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hypnotoad
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Join date: Apr 2006
Location: New Jersey, USA
Posts: 293

chutec wrote:
it depends on your overall aim.

if you want a lean muscular moderate physique then i would say preserve your natural lean ness.

its easier to stay lean when you are lean....if you start to get fatter your body doesnt partition the weight gain as favourably to the muscle side.

however if you want large muscle gains (20-50pounds), and have alot to gain then you are going to need to let loose. if you train hard enough you can get away with some unrestrained force feeding.

i personally have gone a bit nuts on the feeding, and even though i feel i gain fat easily....my workouts seem to be keeping me growing in the right way!


thanks for the response, im going to continue stuffing my face lol

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chutec
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Join date: Sep 2007
Location: Scotland
Posts: 624

weight 233

calipers done today.

bf - 17.66%

LBM - 191.8
fat - 41.2

im getting to the edge of my patience with the extra flab now, and i think im going past an optimal stage.

whilst i have had good gains overall on this approach over the last 4-5 months, i feel that i am now gaining fat easier due to my already high bodyfat levels.

also, considering my aim is 200 LBM i think i might put the breaks on soon to rest, recover and trim up for quality gains in the last 8 pound stretch.

also, all my clothes are starting to stretch and break , or are just not wearable.

bla blah blah, lots more lame excuses, blah.

end of the day ive put on 15 pounds of muscle in the last 4 months so im allowed to rationalise my way into controlling fat gain!

ill hold on for the rest of August and then very slowly start lowering my calories.

so it will be at least 2 months before im in a cal deficit which will give my body some time to get used to this new muscle weight.

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chutec
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Join date: Sep 2007
Location: Scotland
Posts: 624

week of rest starts now!

weight 231

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chutec
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Join date: Sep 2007
Location: Scotland
Posts: 624

weight 233

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chutec
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Join date: Sep 2007
Location: Scotland
Posts: 624

weight 235

waist 39.3

yeah im definately reaching the point at which i need to cut away the fat.

i think ive had a good run of it for the last 4-5 months!

im lowering my cal intake from 4500 to 4000 and im cleaning it up a little (e.g converting from sausages to yogurt and fruit for breakfast!)

around september the 18th ill have a new state of the art gym to go to so maybe that will mark the start of my cutting programme.

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chutec
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Join date: Sep 2007
Location: Scotland
Posts: 624

hypertrophy program final numbers:

bench 80kg 3x7
db inc bench 2x22.5 3x9
flies 8kg, 3x13

pillup 3x5 BW
db row 2x22.5 3x9
cable row 34kg 3x13

back squat 100kg 3x8
leg press 115 3x8
deads 100kg 3x8
leg curls 11.25 3x12

bb curl 32.5 3x6
hammer curl 2x11kg 3x14
incline curl 14kg 3x8

military press 45kg 3x8
close grip bench 47.5 3x9
skull crushers 14kg 3x14

side lat raises 2x6kg 3x10
reverse flies 2x4kg 3x14

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chutec
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Join date: Sep 2007
Location: Scotland
Posts: 624

bulk end stats:

235 pounds

BF 18%

LBM 192.7
fat 42.3

waist 39.5
leg 27.5
chest 45.5
flexed chest 48
bicep 15.8
flexed bicep 16.8

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