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Diddy Ryder wrote:
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check out this study about peppermint oil helping fix SIBO

http://www.altmedrev.com/...ons/7/5/410.pdf

also check out the IBS diagnostic criteria. Oh dear...


I went out with a girl who had IBS and she always carried peppermint around with her in case it acted up.

I, personally, have been curling out magnificent foot-longers recently.


tell me your secret!


I'm actually going to give a serious answer.

Since I first looked in on this thread I started eating loads of veg. At least 200g of green stuff per day, sometimes more, and often that much with each meal.

This made the passage of my logs easier but they were still lacking in size and consistency.

IT WAS ONLY WHEN I upped the CLEAN carbs (oats and wholemeal bread) that I started laying serious pipe. Coupled with the increased vegetable intake they just slide out as well, and sometimes require no wiping. The perfect dump: cleanly crimped off like a Cuban cigar.

This makes me wonder whether carbs aid transit or just produce bulkier waste compared to a mostly protein and fat diet.



I was actually hoping for a serious answer!

I'm starting to come around to the idea of eating more (good) carbs and less fat for precisely that reason. Particularly cooked and cooled starches like potatoes or rice (for the resistant starch).

I eat a lot of my meals cold out of tupperware at work anyway so it's not hard just to fire some tatties in a tub and stick it in the fridge for tomorrow. Cook up a big pot of baby potatoes, let them cool, stir in a spoonful of mayonnaise and hot sauce and that's the carb portion of your at work meals taken care of.

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Do you eat your greens? Honestly the simple fact of eating 200g of greens (runner beans, peas, broccoli, cauliflower) with lunch and dinner did a lot for my ring piece. Anyone who is suffering from bizarre turds or anal fissures, I would urge them to make sure they are eating loads of green vegetables before they start looking for problems elsewhere.

It's an easy fix. I don't even fuck around buying fresh and preparing them. I just buy bags of frozen veg and boil up a portion when I'm going to eat it. Granted, I work from home so this is easy to do, but it takes maybe 5 min prep time to prepare some to take to work for lunch.

Possibly (almost certainly) too much information, but my ring had been dripping blood on occasion when taking a dump, but this has all stopped since I've been shovelling down green veg.

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I do mate, aye. My diet is, for the most part, actually pretty perfect! That's what's made me think there's something more sinister going on. I do all the shit you're supposed to, and don't do all the shit you're not supposed to (99% of the time), but still I have problems.

Apparently, along with a shitey diet, one of the biggest contributors to SIBO is binge drinking, and being a fellow Scot I'm sure you know all about that! I spent a good few years drinking, smoking and abusing all sorts of drugs, which I think have done a number on my stomach that I've never allowed to get better.

So enough is e-fucking-nough. I'm fucking carpet bombing my intestine with all manner of pills, powders and potions.

It's do or die!

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Well I'm a Geordie actually but I suppose that's splitting hairs when it comes to raging alcoholism :p I never drink Tennent's anymore as I'm sure I can feel it rotting my gut.

Hope you get that elusive no-wipe foot-longer soon.

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so it seems that green tea supps mess with my stomach too. Sigh, I'll add them to the list...

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Does that seem a bit strange to you? What form have you supps been taking (eg: capsules, loose leaves, etc)? Could it be that anything in your stomach right now would provoke a reaction?

I only ask because when my IBS was bad, even a glass of water would cause bloating.

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Dr. Pangloss wrote:
Does that seem a bit strange to you? What form have you supps been taking (eg: capsules, loose leaves, etc)? Could it be that anything in your stomach right now would provoke a reaction?

I only ask because when my IBS was bad, even a glass of water would cause bloating.


I have been cutting just now so I'm living on a diet of chicken breast, spinach, steak and cold potatoes. Digestion was fine, improving even, so I decided to cut a little more aggressively and add green tea pills. From the first day I was getting random attacks of diarrhea during the day (that's significant because I only ever get it in the morning usually), so I stopped the green tea and it stopped.

I did a bit of googling and it does appear that other people have had this problem, although nobody really knows why it happens.

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That's crazy that a half of a gram or so could cause such a reaction.

On a side note, I went out last night and had veal piccata with a side of angel hair aglio e olio. I usually don't eat the pasta, but was ravenous so I finished it off. Big mistake.

I absolutely destroyed the restaurant's bathroom 15 minutes later. I would hear people walk in and gasp when the stench hit them. In between the stomach cramps, I couldn't help but notice a certain sense of pride start to well up.

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Dr. Pangloss wrote:
That's crazy that a half of a gram or so could cause such a reaction.

On a side note, I went out last night and had veal piccata with a side of angel hair aglio e olio. I usually don't eat the pasta, but was ravenous so I finished it off. Big mistake.

I absolutely destroyed the restaurant's bathroom 15 minutes later. I would hear people walk in and gasp when the stench hit them. In between the stomach cramps, I couldn't help but notice a certain sense of pride start to well up.


man, if it's only taking 15 minutes for something like that to happen you must have some pretty serious issues!

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I used to have the same issue when eating pasta.

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_Yogi_ wrote:
man, if it's only taking 15 minutes for something like that to happen you must have some pretty serious issues!


Yeah, my gastrocolic reflex goes bonkers sometimes. Pasta, uncooked vegetables, and amber beers are all triggers. Don't ask me why amber beers, I can't figure it out myself.

When my stomach is bloated, I can eat all the spicy food and drink all the hard alcohol I want, but God help me if an uncooked carrot passes my lips.

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StevenF wrote:
I used to have the same issue when eating pasta.


Do you no longer have the problem or do you no longer eat pasta?

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Dr. Pangloss wrote:
_Yogi_ wrote:
man, if it's only taking 15 minutes for something like that to happen you must have some pretty serious issues!


Yeah, my gastrocolic reflex goes bonkers sometimes. Pasta, uncooked vegetables, and amber beers are all triggers. Don't ask me why amber beers, I can't figure it out myself.

When my stomach is bloated, I can eat all the spicy food and drink all the hard alcohol I want, but God help me if an uncooked carrot passes my lips.


don't worry about it, spicy food and hard alcohol are way better than carrots anyway

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Started the monolaurin, berberine and NAC today, with my first serving of Bionic Fibre last night. Will report back in a week as to how that's going.

Have some peppermint oil arriving this week too which I'll add in when it arrives.

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So, I've posted this somewhere else in this forum but thought I'd re-post my question here, since this fantastic thread has good traffic.

Has anyone had any success using apple cider vinegar to alleviate acid reflux-like symptoms etc.? I've been trying now for about five days and can't yet tell if it's making a difference, but I'm unsure as to whether I'm "dosing" correctly.

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berberine for the win...

are you using peri workout supps?

What about indigo? taht could help the inflammation issue.

Personally, I've had tremendous success with berberine, monolaurin and Jarrow Formulas, Saccharomyces Boulardii + MOS, 90 Capsules. basically was getting fatter despite a pretty much perfect diet. I had greens coming out of my ears and still no abs in sight!

My only gripe is that the above combo slightly increases anxiety, but this can be easily addressed with a bit of tyrosine/bacopa.

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juverulez wrote:
berberine for the win...

are you using peri workout supps?

What about indigo? taht could help the inflammation issue.

Personally, I've had tremendous success with berberine, monolaurin and Jarrow Formulas, Saccharomyces Boulardii + MOS, 90 Capsules. basically was getting fatter despite a pretty much perfect diet. I had greens coming out of my ears and still no abs in sight!

My only gripe is that the above combo slightly increases anxiety, but this can be easily addressed with a bit of tyrosine/bacopa.




I'm glad to hear you say that you've had good success with the monolaurin and berberin. My peppermint oil arrived today so I'll be adding that to the mix as of tomorrow. That should nuke the bad guys and allow the goodies to frolic.

I've seen that SB stuff recommended all over the place, but I decided to go with the Prescript Assist soil based probiotic as freetheanimal.com and Chris Kesser both wax lyrically about it.

I don't use any pre workouts (don't like them) or indigo (can't afford it).

Do you still have issues or did you manage to get it under control?

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since adding that bionic fibre, my turds have been majestic. A glory to behold.

If this keeps up, I'll be able to stop buying toilet paper.

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_Yogi_ wrote:
since adding that bionic fibre, my turds have been majestic. A glory to behold.

If this keeps up, I'll be able to stop buying toilet paper.


Have you done a dancing bear yet?

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Diddy Ryder wrote:
_Yogi_ wrote:
since adding that bionic fibre, my turds have been majestic. A glory to behold.

If this keeps up, I'll be able to stop buying toilet paper.


Have you done a dancing bear yet?



I invented the dancing bear

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Dr. Pangloss wrote:
StevenF wrote:
I used to have the same issue when eating pasta.


Do you no longer have the problem or do you no longer eat pasta?


I no longer eat pasta.

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Anyone drink kombucha? What's the general consensus?

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_Yogi_ wrote:
since adding that bionic fibre, my turds have been majestic. A glory to behold.

If this keeps up, I'll be able to stop buying toilet paper.


Are you referring to RS when you say bionic fibre?

I googled it and I got this http://www.bionic-fibre.com/en... and as I was reading the description of the product (thinking of shite of course) it was making sense, then I realised what it was lol

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SLAINGE wrote:

I googled it and I got this http://www.bionic-fibre.com/en... and as I was reading the description of the product (thinking of shite of course) it was making sense, then I realised what it was lol


If it works, I'll try it but you have to order it in 20 kilo bags.

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No no no, didn't you read that Dr BG link I posted?

Bionic fibre is:

-1 tbsp psyllium
-1 tbsp potato starch

For some reason, combining the two seems to increase the effectiveness of each and makes them easier to tolerate. No gas or anything like that. Before I started combining the RS with the psyllium, anything more than a couple of teaspoons gave me horrific sides, but now I can use a big ole heaped teaspoon of the shit with nary even a fart.

Apparently the psyllium helps the RS spread butyrate further down your gut.

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