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marshmac
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Chris,
I've been doing the 100 gram carb restriction thing for about 2 weeks now along with a fasted cardio session at 6am for 25 minutes 3x a week before starting my workday (gym is onsite). I've also been on animal cuts for 2 weeks and i'm yet to see any weight lose. i'm also doing German Volume training mid-day for my training session which runs no less an 90 minutes. my question to you is what am i doing wrong. my normal day looks like this:

4:00 - wake up
4:50 - leave house
5:30 - take animal cuts
6:00 - fasted cardio
7:00 - 3 eggs, 2tblsp of salsa, 3oz chicken breast
9:30 - 2 scoops protein powder in 12oz water
10:30 - mix 2 scoop MAG-10, 1 scoop Anaconda, 1 scoop SWF in 1500ml water -
11:00 - workout
1:00 - 3oz chicken breast, spinach
4:30 - 2 scoop protein powder
7:00 - lean meat, spinach occational avacodo
11:00 - bed

look more defined but weight stays the same. any suggestions will be much appreciated.

thanks
M

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Chris Shugart
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It could simply involve how you're measuring progress. Sounds like you're just using scale weight, which doesn't account for muscle gain, fluid fluctuations, the amount of poop in your gut, water in your belly, etc. Scale weight can fluctuate around 6 pounds over the course of a single day, so...

1) Scale weight is a poor way to judge progress -- better to use tape measurements, photos, the mirror, and body comp tests. You say you're looking more defined, so it sounds like the mirror is telling you a different story than the scale.

If you must use a scale, always follow the "rules" -- weigh only in the morning, after bathroom, before eating or drinking, same scale every time placed in the same spot, naked or underwear only, and only weigh once per week on same day of the week. Weigh any other way -- too often, different scales, different times of the day etc. -- and you'll drive yourself nuts.

2) You've only been at this two weeks. Yes, I'd expect some fat loss too, and maybe you are losing fat, we don't know, but two weeks into a plan isn't really much time. And by the way, with that peri-workout plan, I would not be surprised at all if you're gaining muscle. Gain two pounds of muscle, lose 2 pounds of fat and the scale shows.... nothing. Yet that's great progress.

3) You may need to bust out the food log and track calories per day. I don't see anything wrong with what you're doing (no idea what "animal cuts" is though) and I can only assume your protein powder isn't packed with sugar, but what we don't know is total calorie count. Logging that could tell you if anything is slipping by, though your food choices look fine to me.

My guess is that you're seeing muscle gain (killer training program + good peri-workout nutrition) and relying too much on the scale rather than other, more accurate forms of measurement. What I'd suggest is getting out the tape measure and using it around the fattest part of your middle. Tracking just that measurement can tell you a lot. There's also a larger guide to tape measuring in the V-Diet plan if you want to check that out.

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marshmac
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thanks Chris, i think the log is a good idea and i will start one. I'll keep you posted with the progress. Animal cuts is a fat burner by universal nutrition. thought i needed a burner for the extra boost.

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Icarus
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I started a strict, calorie-counting diet on Sept 1 at 218 lbs after maintaining that weight for almost 2 years. I weighed everything, tracked everything, did the whole peri-workout nutrition thing and the whole shebang.

On Nov 15, I weighed 203 and I didn't look much better, still had the 'soft' look, even though you could tell I had muscle. AND my stomach still stuck out in what my wife likes to call her 'lil buddah.'
Over Thanksgiving I read The Primal Blueprint. It made a SHITLOAD of sense and expands what Chris teaches us here. I weighed myself again the day I started and was still at 203.

I weighed myself on my 40th B-day (Jan 14) to see what progress I had made. 213 lbs. LOL, that could've fucked with my head. However, I feel a lot better, am making progress in my lifts rather than just going through the motions (not expecting much since I am 'dieting') and the best part is that fucking 'lil buddah' is all but gone.

Stomach is flatter than a pancake (for the most part) and my obliques are fucking ripped. I still don't see my abs yet, but I know I will eventually get there at this rate. I eat about 3,000 calories in 2 meals per day (Intermittent Fasting), use Pulse Fasts occasionally and look somewhat athletic with my clothes on (which is my goal).

The point is, I weigh 10lbs more than I did when I was on a calorie restricted diet, counting macros, and doing more training than I should have been doing, both aerobic and anaerobic. You might want to look into it and see if it is something that you would like to try. It's not for everybody but trying won't kill you. Just an option.

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marshmac
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Icarus wrote:
I started a strict, calorie-counting diet on Sept 1 at 218 lbs after maintaining that weight for almost 2 years. I weighed everything, tracked everything, did the whole peri-workout nutrition thing and the whole shebang.

On Nov 15, I weighed 203 and I didn't look much better, still had the 'soft' look, even though you could tell I had muscle. AND my stomach still stuck out in what my wife likes to call her 'lil buddah.'
Over Thanksgiving I read The Primal Blueprint. It made a SHITLOAD of sense and expands what Chris teaches us here. I weighed myself again the day I started and was still at 203.

I weighed myself on my 40th B-day (Jan 14) to see what progress I had made. 213 lbs. LOL, that could've fucked with my head. However, I feel a lot better, am making progress in my lifts rather than just going through the motions (not expecting much since I am 'dieting') and the best part is that fucking 'lil buddah' is all but gone.

Stomach is flatter than a pancake (for the most part) and my obliques are fucking ripped. I still don't see my abs yet, but I know I will eventually get there at this rate. I eat about 3,000 calories in 2 meals per day (Intermittent Fasting), use Pulse Fasts occasionally and look somewhat athletic with my clothes on (which is my goal).

The point is, I weigh 10lbs more than I did when I was on a calorie restricted diet, counting macros, and doing more training than I should have been doing, both aerobic and anaerobic. You might want to look into it and see if it is something that you would like to try. It's not for everybody but trying won't kill you. Just an option.


THanks man, Primal Blueprint is being googled in another window as i type.

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marshmac
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Icarus wrote:
I started a strict, calorie-counting diet on Sept 1 at 218 lbs after maintaining that weight for almost 2 years. I weighed everything, tracked everything, did the whole peri-workout nutrition thing and the whole shebang.

On Nov 15, I weighed 203 and I didn't look much better, still had the 'soft' look, even though you could tell I had muscle. AND my stomach still stuck out in what my wife likes to call her 'lil buddah.'
Over Thanksgiving I read The Primal Blueprint. It made a SHITLOAD of sense and expands what Chris teaches us here. I weighed myself again the day I started and was still at 203.

I weighed myself on my 40th B-day (Jan 14) to see what progress I had made. 213 lbs. LOL, that could've fucked with my head. However, I feel a lot better, am making progress in my lifts rather than just going through the motions (not expecting much since I am 'dieting') and the best part is that fucking 'lil buddah' is all but gone.

Stomach is flatter than a pancake (for the most part) and my obliques are fucking ripped. I still don't see my abs yet, but I know I will eventually get there at this rate. I eat about 3,000 calories in 2 meals per day (Intermittent Fasting), use Pulse Fasts occasionally and look somewhat athletic with my clothes on (which is my goal).

The point is, I weigh 10lbs more than I did when I was on a calorie restricted diet, counting macros, and doing more training than I should have been doing, both aerobic and anaerobic. You might want to look into it and see if it is something that you would like to try. It's not for everybody but trying won't kill you. Just an option.


is there a difference in the primal diet and paleo diet??

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Chris Shugart
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marshmac wrote:

is there a difference in the primal diet and paleo diet??



Primal Blueprint is one "brand" of the broad category of "paleo" dieting. Paleo Solution by Robb Wolf is another. Art DeVaney has another version. They're all pretty close at their core. The latter two guys have been interviewed here. Just run a search for their names.

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TORO
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They are all different versions of Paleo. Primal Blueprint is one of the the more Liberal versions in that it allows some Dairy, Eggs, and more Fruit.
Paleo Solution is more strict - primarily Meat, Fish, Greens.
Then there is the Raw Paleo - Everything raw, including Red Meats, Poultry, etc.

I think any regimen needs at least six months of practice to gauge fairly.

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