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Lonnie123
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I feel smaller, fatter, and weaker than the average person...

Its called Bigorexia. Hi Chobbs, welcome to the meetings ;-)

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chobbs
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I feel like if you dont have bigorexia then you suck at training or no testicular fortitude. On another note, went out to eat for breakfast and had a huge meat lovers skillet with french toast in roughly 1.4 gallons of syrup. I thought I might as well put those calories to good use so I'm going to squat later today. I'd like 315x3.

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chobbs
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Went into the gym wanting to hit something reasonably heavy, ended up working to a PR of 355 vid coming. My old PR was 350 @215 BW new PR 355 @198. I messed up my back warming up at 135, it's my lower back but its like in the back of my pelvic area, I just said fuck it and threw a belt on. If you can't fight through a couple singles you need your man card revoked.

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chobbs
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355.....in the past 7 weeks I've had 315 on my back 2x for a total of 2 reps. I believe in the Base Building Manuel. Strength loss on a cut say whaaaa?

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Lol i never once thought of myself as "big" until people started actually telling me i am being at college and all. the amount of people who tell me im jacked up is wierd because I never once thought of myself as so

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Also Im gonna commit heresy here but don't sit so far back. Get the bar a tiny bit higher and shove your elbows under it and break at the knees then sit DOWN not back, this is the groove for most great raw squatters

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chobbs wrote:
355.....in the past 7 weeks I've had 315 on my back 2x for a total of 2 reps. I believe in the Base Building Manuel. Strength loss on a cut say whaaaa?


That is pretty damn awesome.

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chobbs
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PlainPat wrote:
Also Im gonna commit heresy here but don't sit so far back. Get the bar a tiny bit higher and shove your elbows under it and break at the knees then sit DOWN not back, this is the groove for most great raw squatters

Def will work on this, elbow placement has always been a hard thing for me to get because of my shoulder

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chobbs
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trivium wrote:
chobbs wrote:
355.....in the past 7 weeks I've had 315 on my back 2x for a total of 2 reps. I believe in the Base Building Manuel. Strength loss on a cut say whaaaa?


That is pretty damn awesome.

Thanks dude, I'm pretty pumped about it even tho that squat was high lol

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chobbs wrote:
355.....in the past 7 weeks I've had 315 on my back 2x for a total of 2 reps. I believe in the Base Building Manuel. Strength loss on a cut say whaaaa?



nice lift dude. How tall are you? Have you ever messed with oly/elevated heel shoes for squats?

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chobbs
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aspengc8 wrote:
chobbs wrote:
355.....in the past 7 weeks I've had 315 on my back 2x for a total of 2 reps. I believe in the Base Building Manuel. Strength loss on a cut say whaaaa?



nice lift dude. How tall are you? Have you ever messed with oly/elevated heel shoes for squats?

6'1 1/2".....I have not
Edit: do you feel like my chucks are hurting me?

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chobbs wrote:
aspengc8 wrote:
chobbs wrote:
355.....in the past 7 weeks I've had 315 on my back 2x for a total of 2 reps. I believe in the Base Building Manuel. Strength loss on a cut say whaaaa?



nice lift dude. How tall are you? Have you ever messed with oly/elevated heel shoes for squats?

6'1 1/2".....I have not
Edit: do you feel like my chucks are hurting me?


Probably not.

But if you do move more toward a sit down vs sit back style, it requires more ankle flexibility, which is where the raised heel helps. Without that flexibility, your knees can't come forward quite as much and the lift can become much more-good morning-like than a squat at the bottom.

My take on it.

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I like elevated heels personally, but squat in wrestling shoes because ive never had flexibility issues in any way shape or form. They do help if youre not quite as mobile but thats really only masking the problem, you should be able to reach full depth no matter what the shoe

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chobbs
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PlainPat wrote:
I like elevated heels personally, but squat in wrestling shoes because ive never had flexibility issues in any way shape or form. They do help if youre not quite as mobile but thats really only masking the problem, you should be able to reach full depth no matter what the shoe

I'll have to look into all of this....
I wanted to hit some paused squats up to a heavy set of 3 yesterday but I felt like I had put everything I had mentally into that last set that I couldn't get up for anything after it. Physically I still had some in me but I just flipped that ON switch to fast and hard. There was a great thread on here a little while back on this topic on how often you should flip your internal switch and when was the appropriate time to do so. I'm moving everything back a day this week because 1)traps/upper back are still fried 2) my body feels wrecked 3) my pelvic/low back is making it difficult to walk normally

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MightyMouse17
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Way to grind that squat out! Imma catch up to you though!

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chobbs wrote:
PlainPat wrote:
I like elevated heels personally, but squat in wrestling shoes because ive never had flexibility issues in any way shape or form. They do help if youre not quite as mobile but thats really only masking the problem, you should be able to reach full depth no matter what the shoe

I'll have to look into all of this....
I wanted to hit some paused squats up to a heavy set of 3 yesterday but I felt like I had put everything I had mentally into that last set that I couldn't get up for anything after it. Physically I still had some in me but I just flipped that ON switch to fast and hard. There was a great thread on here a little while back on this topic on how often you should flip your internal switch and when was the appropriate time to do so. I'm moving everything back a day this week because 1)traps/upper back are still fried 2) my body feels wrecked 3) my pelvic/low back is making it difficult to walk normally


theres a reason every powerlifter in the last 10-20 years has recommended flat soled shoes, the resurgence of heeled shoes for powerliters have only recently made a come back and they are NOT the difference in someone squatting 405 and squatting 900.

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chobbs
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MightyMouse17 wrote:
Way to grind that squat out! Imma catch up to you though!

Thanks dude, awesome job on your meet. I still have more than a few lbs of BW on you so I think you're doing just fine lol

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chobbs wrote:
aspengc8 wrote:
chobbs wrote:
355.....in the past 7 weeks I've had 315 on my back 2x for a total of 2 reps. I believe in the Base Building Manuel. Strength loss on a cut say whaaaa?



nice lift dude. How tall are you? Have you ever messed with oly/elevated heel shoes for squats?

6'1 1/2".....I have not
Edit: do you feel like my chucks are hurting me?


No not at all, like everyone mentioned- form looks good. Flat sole vs elevated has a lot to do with ankle flexability (like already mentioned) and also your stance width. I'm tall like you, but prefer a bit narrower stance. I squat fine with wrestling shoes and chucks, just feels a tad more comfortable with my do-wins. Like they said- its not going to make the difference and add a ton of weight to your squat. If you ever do wanna try elevated I have a pair of VS Athletics 3/4 heel lying around, size 11.5, i could shoot them over to you to try out, and just send them back after you play around with them.

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chobbs
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aspengc8 wrote:
chobbs wrote:
aspengc8 wrote:
chobbs wrote:
355.....in the past 7 weeks I've had 315 on my back 2x for a total of 2 reps. I believe in the Base Building Manuel. Strength loss on a cut say whaaaa?



nice lift dude. How tall are you? Have you ever messed with oly/elevated heel shoes for squats?

6'1 1/2".....I have not
Edit: do you feel like my chucks are hurting me?


No not at all, like everyone mentioned- form looks good. Flat sole vs elevated has a lot to do with ankle flexability (like already mentioned) and also your stance width. I'm tall like you, but prefer a bit narrower stance. I squat fine with wrestling shoes and chucks, just feels a tad more comfortable with my do-wins. Like they said- its not going to make the difference and add a ton of weight to your squat. If you ever do wanna try elevated I have a pair of VS Athletics 3/4 heel lying around, size 11.5, i could shoot them over to you to try out, and just send them back after you play around with them.

Are you serious? Lol that'd be great

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chobbs wrote:
aspengc8 wrote:
chobbs wrote:
aspengc8 wrote:
chobbs wrote:
355.....in the past 7 weeks I've had 315 on my back 2x for a total of 2 reps. I believe in the Base Building Manuel. Strength loss on a cut say whaaaa?



nice lift dude. How tall are you? Have you ever messed with oly/elevated heel shoes for squats?

6'1 1/2".....I have not
Edit: do you feel like my chucks are hurting me?


No not at all, like everyone mentioned- form looks good. Flat sole vs elevated has a lot to do with ankle flexability (like already mentioned) and also your stance width. I'm tall like you, but prefer a bit narrower stance. I squat fine with wrestling shoes and chucks, just feels a tad more comfortable with my do-wins. Like they said- its not going to make the difference and add a ton of weight to your squat. If you ever do wanna try elevated I have a pair of VS Athletics 3/4 heel lying around, size 11.5, i could shoot them over to you to try out, and just send them back after you play around with them.

Are you serious? Lol that'd be great


yeah its no problem.. size 11.5 good for you?

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chobbs
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11.5 is perfect

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chobbs
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Week 8 Day 1...I don't know if I'm going to do legs this week because I still feel like trash and my back/pelvic region still hurts. Whenever it has to stabilize itself is when the weakness really shows. Oh well screw it, it's worth it for a PR.

Bench...2 min
135x5, 155x4, 175x3, 195x2, 215x1
225x1, 3x5 with 215, 3x5 with 190, 150x18 w/ straps....all paused, I'm gradually moving my grip out to ring fingers on the ring instead of pinkies

Incline...2 min...pinkies on rings
115x25
115x14
115x11

Dips...1 min
15, 15, 12, 8, 4.....started strong, couldn't finish......once in a while this summarizes my sex life

Laterals
3x20 with 15's
-SS-
Med ball pushups
I did 1 arm ones for the first 2 sets 10 reps each then last set both ones x 5

Pushdowns
4x15
-SS-
Pull aparts
4x25

I'm not gonna lie I had my doubts with this program not really touching heavy weights just focusing on bar speed, rest periods, and work capacity but since that PR it's really got me believing. All the weights on the bench were real quick, so I'll stay here for 2 more weeks then bump the TM up 5-10 lbs.

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csulli
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chobbs wrote:
Dips...1 min
15, 15, 12, 8, 4.....started strong, couldn't finish......once in a while this summarizes my sex life

Lol, I was thinking of this joke as I was reading this, and then I saw that you preemptively made it. Well played.

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chobbs
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csulli wrote:
chobbs wrote:
Dips...1 min
15, 15, 12, 8, 4.....started strong, couldn't finish......once in a while this summarizes my sex life

Lol, I was thinking of this joke as I was reading this, and then I saw that you preemptively made it. Well played.

Great minds....

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chobbs
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Check out my new log....

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