to mess with.

One tip: if the hotel has a refrigerated mini-bar, be careful about storing your Spike, Brain Candy, or Flameout in there. Many register any movement in the rows of booze and other beverages as a purchase. Caesar's Palace was nice about removing the $400 in mini-bar charges from my bill, but I had to explain I was just using it to store my supps and didn't actually drink all that vodka!

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buffd_samurai
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Chris Shugart wrote:
One tip: if the hotel has a refrigerated mini-bar, be careful about storing your Spike, Brain Candy, or Flameout in there. Many register any movement in the rows of booze and other beverages as a purchase. Caesar's Palace was nice about removing the $400 in mini-bar charges from my bill, but I had to explain I was just using it to store my supps and didn't actually drink all that vodka!


Oh Chris, you are among friends here!
SURE you didn't drink it....SURE...wink, wink. :)

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buffd_samurai
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jppage wrote:
Ya I feel for you buffd and everybody that has to travel for work etc.That would just be an added hassle to worry about.NO MAG-10,NOOOOOOOOOOO.....


I know man!
Makes you wish MAG-10 RTDs were in Coke/soft drink machines....all you have to do is buy one where ever you're at! That would REALLY solve the problem! Now...how to make MAG-10 as huge as Coke or Pepsi...

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JMo_19
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@ idaho - thanks for your insight. I'm flying into Rome later this week and I'm trying to figure out the best way to get some MAG-10 over there. I likely don't have room to pack the whole tub, so I was going to use zip-lock baggies (for lack of a better idea). When you say you had no problems in Italy, how was your MAG-10 packed? Do you have any other recommendations to help me avoid any issues?

Thanks.

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Chris Shugart
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@JMo_19: If you have any smaller supplement containers, such as a Superfood or Power Drive container, these can be used for smaller amounts of Mag-10 or Metabolic Drive. Easier than packing the whole jug, more secure than baggies. I keep a few of these containers around empty just for "short trip" transport. Our leucine and BCAA containers are good if you need a little more room.

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JMo_19
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@CS - thanks, that might be what I end up doing. The only thing I have tho is a creatine monohydrate bottle that is half full. I can just dump that out somewhere and put the MAG-10 in it. I wonder how many pulses i can fit in there? I'll find out tonight after work!

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JMo_19
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Metabolic Drive in plastic baggies shouldn't be an issue though eh? Sure, I can see MAG-10 being suspicious since it is white, but choc protein powder shouldn't cause a worry, should it?

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Chris Shugart
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I actually packed plain white creatine in baggies into Thailand. But that was pre-9/11.

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