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Roome19b
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Hi Guys, whats your opinion on a clean bulk diet, What im wondering is, is it healthy to be eating 3000+ calories a day, 5+ eggs a day etc

thanks

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Well depends... Everyone is different but If it would require you to gain weight slowly at 3000 calories (lets say if your maintenance was 2800) then yes. Assuming that your eating vegetables, fruits, lean meats and other healthy choices for fiber and vitamins naturally. There is no correlation for eating egg yolks (cholesterol) and it raising your cholesterol so don't think that you'd be so called "Unhealthy." Just as long as your saturated fat intake would go over the recommended dosage per day then I'd say your good.

What's unhealthy is processed foods with multiple ingredients that you can't pernounce or spell. Copious amounts of sugar for your calories or foods that are low in nutritional value (ex. low vitamin, fiber or mineral content).

Of course there's more to say, but your question was fairly vague. Hope it helps buddy

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Yes definetely a vague question. Depends really(age etc. etc.)best to ask your family doctor not a bunch of muscleheads on an online forum.
However MO is that if you are subjecting yourself to testosterone building tension throughout your workouts (ie working hard) a little extra animal fat could do you good if you are looking to build muscle but as far as if it is "healthy" I don't know.

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Roome19b wrote:
Hi Guys, whats your opinion on a clean bulk diet, What im wondering is, is it healthy to be eating 3000+ calories a day, 5+ eggs a day etc

I wonder what the consensus will be on a website dedicated to bodybuilding and power lifting?

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Grumpig Hunt
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Check out John Meadows' articles on saturated fats (Look under 'Articles' at the top, and 'Featured Authors')

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caveman101
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Roome19b wrote:
5+ eggs a day etc


lol, lightweight

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JLone wrote:
Roome19b wrote:
Hi Guys, whats your opinion on a clean bulk diet, What im wondering is, is it healthy to be eating 3000+ calories a day, 5+ eggs a day etc

I wonder what the consensus will be on a website dedicated to bodybuilding and power lifting?



If you are a feather weight and can clean bulk, no problems. But if you have to eat 5 and 6 thousand calories per day, you can't eat them clean. At that point, something will get a little fucked up. But who cares? The point is to get bigger, you are not going to dirty bulk for years on end, so what's the big deal?

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Perfectly healthy, as long as you're not ingesting sugar or crappy carbs

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LIFTICVSMAXIMVS
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Roome19b wrote:
Hi Guys, whats your opinion on a clean bulk diet, What im wondering is, is it healthy to be eating 3000+ calories a day, 5+ eggs a day etc

thanks


The cleaner the diet the harder it is to consume excessive food. That is why they work so well with body recomposition.

If you are already really lean you should be able to gain lean mass easily on a clean diet.

If not lean - firstly, don't bulk - but in general, a clean diet will allow one to gain muscle while also burning body fat as energy.

As far as eggs go I don't see any reason why a person could not consume 1/2 dozen per day. The only thing I notice is I cannot eat all the egg whites because they upset my stomach. I may have an intolerance to that much albumen.

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Have been eating min 5 eggs for the past 3 years, done my blood work, perfectly fine, actually high levels of HDL.

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LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:

If not lean - firstly, don't bulk - but in general, a clean diet will allow one to gain muscle while also burning body fat as energy.




what is your definition of clean?

what makes you feel this way, is just simply because most clean foods are going to have more micronutrients?

just wondering, not really trying to argue with you.

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LIFTICVSMAXIMVS
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paulieserafini wrote:
LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:

If not lean - firstly, don't bulk - but in general, a clean diet will allow one to gain muscle while also burning body fat as energy.




what is your definition of clean?

what makes you feel this way, is just simply because most clean foods are going to have more micronutrients?

just wondering, not really trying to argue with you.


"Clean food" to me is real food - i.e., food that I don't need to read a label for ingredients or nutritional value.

Because these foods are nutrient dense (as opposed to energy dense) they make a person feel fuller and hence it is really hard to overindulge.

I don't consider protein shakes part of a "clean bulk" because they are processed and hence unbalanced in nutrition - and because of this not real food.

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LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
paulieserafini wrote:
LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:

If not lean - firstly, don't bulk - but in general, a clean diet will allow one to gain muscle while also burning body fat as energy.




what is your definition of clean?

what makes you feel this way, is just simply because most clean foods are going to have more micronutrients?

just wondering, not really trying to argue with you.


"Clean food" to me is real food - i.e., food that I don't need to read a label for ingredients or nutritional value.

Because these foods are nutrient dense (as opposed to energy dense) they make a person feel fuller and hence it is really hard to overindulge.

I don't consider protein shakes part of a "clean bulk" because they are processed and hence unbalanced in nutrition - and because of this not real food.



My second question was geared more towards you saying one could drop fat and add muscle at the same time eating clean.
This is something like many others I am trying to get a better understanding of ha, since it doesn't seem like anyones every really figured it out yet.

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LIFTICVSMAXIMVS
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paulieserafini wrote:

My second question was geared more towards you saying one could drop fat and add muscle at the same time eating clean.

This is something like many others I am trying to get a better understanding of ha, since it doesn't seem like anyones every really figured it out yet.


I believe it is true because it reduces chemicals that stimulate lipogenesis. Refined foods are really fast absorbing which means they have to be dealt with immediately - used or stored and we only have limited capability to use so much in a day.

Building muscle I think can happen with or without these foods but the "clean" way is for fatties like me who already have the necessary energy stored in "bulk" fashion.

I pre-bulked by eating TONS OF MACROS now it's time to convert it to muscle.

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Roome19b
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Cheers for the info guys

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LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
paulieserafini wrote:

My second question was geared more towards you saying one could drop fat and add muscle at the same time eating clean.

This is something like many others I am trying to get a better understanding of ha, since it doesn't seem like anyones every really figured it out yet.


I believe it is true because it reduces chemicals that stimulate lipogenesis. Refined foods are really fast absorbing which means they have to be dealt with immediately - used or stored and we only have limited capability to use so much in a day.

Building muscle I think can happen with or without these foods but the "clean" way is for fatties like me who already have the necessary energy stored in "bulk" fashion.

I pre-bulked by eating TONS OF MACROS now it's time to convert it to muscle.

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I feel like most of ones foods should be "clean" more often than not assuming that they don't need an absolutely ridiculous amount of calories to gain muscle

But do you not feel that certain refined foods may have their place if taken at the right time. Like maybe a pre workout meal of whey and white rice. Or white rice pre workout and whey post workout?

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