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JLone
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Saw this today but don't know how long it has been around so maybe it's a repeat. Though not scientific I think the picture says it all.

Margarine was created as a low cost substitute to butter. During its creation, â??vegetable oil (usually, corn or soybeans because itâ??s inexpensive) goes through a process called partial hydrogenation- mixed with a catalyst usually nickel oxide then blasted with hydrogen gas in a reactor at temperatures as high as 400 degrees F. Emulsifiers are added and then it is steam cleaned to get rid of the smellâ?? (Kaayla 2005)â?¦. Mmmmm yum! Oh and normally the end product is grey or black and then it is dyed yellow to make it look more appealing. Apparently it is also one molecule away from being plastic, however water is one molecule different from being Hydrogen, but you get my driftâ?¦ its processed to say the least.

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I did not write or check to see if the quoted statement is true.

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jehovasfitness
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nice graphic, happen to have a link?

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ds1973
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seems pretty easy to replicate this little experiment...

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jehovasfitness
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and yes, some scientists say the chemical structure of trans-fat more closely resembles plastic than food.

And that the dye color is added is or at least was true.

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Bonesaw93
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And people look at me like I'm crazy when I don't eat that shit.

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The margarine myth is one of the biggest crimes of the food industry. Smoke, muscle and mirrors covers this and many other decisions made with profit and not health in mind.

Organic/raw butter for life.

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caveman101
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I get pissed when I see shelves of the shit in the supermarket

And Adverts extolling it's 'healthy' properties always anger me

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http://www.floraproactiv.co.uk/...CFc0htAodhHj0iQ

AAAGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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jehovasfitness
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caveman101 wrote:
I get pissed when I see shelves of the shit in the supermarket

And Adverts extolling it's 'healthy' properties always anger me


and yet, people claim obesity is up to the individual and it's their responsibility. When you work with people and you realize how many people are attempting to change, but are so confused as to what is healthy it's sad.

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How about grass-fed pasture butter?

Nomnomnom Mountain Dog luv.

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jehovasfitness
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http://holisticfaith.com/...er-than-humans/

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My parents always bought margarine while I was growing up and when you taste real butter it's so damn good! It's like cheese's little brother.

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PB Andy
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as long as it fits your macros bruh

just kidding though

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SSC wrote:
How about grass-fed pasture butter?

Nomnomnom Mountain Dog luv.

<3

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jehovasfitness
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PB Andy wrote:
as long as it fits your macros bruh

just kidding though



calorie is a calorie dude

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Gl;itch.e
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A picture is worth a thousand words. Wonder if there are any other foods that could be shown to be unhealthy in such a way.

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John Meadows is right.....pasture butter and Ezekiel bread is pretty much the best combination anywhere.

I don't care if it's 10 bucks a pound, it's all I'm going to buy for the rest of my life...

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ds1973
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Gl;itch.e wrote:
A picture is worth a thousand words. Wonder if there are any other foods that could be shown to be unhealthy in such a way.


This does not show that margarine is unhealthy. It merely shows that ants prefer the butter.

Have you ever seen ants all over ice-cream or a snickers bar?

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jehovasfitness
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ds1973 wrote:
Gl;itch.e wrote:
A picture is worth a thousand words. Wonder if there are any other foods that could be shown to be unhealthy in such a way.


This does not show that margarine is unhealthy. It merely shows that ants prefer the butter.

Have you ever seen ants all over ice-cream or a snickers bar?


chocolate, PB and peanuts, why the hate brah :D

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ds1973 wrote:
Gl;itch.e wrote:
A picture is worth a thousand words. Wonder if there are any other foods that could be shown to be unhealthy in such a way.


This does not show that margarine is unhealthy. It merely shows that ants prefer the butter.

Have you ever seen ants all over ice-cream or a snickers bar?


Don't care.
The less processed stuff in my diet the better even without any 100% facts. I am willing to bet that in the next few decades, people are going to find out hidden dangers with tonnes of processed crap.

I am now as pissed off as caveman

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ds1973
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LOL... I love icecream and eat it weekly. Snickers bars, mainly at halloween. I assumed, perhaps incorrectly, that this crowd would see these foods as unhealthy.

My only point was that animals are not necessarily better than us at determining what's healthy for them. Hell, dogs and cats will lick up anti-freeze and poison themselves.

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ds1973 wrote:
LOL... I love icecream and eat it weekly. Snickers bars, mainly at halloween. I assumed, perhaps incorrectly, that this crowd would see these foods as unhealthy.

My only point was that animals are not necessarily better than us at determining what's healthy for them. Hell, dogs and cats will lick up anti-freeze and poison themselves.

Have you ever tasted antifreeze? It is sweet and tangy, Dogs forever! (cats are stupid though)

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caveman101 wrote:
I get pissed when I see shelves of the shit in the supermarket

And Adverts extolling it's 'healthy' properties always anger me



X2

Recently at the store I saw a package of something that read on the front "Zero Trans-Fats!"
I flipped it over to read the ingredients and the fucking thing said it contained partially hydrogenated soybean oil! How the HELL can they get away with that? I was so pissed off I wanted to call the company on the spot and yell at them.

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jehovasfitness
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Iron Dwarf wrote:
caveman101 wrote:
I get pissed when I see shelves of the shit in the supermarket

And Adverts extolling it's 'healthy' properties always anger me



X2

Recently at the store I saw a package of something that read on the front "Zero Trans-Fats!"
I flipped it over to read the ingredients and the fucking thing said it contained partially hydrogenated soybean oil! How the HELL can they get away with that? I was so pissed off I wanted to call the company on the spot and yell at them.


good ole FDA. Anyone that says it's "all personal responsbility" is mistaken.

#1- nutritional misinfo perpetuates fattness
#2- shitty food labeling laws don't help

by law, anything that contains less than .5g of something per serving, can for example be labeled fat free, or trans-fat free. Just manipulate the serving size.

Great example, though not totally bad, are the spray EVOO's or other oils. Says calorie/fat free on the front and even the nutritional panel. But, it's oil... look at the serving size and # of servings.... 1/3 sec of spray or 400 servings per can.

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Gl;itch.e
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MODOK wrote:
ds1973 wrote:
LOL... I love icecream and eat it weekly. Snickers bars, mainly at halloween. I assumed, perhaps incorrectly, that this crowd would see these foods as unhealthy.

My only point was that animals are not necessarily better than us at determining what's healthy for them. Hell, dogs and cats will lick up anti-freeze and poison themselves.


I think the take home point is not that the ants are making a decision to eat the healthier food, but rather that the ants don't recognize that margarine is a food at all.

Wish I had said that!

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