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SLAINGE
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_Yogi_ wrote:
StevenF wrote:
the cheaper protein powders seem to mess w/ my stomach. Isolate doesn't seem to. MAG-10 was really good just can't afford it all the time at this point.


I found out the hard way that I also react to the artificial sweeteners in cheap protein powders. Bought a massive bag of beef protein that was loaded with sweetener and the results were... messy.


This is why I only buy whey with NOTHING added, nothing. It ain't worth the alien belly and atomic shits...

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so while it appears I can now get away with the occasional whey shake (yeah! Still not going to use them regularly though) legumes still leave me crippled with bloating.

Not such a big deal really, but my experiment with chickpeas last night made for a very uncomfortable evening.

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So I have now finished my SIBO protocol. It has been a MASSIVE success. Significant developments:

-seem to be able to tolerate whey again. I've drank a few ready-made protein shakes and there's been no issue. May consider trying to start my days with a whey shake.
-morning diarrhea is a thing of the past. Can't even remember the last time. Considering it was happening 2-4 times a week for the last 29 years, I consider this to be quite a development.
-"trigger" foods still cause a little discomfort, but nothing like the same scale.
-legumes are still totally off limits. At least I have an excuse not to eat my girlfriends gross chickpea thing she makes
-caffeine is back on the menu (thank god! How I've missed it)

So I've stopped taking the SIBO supps (monolaurin, berberine, peppermint oil, NAC) and as of tomorrow morning will be taking a soil-based probiotic twice daily for the next month. My resistant starch consumption is also going to go through the roof as I'm starting a bulk tomorrow too so there's going to be a lot of cooked and cooled rice being eaten out of tupperware.

I may consider buying some digestive ezymes to cope with all the extra food I'm going to be eating from now on. We shall see.

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SLAINGE
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_Yogi_ wrote:
So I have now finished my SIBO protocol. It has been a MASSIVE success. Significant developments:

-seem to be able to tolerate whey again. I've drank a few ready-made protein shakes and there's been no issue. May consider trying to start my days with a whey shake.
-morning diarrhea is a thing of the past. Can't even remember the last time. Considering it was happening 2-4 times a week for the last 29 years, I consider this to be quite a development.
-"trigger" foods still cause a little discomfort, but nothing like the same scale.
-legumes are still totally off limits. At least I have an excuse not to eat my girlfriends gross chickpea thing she makes
-caffeine is back on the menu (thank god! How I've missed it)

So I've stopped taking the SIBO supps (monolaurin, berberine, peppermint oil, NAC) and as of tomorrow morning will be taking a soil-based probiotic twice daily for the next month. My resistant starch consumption is also going to go through the roof as I'm starting a bulk tomorrow too so there's going to be a lot of cooked and cooled rice being eaten out of tupperware.

I may consider buying some digestive ezymes to cope with all the extra food I'm going to be eating from now on. We shall see.


Great stuff, congrats!

What SBO probiotic are you going to take?

I ordered myself some Prescirpt Assist the other day (got a great deal) and should be here Tuesday. I have read mostly fantastic things about it. I did come across one guy John Brisson who recommends not to take that particular brand but I'll do it anyway.

Well done on seeing it through and cheers for posting the results, great info, keep us updated!

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Prescript Assist as well mate. Supposed to be the bee's knees.

When's yours arriving? I started mine today and will be doing 2x a day for the next month.

I'm honestly not even expecting it to do all that much seeing as how I seem pretty much cured, but I had already bought it so I figured why not?

I just checked that John Brisson's reasoninings behind not recommending it, and while he makes a good point, I've seen it recommended by so many people I rate highly (Mark Sisson, Chris Kesser, Dr GB, Richard Nikoley) that I'm confident in its efficacy.

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_Yogi_ wrote:
I just checked that John Brisson's reasoninings behind not recommending it, and while he makes a good point, I've seen it recommended by so many people I rate highly (Mark Sisson, Chris Kesser, Dr GB, Richard Nikoley) that I'm confident in its efficacy.


I read around since finding J.Brisson info and got this. None of the ancestral core are in the PA probiotics however in terms of functionality, about half of our gut is Bacteroides and PA contains several strains of healthy Bacteroides. This is why it has been so effective for many with broken guts -- it literally mimics our ancestral gut. Bacteroides actually shares functionality with Clostridia as well -- so in some folks I this one probiotic PA can impact the entire gut because it is 29 strains of a collaborative community of probiotics, ones that mimic our ancestral core.



Dr BG is a wealth of info!

PA mimics natural microbes found all around us that we should get, but don't. A sort of potpourri for the immune system. The immune system WANTS to see all kinds of microbes and wants to learn from them. When it sees a real bad guy, it will be ready for it. PA isn't designed to become your new gut flora, it's designed to strengthen your immune system by showing it a microburst of natural microbes found in the soil.

Mine should be here Tuesday or Wednesday...

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SLAINGE wrote:
_Yogi_ wrote:
I just checked that John Brisson's reasoninings behind not recommending it, and while he makes a good point, I've seen it recommended by so many people I rate highly (Mark Sisson, Chris Kesser, Dr GB, Richard Nikoley) that I'm confident in its efficacy.


I read around since finding J.Brisson info and got this. None of the ancestral core are in the PA probiotics however in terms of functionality, about half of our gut is Bacteroides and PA contains several strains of healthy Bacteroides. This is why it has been so effective for many with broken guts -- it literally mimics our ancestral gut. Bacteroides actually shares functionality with Clostridia as well -- so in some folks I this one probiotic PA can impact the entire gut because it is 29 strains of a collaborative community of probiotics, ones that mimic our ancestral core.



Dr BG is a wealth of info!

PA mimics natural microbes found all around us that we should get, but don't. A sort of potpourri for the immune system. The immune system WANTS to see all kinds of microbes and wants to learn from them. When it sees a real bad guy, it will be ready for it. PA isn't designed to become your new gut flora, it's designed to strengthen your immune system by showing it a microburst of natural microbes found in the soil.

Mine should be here Tuesday or Wednesday...


nice post!

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Bumping this for some more info on Resistant Starch I found the other day.

There's 4 types of RS, but for most people's purposes the only 2 you'll come across are RS2 and RS3. If you supplement with an uncooked RS like potato starch, you're getting RS2. RS2 is great, however you need to be aware that it'll only feed the good bacteria higher up the colon, and is all used up before it reaches the end. RS3, however, is slow and steady, and makes it all the way from mouth to sphincter.

RS2 also doesn't aid in adding stool bulk, or lowering stool PH (high stool PH is an indicator of potential colon cancer), whereas RS3 does both.

So yeah. Supplement with something like potato starch, definitely, but also make sure you are getting plenty RS3 because RS2 on its own just isn't going to cut it.

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