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Menno Henselmans: Tim Henriques: Could you provide a link to your article? I'd love to read it. As for the deadlift, for all the muscles you mentioned, RDL > deadlift. On a side note, I wouldn't perform the deadlift with active back extension/rounding (I assume that's what you mean with erectors as agonist?). That's extremely harsh on the spine.

Menno Henselmans: -Sigil-: Closed chain reigns supreme. No recovery concerns, just respect the microloadability principle if you want to do a lot of body weight stuff.

Menno Henselmans: Id13: It's tissue stress distribution. The rings are way easier on your joints than fixed bars. I don't recommend doing them, but if you insist, use rings.

Menno Henselmans: Achilles_Wrath: You need to compare 1RM, including body weight, and control for neural effectiveness (experience with the exercise). Doing this, I see very few people doing heavy chins (not kip-ups) without impressive biceps and lats.

Menno Henselmans: mmar455: Deadlifts would provide a valuable hormonal boost, yes, but the massive fatigue would not be worth it. You have limited recovery capacities and squats and chins are just more effective.

Tim Henriques: cont - however if the person was trying to build their quads or lats or some other muscle then they will not be so effective. The vast majority of folks using an alternate grip and chalk should be able to hold on to a deadlift with a little bit of training and straps could be used if not so I don't think the grip is too much of a limiting factor for most people.

Tim Henriques: Interesting article, I liked how you elaborated on your points. I wrote a similar themed article a while back although I used different criteria, yours was definitely thought provoking. Regarding the deadlift I think it depends on what the person's goals in terms of building mass. If the goal is to build the erectors (and since they are the agonist that is what I would expect it would be for most people), the traps, the hamstrings and the glutes I think it is tough to argue against them.

Christian Thibaudeau: @ BiP... power snatching bodyweight in good explosive form is what I consider to be the baseline of an explosive athlete

Chad Coy: Cool...I prefer that currency!

Chad Coy: What did you guys pay for your prowler?

sexyxe: Nice article. Good way to start my weekend.

backinwhite: Sorry, my phone corrected your name to that. XD

backinwhite: Mennonite, how is a RDL better for the traps than a conventional dead lift? I might not see your argument, but that claim seems a little ridiculous.

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