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thethirdruffian
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Overstand sent me this by PM and wanted me to post this here:


I graduated college in December and I've been working for an insurance broker. It's only been a few months and I'm just about ready to shoot myself, so I've been doing research into joining the military.

I looked into OCS first and I've decided I'd rather enlist. My reasons are that I'm young, single and money is not that important to me at this point in my life; I want the adventure and physical challenge. If I went through OCS, I could end up with a MOS that I hate, in which case I'd be no better off than I am now and making quite a bit less money to boot. I could always go through OCS after my first enlistment, and I think there is something to be said for an officer who started as a grunt.

I have it narrowed down to the Marines or Army, where I'd be interested in Recon/Rangers respectively. I've spoken to a recruiter for both and they've assured me it would be no problem to get an Option 40 Ranger contract or a UZ Recon contract. I am currently leaning towards Marine Recon.

So my questions are:

1) Am I crazy for doing this?

2) How can I get in shape? In my avatar pic I'm about 230. I've been dropping weight for the last 2 months and I'm sitting around 205. I plan to continue dropping until I'm around 175 or so.

I can do 100 pushups, 20 pull ups and 100 sit ups, but my run time is not good at all. I've been slowly building up my cardio, but I just quit smoking so I'm starting at practically ground zero. I'm considering dropping weight training all together.

I probably sound like a total dipshit, but if you or any of the guys on here could help me out with a routine to get in shape quickly I would greatly appreciate it. I know Basic + SOI would be about 5 months, do you think that is enough time to get into good enough shape to make Recon? I want to get out of this corporate office as soon as possible, but I don't want to go unless I have a legitimate shot at reaching my goals.

Thank you for reading. Any other advice/insight is greatly appreciated.



He had a follow up of basically a Marine recruiter being a prick about giving him a contract for his chosen MOS (or whatever Marines call it) and giving him the run-around and vacillating between Rangers and Marine Recon.

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njrusmc
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PM me.

Former Marine enlisted grunt and former Marine communications officer.

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NvrTooLate
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http://tnation.T-Nation.com/...ion_about_recon

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HolyMacaroni
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OMG i wanna be army ranger/navy seal/delta force


lame.

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NvrTooLate
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HolyMacaroni wrote:
OMG i wanna be army ranger/navy seal/delta force


lame.


You left one out.

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HolyMacaroni
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NvrTooLate wrote:
HolyMacaroni wrote:
OMG i wanna be army ranger/navy seal/delta force


lame.


You left one out.



pararescue? navy swcc? marine recon?


lol my bad, was in a rush

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bluethunder90
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HolyMacaroni wrote:
OMG i wanna be army ranger/navy seal/delta force


lame.


I'd be interested to know what is lame about the Ranger, SEALs, Delta Force, or any other Special Operations forces?

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sjoconn
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bluethunder90 wrote:
HolyMacaroni wrote:
OMG i wanna be army ranger/navy seal/delta force


lame.


I'd be interested to know what is lame about the Ranger, SEALs, Delta Force, or any other Special Operations forces?


Its lame that everyone thinks they can just walk off the street and be in Special Operations.

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HolyMacaroni
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sjoconn wrote:

Its lame that everyone thinks they can just walk off the street and be in Special Operations.



bingo

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usmccds423
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HolyMacaroni wrote:
sjoconn wrote:

Its lame that everyone thinks they can just walk off the street and be in Special Operations.



bingo


...but I'm really good at Call of Duty. I must be SF material!

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strength_forever
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I don't think this is lame at all. Our next generation of operators needs to come from somewhere. And this Lad sounds motivated. Good for him. If he wants to do it. Then do it.

There are more than enough resources out there on training. But it sounds like he is in good enough shape to start Basic. Thats all you need for now. You don't need to join the infantry with SF Selection fitness levels. I would start humping a ruck though. Get weight on your back and start walking and get used to it. And not a gay ruck1 pack or weight vest. Get a Alice pack, work your self over time to 80ish pounds (start at 25lbs for 5-6 miles ) for at least 10 miles.

All levels of training in the combat arms are 100% mental.... unless your unfit .... then its 100% impossible.

good luck. And if he serious he can PM and I will at least point him toward some resources.

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NvrTooLate
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strength_forever wrote:
I don't think this is lame at all. Our next generation of operators needs to come from somewhere. And this Lad sounds motivated. Good for him. If he wants to do it. Then do it.

There are more than enough resources out there on training. But it sounds like he is in good enough shape to start Basic. Thats all you need for now. You don't need to join the infantry with SF Selection fitness levels. I would start humping a ruck though. Get weight on your back and start walking and get used to it. And not a gay ruck1 pack or weight vest. Get a Alice pack, work your self over time to 80ish pounds (start at 25lbs for 5-6 miles ) for at least 10 miles.

All levels of training in the combat arms are 100% mental.... unless your unfit .... then its 100% impossible.

good luck. And if he serious he can PM and I will at least point him toward some resources.


It's lame because now a days you can just walk into the recruiter and sign up for Recon. In my time you had to pass an indoc/ board while in the grunts then somehow convince your command to let you go.

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